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Kia Rondo suggested improvements



  • I don't think you even need the fan on full as long as it's on a little bit, just long enough to feel cool air from the air conditioner. Then switch the control to fresh air vent, and it's just normal fresh air. :)
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    A suggested improvement from me, now that my wife and I have had our 2007 EX V6 Luxury for 3 months, is that the middle seat cupholders (the ones at the back of the centre console) are ridiculously low. Our 2 children cannot even come close to reaching them, and adults have a long reach too.
    As well, both our remote unlock fobs only operate from a distance of 10 ft or less. The fobs for my 1998 Escort wagon operate from about 30 ft. Maybe it's a safety issue - if you unlock from too far away, someone can get to your car before you? I dunno.
    If you install studded winter tires, like I have, then the Rondo transforms from a quiet serene ride to a very loud thrumming ride on dry pavement (it has not really snowed here yet). But I can put up with that for safety's sake. My 98 Escort is just as loud with it's winter tires, but that car is 9 yrs old and that is to be expected.
    Anyway, we love our Rondo, and at 4800 kms (about 2900 miles), we have had Zero issues with reliability or quality. Mileage continues to be about 24-25 mpg (per 4.54 liter Canadian gallon) around town and 31-32 mpg on the highway. The headlights are fantastic! The seat heaters are a bit slow to warm, but get nice and cosy once they do warm up (it's -6 degrees C here now this morning). Real nice stereo (my 80's music has never sounded so goo) and we love the 3rd row's ease of operation for occasional use. A tremendous value in a practical efficient vehicle.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    you maybe right about the rear cup holders being low, but I'm trying to think, if they weren't there where would you put them? Maybe if they reversed the vents and put them at the floor level and moved the pop-out cup holders at that level. At least its not as bad as on some vehicles we looked at where it was a fixed cup holder and stuck out into the rear floor area so that you had to strandle the unit to sit in the middle.
    That's odd about your remote locks, as they say in the manual they operate up to 30', I haven't checked it by measuring it, but I would say that is fairly accurate for the way I've used it. I've found that it even works through the solid wall on my house and unlocks it. Maybe there is some sort of sensitivity adjustment when its installed.

    I have some suggestions for KIA for the Rondo Canadian models - put back the rear side storage area light that operates through the rear door and reinstall the glove box light! Also bring back the rubber cup holder extensions and base rubber mats for the console and the elastic strap in the glove box. All of these items were dropped for the 2008 model, which we purchased, and this realy upsets me - why would they do such a idiotic thing!
    It will be interesting to see if the US 2008 models produce these dumb changes when they get them. The Canadian 2008 models have been out since late August.

    Other than that its a great vehicle, excellent build quality, hard to fault and I agree with you on the stereo, excellent sound through the six speakers and dash layout is fantastic and looks great when everything is lit up at night - looks like a flight cockpit! We also enjoy the great visibility and ease of getting in and out.

    The only issue I've had was one of the heated rear window strands did not work but has been repaired and now works great. My local dealer has been excellent so far.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    forgot to add in my previous message:
    I found the heated seats work very fast and can feel it within 1 km from turning it on. Great on those cold mornings before the car has a chance to warm up.

    I found that this site has mud flaps, cargo net, cargo cover, sunroof wind deflector and many more items. you may want to try looking there. Thanks
  • cmhj2000cmhj2000 Posts: 179
    Overall I like the Rondo and might buy an 08 when they hit the lots.

    However, I do not care for the configuration of the front seat head rests. Did take one from the rear and try it on the drivers seat, which was oK.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    1 Sounds like good idea.
    2 Outlaw all dark tinting in everything. I'm tired of not being able to see idiot in other vehicle. Also make law so driver of car can see through any vehicle to there are no blind spots.
    3 Good question.
    4 Did not know that.
    5 How often are you shifting?
    6 Sun roof is a waste.Especially if you want privacy from State Troopers flying overhead.
    7 Find some if you need them.
    8 Just leave switch on and let key control, but then need adjustment to brighten displays during daytime.
    And more of mine.
    9 Fix those headrests in front!
    10 Larger diameter steering wheel with some padding and less road feel!
    11 Gas milage sucks! Town Car gets way better on highway.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Adding to previous post.
    11 Some good arm rests.
    12 A jack for MP3 or tape or whatever.
    13 Camber and Caster adjustments so vehicle can be properly aligned.
    14 (Maybe an issue with mine) Get rid of full time engine braking in Drive, which hurts gas milage.
    15 (Maybe an issue with mine) Could be a diverter problem but in selected positions where there should be no air from dash vents I get it. Only way to stop is close vents.
    16. Handling and ride sucks.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Don't come to Georgia with it. Any tinting other than factory installed will get you a ticket. It don't matter where you are from.
  • I didn't see anyone ask for this but I would like a button on the driver's door right next to the one to open the gas tank to pop open the rear hatch. Also make rear hatch with "pumps" strong enough to lift hatch on its own.
    Other than that I can't think of anything else that I would change. I love my Rondo and I have been having it since April and have 12500 miles with no reliability problems.
  • When I lived in Quebec I had studded tires on my 67 Plymouth Valiant. Now I live in Ontario (since 1979) where studded tires are not allowed. I think you can still use studded tires in Quebec and Northern Territories; just from Oct 15 to Apr 15.
  • I totally agree that an inside button to "pop" the back hatch is really needed, and that the location of the rear cup holders on the console are too low for most people. I'd also like to see some more padding on the the (optional) third row; and better fabric on the seats that are more stain resistant. I'd also like to see another vent or two in the back - maybe on the ceiling blowing down? It seems too easy to block the vent on the center console, and nothing reaches the optional third row as it's now set up. And much better mpg ... we got 18 mpg city this winter, and on a recent highway trip got 25.5 mpg ...
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    1. add cargo area light, or at least turn on the rear dome light when the hatch is opened.

