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Nissan Murano CVT Transmission

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  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    edited May 2011
    I really think that the techs at the dealerships are flying blind.

    My dad used to own Ford & Chrysler dealerships and they receive regular technical bulletins for each model that they support.

    The bulletins are not always accurate and the dealerships have no other means to analyze problems today. They rely on the diagnostic tools and systems which can be very convoluted; esp. the Murano - that has so many electronic modules to deal with.

    Nissan's products, I discovered, are poorly emgineered & poorly manufactured.

    Even if they find the root cause, which is probably defective engineering, you are still stuck with a car that is a ticking time bomb.

    I honostly recommend selling the car and moving to a vehicle that has a better reliability history.

    I kept wanting to believe that my Murano would be good to go after the last expensive repair. Then six months would go by and another $2000 issue would come up.

    Seriously, cut your losses and get out while you can.

    At some point we all encounter a vehicle like the Murano. There is no shame. The smart thing is to walk away.

    If you want to see folks with real heart burn, read the problems on the Nissan Rogue. Another bucket of bolts.
  • laudielaudie Posts: 1
    I am so mad..I hate Nissan. I have a 2006 Murano at 120,000 miles. My transmission is gone. I called the dealership on Monday May 2nd and they couldn't get me in until May 7th. By this time, the milage was up to 121,226. After countless called to Nissan's regional team, they finaly said that they will NOT cover it. I am so p***'d off. Doesn't anyone have any advice for me? :sick:
  • I had to replace the transmission on my 2003 Murano at just over 100,000 miles to the tune of $5K. Then the transmission the dealer put in failed immediately and they replaced it again, but it was only guaranteed for 20,000 miles, so I traded the Murano in for a Toyota. Then, a few months later, I get a letter from Nissan and forms to fill out that added up to proving that I did own the car at the time the transmission failed, that I paid for a new transmission, and next thing I knew they reimbursed me for everything. So, in brief, my advice would be to go to Nissan directly, though you may want to talk to your dealer. Obviously, the only way Nissan knew to contact me was because they got information from the dealer.
  • ihatenissanihatenissan Posts: 10
    Yes we did the same thing, traded the Murano in on a Toyota.

    Is there a facebook page about the Murano and the issues? I'm not that facebook savy but perhaps if we all join and I'm sure there are even more consumers out there screwed by this transfer/CVT issue.

    Over a year later, I'm still bitter about spending $4,500 on a transfer case, when it is obvious it was an issue that should have been handled as a recall!
  • heather31heather31 Posts: 1
    Hi all, I'm new and came to this board looking because I have 2010 Murano with 11,000 miles. The transfer case went bad and I just had it replaced, I have still smelled the burning oil smell and had it rechecked again today. I was told it was fine and there is nothing wrong with the car. I've been reading all these problems with the transfer case and transmission. Can you tell me if the problems still continue once the part has been replaced?

    I have the oportunity to trade this vehicle without a loss and I'm not sure what to do, if this is going to be an ongoing problem then I'm going to trade the car. If not then I'll keep it. Any help or advise would be greatly appreciated.....Thanks!!!
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    This has been a problem with the Murano and if you can get out without a loss I would jump at the chance. As long as it not with another CVT transmission.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    These cars are garbage.

    A class action law suite needs to be initiated!

    I cannot believe that folks continue to buy a car model that is riddled with such problems.

    Nissan is the most pathetic auto manufacturer ever.

    Get rid of this car as fast as you can! Read all of my threads.

    I spent in excess of $12,500 in repairs including a replaced CVT & case.

    Whatever you do, DONOT buy another Nissan! Trade for anything else.

    :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    That is what you all get for buying the 1st Gen CVT, which was a new mass market technology for Nissan. That is why I waited several years to they came out with the 2nd Gen version which is more refined and has much less problems!

    Never buy a 1st year model or any model from any manufactures when they are using a new technology that they never had before.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    edited May 2011
    Smarty666,

    Sorry. Your words & view on this issue are not at all acceptable.

    Many first year vehicles are highly successfull, and DONOT display the problems the Muranos are exihibiting.

    If you pay attention to the threads here, one would observe that you are now seeing the the same problems with the CVT in later models as well.

    I checked, AND, the 2009 - 2011 Muranos are still using the same CVT tranny case and same basic transmission design. SO, Nissan has decided to continue to perpetuate the problem by buidling the same garbage that they have.

    The intelligent observer would note that Nissan is making a ton of money off of suckers who think that a $6000 transmission replacment is a good investment.

    The Murano is crap from 2003 - infinity. It is that simple.

    The safest bet for all consumers is to avoid Nissan alltogether!

    :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    The problem is Mike, your generalizing and trying to lump all of Nissan into this category.

