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Kia Rondo suggested improvements

ramblinramblin Posts: 29
1) Add slide out extensions to sun visor and get rid of the fake vinyl coated sun visor, use cloth. Even the EX's visors are cheap vinyl.
2) Offer standard factory tinting of rear and side rear windows.
3) Can car makers design a window that doesn't drip inside the car?
4) Rear slide out cup holders pose a hazard as they don't secure the cups well. Possibility exists of spilling hot liquids from top heavy cups on unsuspecting passenger's feet.
5) This may just be my personal preference, but I would prefer a straight shift from Park to drive. The offsets are just a pain.
6) Redesign the sunroof so you don't need to buy the additional shield to stop the two toned whistle that cross winds generate.
7) No KIA optional mud flaps?
8) Add daytime running lights

Don't get me wrong, I love the Rondo, but it could be better designed in a few areas.

2007 4cyl, 5 seat EX
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  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    If the car is like other Hyundais and Kias I've owned you can approximate the DRL's by leaving the lights on. They go off with the ignition (at least they do/did on my Optima and Elantra).

    DRL's are a no-win situation, people complain either way, although I see less complaints on the GM sites than I did ten years ago.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    would like to see MP3 player and connection for auxiliary player (currently not available in Canada)
    - I agree on the factory tinting
    - make the sunroof available on 5 person model
    - get rid of the ashtrays and create more storage
    - (daylight running lights are standard in Canada)
    - offer the beige exterior / interior as in the US
    - I agree on the visor extension (Santa Fe has that)
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    sorry to go off topic but I would like to create a new discussion, but can't seem to figure out how you do it (new to the site), could you help?
  • caliberchiccaliberchic Posts: 402
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  • vegasrondovegasrondo Posts: 11
    After 3 days with my 5 passenger EX with Premium Package I suggest Kia needs work on the following:
    1.Better contrast on the stereo display - larger EQ display listings. The stereo unit is a major visual disappointment.
    2.Satellite compatible stereo needed
    3.Cargo net??
    4.Sunroof wind deflector
    5.The remote transmitter on the Key Fob is a bit weak
    6.Better dealer support making options known, i.e. Cargo Cover
    7.Privacy glass even is it is optional (should be standard in the EX model)
    8.Other than the above, it is a well thought out and executed vehicle. Very enjoyable so far!

    2007 4 cyl, 5 seat EX with Premium package :)
  • taximom5taximom5 Posts: 43
    Telescoping steering wheel and better driver-side armrests!

    I love my Rondo, but I'm 5'6" with short arms (at least, short compared to some of you 6-footers!). No matter how I configure the seat and steering wheel, my elbows don't reach the armrest while I'm driving, which makes for very tiring long drives. :sick:

    Anyone have any suggestions on anything I could buy or make to alleviate this?
  • taximom5taximom5 Posts: 43
    I forgot to mention in my previous post--my kids complain that in the back seat (the second row of our 7-seater), whoever is sitting in the middle gets blasted by the air conditioner while the two in the outboard positions sweat and swelter, as does anyone in the third row.

    I know there are ducts under the two front seats, but for the life of me, I can't feel anything coming out of them. Is there a special setting to make them work, or are they not for air conditioning?
  • notinksnotinks Posts: 1
    Does anyone else have trouble with the rear shoulder belts running directly across your neck? My stepson and I are both about 5'8" and it hits us both in a horrible spot! :cry:
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    is that the second rear seat or the 3rd rear seat?
  • ramblinramblin Posts: 29
    I haven't spent any time in the back, but I think the only air outlets for AC is the vent in the rear of the console between the front seats. They have up/down, left/right, volume adjustments.

    You might be able to use the floor vent adjustments on the front selector dial to get air out of the floor vents, but the front seat occupants will roast.
  • ramblinramblin Posts: 29
    I miss my armrests from the Sedona. They weren't that comfortable, but at least the Sedona had them.