    2. make privacy glass standard or include the cargo area cover.

    3. add programmable automatic arm (security alarm) after ignition off and all doors closed, and programmable door locking when shifter is in "D".

  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    1. My wife's has switch that you can set accordingly.
    2. Cargo cover yes. Ban all privacy glass because it is a safety hazard.
    3. There is some programming available, but not sure what options are there. The first part is bad idea. Too many would lock keys inside, especially women leaving purse and keys inside. With manual locking, you might be forced to think about key before proceeding. If using remote from outside, not a problem. Maybe when external fingerprint keypad is available.
    Personally, I would like the option of the door relocking automatically upon entry (detects weight on seat). And not automatically unlocking when put in park. Trouble can come via opportunity.
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    new 6 speed tranny.

  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    From description and cure, it sounds like you are dealing with residual heat built up in the system while parked, and/or air being heated by the external area that got hot in the sun as well.
    If it gets warmer as you drive and coolant heats up, then you have a leaking or not fully closing diverter door allowing air across the heater core to enter. Older high end vehicles had a valve in the heater hose that stopped the heating of the core totally. I had one vehicle without that valve, no A/C, and the door leaked some of that hot air most of the time. I had considered installing a valve of some sort just to stop heating the heater core.
    Good luck.
  • tsm280ztsm280z Posts: 29
    Anything that would improve gas mileage!
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116
    Is your Rondo experiencing poor fuel economy? Our prior 2007 EX V6 regularly saw 33 mpg Imperial (about 30 mpg US) on the highway at 110 km/hr (65-70 mph) with four people and luggage, and about 24-25 around town. We now have a 2011 EX V6 and so far it seems to be achieving the same numbers, though it only has about 1500 miles on it so far. Actually, on my first highway trip when the Rondo was brand new (ie. less than 100 miles on the odo), I was by myself and saw as high as 36 mpg at 60 mph. That trip added 400 miles to the car.
  • tsm280ztsm280z Posts: 29
    Never got what I would call good fuel economy. At least not what the Rondo was advertised as getting. I have a 2007 EX V6. Right from the beginning I was getting in the mid teens city & upper teens/low 20's hwy.
    I'm not a hyper-miler but I try to take it easy. I put in a K&N air filter, synthetic oil, etc., etc. It wasn't until about 9,000 miles that I saw an improvement. Now get upper teens city & mid twenties hwy. Most of my driving is city. I guess the car's computer adapts to one's particular driving habits.
    Been on this post for a few years now and noticed other owners situations vary widely. :cry:
  • bgwbgw Posts: 116

    I always found that our trip computer was optimistic. I kept my own log that I calculated myself, and the computer was usually off by .2 to .3 litres/100km (not much really, maybe 1/2 mpg?).
    Our 2007 V6 was never hyper-miled, and 33 mpg Imperial was a number that we repeatedly obtained on the highway. If had I slowed to the speed limit, then I would likely have gotten more. As for around town, I admit that we live in a small town (10,000) so it can't really be considered urban.
    I never changed the air filter (only had to clean it once) and used normal engine oil. I did keep all tires 2 psi above the door jamb rating, since I find that all my cars respond better to steering input that way. 2psi isn't much, not enough to firm up the ride to an uncomfortable level.
    I wonder if you had the CPU reflashed, if that would affect your low mpg's? It did wonders for my 2002 PT Cruiser, which had a number of driveability problems until the CPU was reflashed (cost me about $60) at the dealer. It certainly increased the car's fuel economy.
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