    Myself and thousands upon thousands of others have had no issues with the CVT thus far, some people with just as many miles as you and others. In almost 23k miles on my Maxima, I have had not one issue with the CVT. It has performed smoothly, no jerking motions, no hesitations, problems accelerating, and excellent fuel economy.

    The problem is, you only give one side of the story. The 2nd Gen CVT that was introduced starting in 2009 has had far less issues and complaints. A sampling of the few dozen to maybe few hundred of people who had CVT issues on here is only a small % of the total vehicles Nissan has sold since introducing the CVT.

    Some of us come on here just to balance out all the negativity put things into perspective and when you go posting on multiple discussions that Nissan's are trash and trying to throw in scare tactics to bad mouth an entire brand and tell people not to buy them, that does not go to help make yourself give any more credibility to your situation. I feel bad for you and what you had to go through, but its better to try to keep the analysis balanced. There are plenty of us who have had no issues with the CVT along with tens of thousands of others.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    edited May 2011
    Bro,

    Thank you for your diplomatically stated criticisms.

    I am sorry, but I am baffled that you don't get it!

    Telling someone that they should not have bought a first generation car after it displays horrendous problems is an insult (crickets chirping).

    And, as a matter of fact, the 2nd gen CVT's are also showing the same problems as before. As the next few years unfold and the miles rack up you will see that I am right.

    BTW, the Maxima has a completely different throttle system than the Murano. This is a contributing factor.

    Enough said. :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • unhappy34unhappy34 Posts: 8
    Thank you for posting the positive side of owning a Nissan. However, those of us like Mike who have had continual expensive problems with their Muranos with no support from Nissan as a company, will never buy another Nissan or could not recommend doing so to anyone. My life got much better once I made the decision to get rid of my 2003 Murano and stop the financial drain and frustration with those who could never seem to fix the car right. We are all entitled to our opinions and our opinions come from our personal experience with our Nissans.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    edited May 2011
    https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

    Fellow Beleagured "Murano Owners",

    Please use the above link for the NTSB to file a complaint. It only takes a few minutes. You will need your VIN info., etc.

    Currently, there are mounting compaints about the safety hazzards of the Nissan Murano CVT's. I have read through many of the reports.

    There seems to be a shell game going on with Nissan Customer Service and the dealers.

    Deny, delay, deny.........

    If you are experiencing problems with your CVT, the dealer will advise that it is part "X" (say e.g. - a "TCM, or seals or the case; or the solenoid valve body") - which is not covered under any warranty. They will replace the part(s) at your cost; this will help you limp along for a few more months until you experience total faliure (like I did).

    This is being done to a lot of people who have cars that are about to run out of warranty. When you cross the magic (120,000 miles) you're SCREWED!

    The average cost to replace is ~$6000. I read of a story where a Murano owner replaced his CVT twice in 14 months ($12K).

    I am not one for conspiracy theories; but, this one smells bad.

    Please file your complaints (any topic); even if you got rid of the car.

    I am looking for a class action link and will post when it surfaces.

    Nissan: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    Thanks for the back up.

    You said it well.

    See my post above about the NTSB.

    Thx.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    Smarty666,

    I guess you missed this one! This is the 2nd gen. CVT (2010)!

    #578 of 587 Re: Happy at last sold my Murano [ihatenissan] by heather31 May 19, 2011 (6:22 pm)
    Replying to: ihatenissan (May 19, 2011 4:25 pm)

    Hi all, I'm new and came to this board looking because I have 2010 Murano with 11,000 miles. The transfer case went bad and I just had it replaced, I have still smelled the burning oil smell and had it rechecked again today. I was told it was fine and there is nothing wrong with the car. I've been reading all these problems with the transfer case and transmission. Can you tell me if the problems still continue once the part has been replaced?

    I have the oportunity to trade this vehicle without a loss and I'm not sure what to do, if this is going to be an ongoing problem then I'm going to trade the car. If not then I'll keep it. Any help or advise would be greatly appreciated.....Thanks!!!
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I didn't miss anything Mike, nor did I ever say the problem does not exist. I feel bad you all went through this and you should have but anyone that bought a 2003-2005 Murano was just asking for trouble when you had a brand new vehicle from Nissan, paired with a brand new mass market transmission. Why do you think I waited over 8 years to get a Nissan. I wanted to give them time to work out the CVT kinks before getting one because I knew these facts and did not want to take a chance. I am just saying, that quoting a few dozen Murano owners on here does not show proof of massive widespread issues, especially with the 2nd Gen Murano. I mean Nissan sells several thousands of them per month, it gets wide positive reviews, yet quoting a few dozen disgruntled (and rightly so) Murano owners is not a decent sample size of the car's total population on the road. I'm just putting things into perspective.

