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Acura TL 2009



  • cebtebcebteb Posts: 138
    While I've liked the TL for the past few years, my wife was luke-warm to its appearance. Now she is in love with the new TL's look and I'm happy about that.

    At the Denver Auto Show in April, there were lines to get into the two TLs they had on display and the lines consisted of both men and women. I seen posts about similar long lines for the TL at auto shows elsewhere in the U.S. I think if the economy wasn't in the tank, the TLs would be flying off the showroom floor at MSRP.

    I understand that some fans of the earlier TL's look or euro-styling aren't too thrilled with the new TL's styling, but that is a personal choice. We purchased the a Chysler 300M in its first year and still think it is one of the more attractive cars of recent times. We were appalled at the styling of the Chrysler 300C that replaced it and couldn't see how anyone could like that look. Well, Chrysler has sold a lot of those 300C "hoodlum wagons" to somebody, so bold styling usually finds a niche of followers and detractors. To each his/her own. At least now the TL no longer looks like a high priced Honda Accord.
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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    At least now the TL no longer looks like a high priced Honda Accord.

    Cannot see any resemblance of 04-08 gen TL to any Accord.
  • billyperks2billyperks2 Posts: 378
    Built on the same FWD platform.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,487
    Interesting, I feel exactly the same: I purchased a '99 300M which I still consider one handsome vehicle. In '05, I traded for an '05 TL which I still find to be one of the best designs on the road.

    But, the 300C and the new TL? Not my cup of tea at all. The 300C somewhat grew on me (familiarity breeds acceptance?) but the current TL, most notably the horrid beak, still leaves me appreciating my TL so much more.

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    Built on the same FWD platform.

    Can't "See" any resemblance.
  • ChasboyChasboy Posts: 186
    In the history of automotive brands, new models are frequently based on a platform that already exists. That includes Lexus, Infinity and Acura (also Edsel) . In the beginning, the resemblence was very visible in certain cases, in others, it was more a tweaking of the chassis/engine, and a different body. Over the years, now that they are well established as independent brands, these brands have been able to broaden the separation gap that exists between them and the parent company. To me, the fact that the Lexus ES 350 does not resemble the Camry as much as it once did is a plus. If the TL, as far as my wife and I are concerned, had not changed the design and increased in size and luxury, we would not have purchased this wonderful car.
  • cebtebcebteb Posts: 138
    The non-Sport TLs, to me at least, look like just another trim level for the Accord. When I've rolled up on them from behind in another lane, I've had to check the badging to verify that it wasn't an Accord. Then again, I'm not an Accord fancier, so I don't have its design details down pat in my memory. My point is that the non-sport TLs just weren't different enough to stand out from the lesser base automobile. The new TLs, OTOH, look like a whole different car from any Honda, inside and out. I say again that, based on the interest levels in the new TLs that I've witnessed, I think they would be flying out the door at MSRP if the economy wasn't in the tank.
  • Are the new TLs or Acuras in general set with a slight pull to the right? Not torque steer, but general alignment? Test drove a few that seem to drift right somewhat significantly.
  • draz2draz2 Posts: 50
    I've had mine for close to three months now and it tracks straight ahead. No misallignment whatsoever and no torque steer.
  • ChasboyChasboy Posts: 186
    Same with me. Its like it's on rails. Point it, and it goes there.
  • mikey38mikey38 Posts: 141
    probably crowned roads
  • go_mdx1go_mdx1 Posts: 135
    While I'm not a big fan of the new TL for multiple reason, I do have to give it some "props" for scoring very high 4.5 out of 5 stars in the JD Power's Initial Quality survey.

    Also, my local dealer has tons of 09 TLs as loaner cars. I look at these cars to see how the "wear and tear" has been progressing. They seem to be holding up well. I've not seen any problems with the front grill. Only time will tell if the leather upholstery will hold up (as has been a problem in the previous generation TLs).
  • cebtebcebteb Posts: 138
    Wow, nothing for over a week on this thread. Don't any owners of the 2009 TL have anything of interest, good or bad, to say about their new cars? Any chronic problems or emergent issues that potential buyers should know about?
  • dap2006dap2006 Posts: 68
    Not the response you're looking for but on a related note, I leased a 2008 TL-S just over a year ago - I had a 2006 TL before that. I'm loving my TL-S and after seeing a few of the 2009's on the road I have Zero buyer's remorse. Longer by 6" and with that god-awful beak I'm just hoping Acura comes to their senses and fixes this thing. I have just under 2 years left on my lease and I'd like to stick with Acura but if my lease ended today I'd be in a Beemer or Lexus tomorrow for sure... (or maybe the MDX??)
  • rickpoolerickpoole Posts: 27
    I've had 2009 TLs three times as loaner cars now and here is my take compared to my 2007 TL w/Nav