    Suggestions? I would try a stout pillow or a covered piece of firm foam between the front seats. It won't work for me, because I never go anywhere without my coffee and the pillow would be in the way all of the time.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    according to the owners manual (page 4/63) if you use the Bi-level setting your get air flow through the console ducts as well as the floor ducts under the two front seats this is in addition to the dash vents and front floor vents. Page 4/62 shows the various configurations depending on the setting.
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    In #1, ramblin takes issues with:
    2) Offer standard factory tinting of rear and side rear windows.
    7) No KIA optional mud flaps?
    8) Add daytime running lights

    I have just purchased a 2007 Rondo EX V6 Luxury 7 seater with all of the above as standard equipment. I live in Canada. I guess you can't get these in the US?
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    tinted windows are not standard in Canada, its a dealer installed option.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I think that any vehicle with 3 rows needs ceiling AC vents for the 3rd row passengers. For the second row passengers, the vents in the back of the front center console don't do much more than blast cold air on the knees of the occupants, even if you angle the vents up. They work okay in cars where you're sitting lower, but not very well on minivan/CUVs or cars with higher seats. Until there are ceiling AC vents, I won't buy either a Mazda5 or Rondo.
  • After owning my rondo for 5 mths, I am enjoying it but I would love to have the following (some of these are the same as others have suggested):

    1. improved gas mileage (like crv, matrix, etc)
    2. higher center armrest
    3. bluetooth or mp3 jack
    4. intermintent rear wiper
    5. Add slide out extension to sun visor
    6. I would prefer a straight shift from Park to drive. The offsets are just a pain.
    7. keylock on passenger side front door (I don't usually carry the keyfob with me)
    8. ventelation issues..
    - can't get fresh outside temp air from the vent (it is always heated somewhat)
    - ventalation off s/not be in middle of dial
    - rear seats need ceiling vents
    - a/c doesn't get the car really cold (only cool)
    9. a manual with a more 'hardcore' info
    (for instance, it doesn't even tell you the type of headlite bulbs used. I wanted to upgrade to bright white and when I asked why its not in the manual the dealer said this is 'dealer info' fyi: low-H7 high-9L)
    10. smaller rear roof post (ie the rear side windows s/be straight on the bottom, not angled upwards which reduces the size of the rear window and hinders vision for driver rear shoulder checks)

    comments anyone?
  • alamocityalamocity Posts: 680
    Just a couple of comments to your post, I've driven the Rondo a couple of times and found no visibility problems at all, in fact I much prefer it over others I have driven with the smaller, chopped off windows. As to a manual I have found that kiatechinfo provides a wealth of information so you might want to give that a try for the information you are looking for.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    looks like they were listening to you as the 2008 model now has an auxiliary jack in the console.

    We always want better mileage regardless of the vehicle, but with your reference to the CR-V, there is very little difference. The CR-V is rated at 28/39 CDN mpg in the FWD model and the Rondo is 26/38 both with 2.4 litre engines, of course its different on the Matrix as its a much smaller engine (1.8) and the vehicle is lighter (by 600 lbs) giving you 34/45, which really is more like competition to the Spectra 5 (2.0 litre) 32/46 or the Rio 5 at 35/50 with a 1.6 engine.

    I agree with alamocity, you couldn't ask for a better site to get detailed info on your KIA than kiatechinfo its fantastic.
  • Regarding the "always heated somewhat outside air from the vent," I've noticed the same thing--when you turn on the car, you get slightly heated air from the fresh air vent setting.

    I find that if I turn the A/C on to the highest setting for about 10 seconds, and then switch it back to the vent, that small amount of heating shuts off and I can get plain, unheated, fresh air through the vent.

    Why it works that way, I have no clue. :confuse:
  • Yeah, I've noticed that I can't get outside temperature air into the cabin, either. I notice it the most after I've been driving around for a while, then stopping for an errand, and then restarting the engine. The outside air isn't just "heated somewhat," though--in my case, it's heated a lot. I almost wilted away a few times this past summer as I turned the fan on full blast and stubbornly waited in vain for the air to become unheated. In case someone thinks that I'm a complete idiot, the temperature dial was turned to the coolest position. :)

    My solution was to turn off the fan and just rely on the air coming from the rolled down windows, or turn on the AC and leave it on. Thankfully, we had mostly a cool summer, so it wasn't a major problem.