    All I was doing was adding some of the positive experience people with the Nissan CVT have had to balance out the negative, that is all. My best advice is to get test drive it and see if it is for you. If not, go some where else, simple as that. If I went through what you and others did, I wouldn't get a Nissan either, but luckily I did not :P
  • bkendbkend Posts: 3
    Update!!!!! See message 571. 51 miles after having the IPDM replaced the car started having the same symptoms. It feels like it shifts down to 1st gear and sometimes the engine races with high RPM's. The dealership checked it out again and told me that they don't feel any shifting problems. Last night I was driving home and the car downshifted and stuck in 1st gear. I immediately drove it 35 miles to the dealership at 40mph (max speed in 1st gear without blowing up the car) and parked it in front of the service dept. I tried restarting the car and it would not even turn over. The exact same thing that happened 3 weeks earlier that cost me an $85 tow and $825 for an IPDM. They couldnt tell me anything today. Because they don't have a clue. I am screwed on this car and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.
  • jurnijurni Posts: 7
    Update:03 Murano is finally bye bye. After those same issues 2x and almost $5600 later I finally got somebody to take it off my hands. I purchased a Toyota 4runner. Never another Nissan. :mad:
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    I know some are tired of me saying this; and, I don't wish to spam this thread; but, I would see if the dealer will take the car off your hands.

    Look for something else in the their used car selection.

    A Toyota or Honda would be a safe and better vehicle.

    Sorry for your pain. My concern for you is what I went through. They kept replacing components in & around my CVT that were nothing but patches.

    It prolonged the drama and eventually I could no longer afford to keep Nissan in the lap of luxery. :sick:
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    You are FREE, FREE, FREE at last!

    Congratulations! This was a brave and smart decision! ;)
  • sage4444sage4444 Posts: 2
    I have a 2010 Nissan Murano, and it's now been at the dealership for over a week waiting to have the transfer case leak fixed. A few months prior, I had a power steering leak (this is a brand new car purchased 1 yr ago - 21,000 miles on it). Very dissapointed about these two problems happening on such a new car. I owned at Toyota Camry Solara for almost 6 yrs, and the only problem I had was they needed to reprogram the moonroof a couple of times.
  • mew012mew012 Posts: 2
    I too have a 2010 Murano. I had the leak and smell of oil from the day I drove it off the lot. I kept complaining and they told me it was an axel seal. Did not help. Then they tried to tell me that the dip stick was not in tightly enough. Finally I had enough and said FIX it. They said it was the transfer case. The had it fixed in a few days. Lucky for me because i drove to the Florida keys from long Island 2 days later. I have ahd no problems since the fix. I did complain to Nissan USA and they gave me a $200 service credit, which is good for parts or oil changes etc. When they send you a survey, tell them how unhappy you are. I drove Subaru's for over 12 years and as soon as my lease is up i am going back to subaru!
    Good luck!
  • sage4444sage4444 Posts: 2
    Thanks for the reply! It's interesting to read everyone's issues with the transfer case with the Murano. I will definitely complete the survey as you suggested! I did buy the extended warranty on this car (and don't usually buy those), and glad I did (I guess I'll have to read all the fine print as to what is covered in case of problems down the road). Wow! NY to FL - long drive!! I live in MA and drove to FL once...never again..LOL. Glad to hear your car is doing well now. :)
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    Be careful. There are a lot of exclusions in the Murano CVT warranties.

    The statistics seem to be climbing now in the 2009 & 2010 Muranos.

    The CVT's continue to display the same problem as in earlier models.

    Be warry! These cars are very problematic. :lemon:
  • jayhawk70jayhawk70 Posts: 56
    mikesmurano claims: "Be warry! These cars are very problematic."

    Not true.

    Folks, mikesmurano has been spamming this forum for many months now with false claims about the Murano because of his rare bad experience. HIS car may have been problematic, and a very few other folks may have, but both Consumer Reports and JD Powers say otherwise, giving the Murano high marks for reliability and quality. For example, you can see JD Powers very high ranking for drivetrain reliability (which is mikesmurano's particular complaint), as can be seen here:

    http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Nissan_Murano/2010/Reliability/-

    If your looking for real reliability info on a vehicle, Consumer Reports, JD Powers and others are far better sources than this forum!

    Of course, if you don't like what Consumer Reports or JD Powers are saying about the drivetrain relibility, then I guess my experience is just as good a Mikes. Our Murano is 30 months old, has 55,000 miles on it with completely trouble free operation. It is an AWD (with the transfer case) and it made numerous trips through mountains and deserts (got the AWD for the ski trips in the Sierras - and needed it for the snow storms at Tahoe on Memorial Day weekend!) We also have towed trailers full of furniture the length of California (moving relatives) . It still works smoothly and trouble free. Based on many many other reviews and posts on other forums, that is the common trend for Murano owners.