    1. 2009's Steering has no feel and is not speed sensitive, too light and sensitive at highway speeds.
    2. All three had rattles; the first two were similar to my 2007 TL, which is still proving hard to get rid of all rattles, but the one I have now has at least 6 rattles and has only 6K miles.
    3. When opening or closing the doors it reminds me of the old cheap Datsun cars decades ago. Don't know if they removed insulation or if the metal is just that thin. No where close to what I expected of a near $40K car and not even close to how solid my 2007 sounds.
    4. Mileage seems slightly worse than 2007 even though ratings are supposed to be much more accurate then the 2007 were (both are rated at 18 city). But, in all fairness I'm not convinced any of the three were filled with premium, probably filled with regular, and I have not had one long enough to empty the tank and fill it with 93 octane.
    5. New interior features and layout is improved, Nav control is very easy to use, nav is more accurate and responsive than 2007's.
    6. Ride is quieter than 2007's and it soaks up bumps better.

    I asked some people who rode with me in each of the three 2009s what they thought of it compared to my 2007 and surprisingly almost all said they thought my 2007 was a better looking and better built car. I figured the results would be fairly even between the two.
  • cebtebcebteb Posts: 138
    When it comes to an automobile's styling, it is often difficult to accept radical change from what you currently have and love. We experienced the same disconnect with the Chrysler 300. We bought a 300M in its first year and we and many believed it was one of the most attractive sedans in recent times. When shined up, it still gets lots of looks in the parking lot. When the totally revised design of the 300C came out we lost our collective lunch. We thought it looked horrid, some gangster car out of the early 50s. We expected it to be a big flop for Chrysler, but it was a big sales success in its first several years. We were wedded to the prior styling in taste and in ownership as you are to the TL-S. When that happens, one has great difficulty in accepting radical change.

    While I thought the earlier TL-S was attractive, my wife found it merely acceptable and I couldn't really get her interested in it as a must have replacement for our 300M. The non-sport TLs were nondescript, just some cosmetic differences from a Honda Accord. Now the new TLs have really caught our attention and my wife has locked in on the TL as "the" replacement for the 300M. We noticed the long lines at the auto show last April to sit in either of the TLs on display. Prior posts in this and other TL threads on this forum indicate similar response to the TL in other auto shows around the country.

    Are they selling like hot-cakes? No, but what sedan is in this broken economy. I think it is Acura's misfortune and our luck that these drastically changed TLs can be bargained for at the dealer rather than getting the old, MSRP or walk attitude from the luxury car sales people. I guess if I owned an earlier TL and loved it I too would be disappointed that Acura had abandoned that styling, but the only certainties are death, taxes, and change.
  • cebtebcebteb Posts: 138
    All reviewers have commented on the steering and it seems to be a love or hate relationship, no middle ground. Since it is the first year of this new technology in steering, it will be interesting to see if Acura changes it in any way for 2010 or is this just something we all will have to get used to, like anti-lock brakes.

    Slamming the doors on the two TLs at the Denver auto show, I thought they had a had a very sound feel and sound. Perhaps the loaners you drove have been treated like rental cars and are showing the affects of that treatment.

    Numerous comments on gas mileage with the new TLs is a concern; although CR didn't bust the new TL on gas mileage and they are usually sticklers for stuff like that.

    If I were you friend and I rode in your car and with you in one of the loaners and you asked me what I thought of the new TL compared to your TL, what do you think I would tell you? Your car is a junker and this new TL is really great? I don't think so.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    Hi, I drive a 2008 base TL and had similar problems with the car pulling slightly to the right; also I was having a loud/lousy ride from the tires and terrible vibrations/shimmy in the steering wheel and seats of the vehicle doing anything faster than 50mph. After having a front-end alignment and the tires balanced I was still having the formetioned problems; turns out the problem was with the OEM Bridgestone Turanza's EL400; these are the worst tires I have ever had on a car; traction and handling in even wet weather was terrible; finally had to call Bridgestone and worked out a deal to have the top of the line Bridgestone serenity's put on the car - once that was done all the problems went away; I think Acura still puts these crappy Turanza's EL400s on the 2009 TL's without the nav system; this could be an explanation to your problem; avoid OEM Bridgestone Turanza's EL400 at all cost; the OEM Michelin Pilot's are the better of two evils!!
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