    I'll have to try your solution, taximom5. So for about ten seconds, you have the AC on, temperature dial at the coolest position, and fan on at full tilt? Anyway, the long, cool monsoon season has started in Vancouver, so it's not like I need immediate relief.
  • I don't think you even need the fan on full as long as it's on a little bit, just long enough to feel cool air from the air conditioner. Then switch the control to fresh air vent, and it's just normal fresh air. :)
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    A suggested improvement from me, now that my wife and I have had our 2007 EX V6 Luxury for 3 months, is that the middle seat cupholders (the ones at the back of the centre console) are ridiculously low. Our 2 children cannot even come close to reaching them, and adults have a long reach too.
    As well, both our remote unlock fobs only operate from a distance of 10 ft or less. The fobs for my 1998 Escort wagon operate from about 30 ft. Maybe it's a safety issue - if you unlock from too far away, someone can get to your car before you? I dunno.
    If you install studded winter tires, like I have, then the Rondo transforms from a quiet serene ride to a very loud thrumming ride on dry pavement (it has not really snowed here yet). But I can put up with that for safety's sake. My 98 Escort is just as loud with it's winter tires, but that car is 9 yrs old and that is to be expected.
    Anyway, we love our Rondo, and at 4800 kms (about 2900 miles), we have had Zero issues with reliability or quality. Mileage continues to be about 24-25 mpg (per 4.54 liter Canadian gallon) around town and 31-32 mpg on the highway. The headlights are fantastic! The seat heaters are a bit slow to warm, but get nice and cosy once they do warm up (it's -6 degrees C here now this morning). Real nice stereo (my 80's music has never sounded so goo) and we love the 3rd row's ease of operation for occasional use. A tremendous value in a practical efficient vehicle.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    you maybe right about the rear cup holders being low, but I'm trying to think, if they weren't there where would you put them? Maybe if they reversed the vents and put them at the floor level and moved the pop-out cup holders at that level. At least its not as bad as on some vehicles we looked at where it was a fixed cup holder and stuck out into the rear floor area so that you had to strandle the unit to sit in the middle.
    That's odd about your remote locks, as they say in the manual they operate up to 30', I haven't checked it by measuring it, but I would say that is fairly accurate for the way I've used it. I've found that it even works through the solid wall on my house and unlocks it. Maybe there is some sort of sensitivity adjustment when its installed.

    I have some suggestions for KIA for the Rondo Canadian models - put back the rear side storage area light that operates through the rear door and reinstall the glove box light! Also bring back the rubber cup holder extensions and base rubber mats for the console and the elastic strap in the glove box. All of these items were dropped for the 2008 model, which we purchased, and this realy upsets me - why would they do such a idiotic thing!
    It will be interesting to see if the US 2008 models produce these dumb changes when they get them. The Canadian 2008 models have been out since late August.

    Other than that its a great vehicle, excellent build quality, hard to fault and I agree with you on the stereo, excellent sound through the six speakers and dash layout is fantastic and looks great when everything is lit up at night - looks like a flight cockpit! We also enjoy the great visibility and ease of getting in and out.

    The only issue I've had was one of the heated rear window strands did not work but has been repaired and now works great. My local dealer has been excellent so far.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    forgot to add in my previous message:
    I found the heated seats work very fast and can feel it within 1 km from turning it on. Great on those cold mornings before the car has a chance to warm up.
  • http://kiaplace.com/index.php?cPath=25&osCsid=b9bcc1f9f1b55ddc6e060fa0e92ebaaf

    I found that this site has mud flaps, cargo net, cargo cover, sunroof wind deflector and many more items. you may want to try looking there. Thanks
  • cmhj2000cmhj2000 Posts: 191
    Overall I like the Rondo and might buy an 08 when they hit the lots.

    However, I do not care for the configuration of the front seat head rests. Did take one from the rear and try it on the drivers seat, which was oK.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    1 Sounds like good idea.
    2 Outlaw all dark tinting in everything. I'm tired of not being able to see idiot in other vehicle. Also make law so driver of car can see through any vehicle to there are no blind spots.
    3 Good question.
    4 Did not know that.
    5 How often are you shifting?
    6 Sun roof is a waste.Especially if you want privacy from State Troopers flying overhead.
    7 Find some if you need them.
    8 Just leave switch on and let key control, but then need adjustment to brighten displays during daytime.
    And more of mine.
    9 Fix those headrests in front!
    10 Larger diameter steering wheel with some padding and less road feel!
    11 Gas milage sucks! Town Car gets way better on highway.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Adding to previous post.
    11 Some good arm rests.
    12 A jack for MP3 or tape or whatever.
    13 Camber and Caster adjustments so vehicle can be properly aligned.
    14 (Maybe an issue with mine) Get rid of full time engine braking in Drive, which hurts gas milage.
    15 (Maybe an issue with mine) Could be a diverter problem but in selected positions where there should be no air from dash vents I get it. Only way to stop is close vents.
    16. Handling and ride sucks.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Don't come to Georgia with it. Any tinting other than factory installed will get you a ticket. It don't matter where you are from.
  • I didn't see anyone ask for this but I would like a button on the driver's door right next to the one to open the gas tank to pop open the rear hatch. Also make rear hatch with "pumps" strong enough to lift hatch on its own.
    Other than that I can't think of anything else that I would change. I love my Rondo and I have been having it since April and have 12500 miles with no reliability problems.
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