    I do think Nissan needs to upgrade their dealer service departments. (Who are all dirty lying part swappers. But that's how I feel about every manufacturer's service departments...:-)

    If your looking for info on Muranos, I recommend a google search for "Murano forum" to find other forums that have folks with better answers to your questions than you are likely to find at a forum that has been co-opted by posters with a vendetta.

    --jayhawk
  • coconinococonino Posts: 3
    Jayhawk, there are clearly a lot of other people posting to this forum who have Murano problems (we like to say Morono here at my house), and not just the early years, either. I looked at Consumer Reports and many other "reviews" before I bought mine, a 2004 with 16K miles on it at the time. They were nearly worthless and did not warn me of the problems I and others would eventually face. I've learned my lesson; I trust forums and NTSB complaints to get a better picture of how a car is performing and what the issues may be. Good luck with your car.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    edited June 2011
    Wise words.

    I have been trying to help my neighbor resolve his CVT problems with his 2009 "Morono". He is experiencing the leaking CVT case issue.

    He is also experiencing the symptom of the car creeping then speeding up.

    These are the same issues I had with my 2003.

    The dealer is acting as though they do not know what the problem is. No codes. His car only has ~20,000 miles.

    So much for fixing the problem in the "new" 2009 models!

    Thanks.
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    edited June 2011
    Your right; I guess I'm wrong. My sincere apologies!
    However, you may want to read through some of these issues before finally concluding.

    http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/66-problems/

    http://www.nissanmurano.org/forums/66-problems/6716-current-murano-tsbs-listed-n- - - issan-website.html

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=3okIttbQuVc

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Nissan-Refuses-to-Recall-Murano-Despite-Major-CVT-Proble- - - ms

    http://nissan.pissedconsumer.com/murano-visor-and-stereo-problems-20090415147624- - - .html

    http://forums.nicoclub.com/murano-forum.html

    Interestingly, the CVT and other problems are consistent throughout. They transcend the year and particular model.

    Some of the links are even from Murano enthusiast web sites. The second one I listed has links to all of the NTSB files/cases that are active.

    This should be helpful information to all readers Stever - not spamming.

    Sincere regards. :)
  • kcjim888kcjim888 Posts: 6
    Hi to all.
    I have looked at the info that mikesmurano provided. It is possible I looked at the wrong links - especially as I copied the link from youtube to another tab.

    First two links at nissanmurano.org, of which I am a member - I endorse it fully to other Murano owners. There was a poll of "failed CVT" by mileage. There were 145 responses of failure across all model years for that poll population.

    The number of posters on the failed CVT issues, including the transfer case issues was out numbered by the ones on how to lower suspension, add headers and higher performance intake parts, and improve the effectiveness of the airconditioning systems (excellent post BTW for those in warmer climates).

    The youtube link was only an ad for repairmanuals in the UK. There was no mention of CVT issues in the 57 sec commercial - they may have changed the link on mikemurano after he posted it - or I may have cut and pasted something wrong. They did have a video of a Murano rollover to the right at the youtube site.

    The next link was a post by a prospective Murano owner (he loves Subarus) but he decided not to buy one due to the things he saw on the internet regarding the "CVT problems" so to be fair, as he was not a "expert source" but was only repeating others comments I think this one is moot as evidence.

    The next link was a complaint (pissedoffcustomer site) about sun visors... not CVT so I do not see the relevance to the CVT discussion.

    The last link was not directly linked to a CVT thread - but I found one on the site that was about "2003 CVT problem". It had entries from 2007-2011. It had 124 posts - some of which were folks discussing the extended warranty and a few praising the CVT.

    I am not saying that mikemurano has all this wrong - indeed there have been CVT / transfer case failures on all model years. My only point is that the evidence submitted so far does not make a case for a disastrous design failures that have been touted thus far, the successful transmissions seem to outweigh the bad experiences by a large percentage. Any transmission failure is a bad thing, but I would think we should compare this vehicle to all similar vehicles in its class, and I think we would find that this is not a failure prone product.

    Final note - I had a 1988 Delta 88 that had a transmission fail in it at about 65k. I put 3 more transmissions in it, some admittedly under the AAMCO warranty and I would have to say that once a tranny is gone - if someone rebuilds it, that is the time to trade the car. It will fail again, personal opinion, and not a disparagement on all 1988 - to whatever Oldsmobiles. I would not buy another Oldsmobile (I know lots that did and had a fine experience), but I would not make it my goal in life to have Nissan go out of business, as it seems to be for some posters in this thread. (alas Oldsmobile is gone without any effort on my part )
  • mikesmuranomikesmurano Posts: 118
    Thanks for your comments.

    If you dig a little deeper you will find what was offered.

    If you wish to believe the Nissan CVT is great you're certainly entitled to you opinion.
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