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Honda Fit Suspension/Steering Questions

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  • Could you please get the specific part numbers, etc. for this fix and post it here? I have taken it into my dealer, but they cannot duplicate the problem and can't find a way to fix it. I also called corporate Honda and they said they've never heard of this problem and don't know how to tell the dealer how to fix it. Could you call corporate Honda and give them the details too? This would help many of us out here that can't get it fixed! THANK YOU SO MUCH! I've had my fit for 2 years and the problem continues to occur off and on.
  • tecontecon Posts: 1
    This morning when I started my car to go to work the power steering did not work. It was a cold morning - 40 degrees (cold by Florida standards). I googled the problem and found this forum. Per forum information, I tried restarting the car a few times, which did not solve the problem. I called Honda at 800-999-1009, described my problem and the common problem in this forum. Honda stated that they had no technical service notes and issued a case # N012008-102900045, stating that only the dealer could diagnose the problem and if the dealer could not find a problem there is no problem. Since my car has almost 77K miles I'm out of warranty. I called to check tow prices to get it to the dealer >$100. I went back out and restarted the car. This time the power steering worked and the indicate light turned off.

    I drove it to Brandon Honda who diagnosed that the electronic power steering control module was defective due to the latched computer code of 32-09. The EPS control module is $734.80 (P/N 39980SLNA01). Adding labor and taxes for a grand total of $971.00.

    When the power steering goes out I would not consider the car "drivable". It is this factor that makes this problem unsafe. A failing EPS control module during driving has a high possibility of resulting in an accident.

    I am getting my "failed but working" EPS control module back from the dealer. If anyone has electrical diagrams to connect this module - please post. I would like to put the module in the temperature chamber at work and cycle it through the automotive temperature range of -40C to 125C. I suspect that this a temperature related power on reset and/or initialization problem that impacts all 2007 Honda Fits.
  • As I mentioned earlier, the power steering has stopped twice on me. Both times while idling. After evaluation by my honda dealer they replaced the EPS unit.
    Part Number 39980-SLN-A21. Honda covered the part, I was told it was over $700.
    I covered the labor, as my car was just over warranty period by a few miles.
    Labor was $131.86.

    So far all is well, but it will take some time to regain my confidence that it's really fixed.

    I was pleased with how the dealer handled it. Although they claim Honda has no knowledge of an issue. I printed this entire blog and took it in with me.
    That really helped.
  • vincetcavincetca Posts: 1
    Hi, did you ever get an answer to the steering not working at start up. We have this happen primarily when temperatures are below freezing and / or near freezing and damp. We've been to a dealer twice and they claim no TSBs and no previous complaints. Sometimes it takes several minutes for this to clear up. Sometime you just turn off the car and start again and the power steering works.

    We're very frustrated about this and not sure what to do next.
  • lovemyfitlovemyfit Posts: 4
    It took me a long time to get this worked out, but finally it is fixed! I went round and round with the dealer and they also refused to fix it. Finally after talking with the Honda Corporate people numerous times (and opening a case number), I threatened to report this problem to the National Highway Safety Institute (you can find this online). I was very frightened that a dangerous accident might occur when the power steering went out. Honda Corporate agreed to pay for a loaner car for me indefinitely while I left my Fit at the dealer. The dealer would try to duplicate the problem. No matter what blogs or info I showed them, the insisted that they had to duplicate the problem. I was fine with that as long as I had a car to drive. Lucky me, they started my Fit first thing in the morning on the first day...and the power steering went out! They were able to hook it up to the computer and get a full read on the problem - which was of course, what I had been telling them, that a new Electronic Powering Steering System (EPS) had to put in. They had to order the part which took a couple of weeks (and I kept the loaner the whole time at no charge). This all happened in January and I've never had a problem since. I'm back to loving my Fit again! Good luck!
  • jefffitjefffit Posts: 3
    Bought a '09 Sport a couple of months ago, after having a CRV for 8 years. THAT has been an adjustment. But loving the Fit more each day. Great fun in corners, however, my back is not crazy about the suspension. Seens you feel every little crack in the road through your butt or back. Does anyone know of a way to soften the ride a little? Adjustment? Replacement shocks/springs?
    Thanks for any ideas.
  • whitehawkwhitehawk Posts: 6
    Talk to a tire dealer who is really knows tires. Not just a kid at Walmart. I went the other way (soft OEMs to H rated performance) and it was a great success!
  • jefffitjefffit Posts: 3
    Thanks whitehawk. What tire brand, and type, did you buy, and what difference did you notice? What year is your fit?
    Thanks again.
  • johnnyayqjohnnyayq Posts: 1
    Hi... I feel exactly the same about my '08 FIT, I absolutely LOVE it, but the suspension is terrible, you are correct and feel EVERY bump/crack/hole in the road, I'm in the process of moving from FL to OH, and the roads up north (especially in Ohio) are terrible, the ride is SO bad I don't enjoy driving... any help with the TIRE comments/solutions would be greatly appreciated. THANKS so much!
  • Had an intermittent steering failure on the '07. Took the dealer copies from here. There is now a Honda bulletin on the problem, 09-043.
    Dealer replaced the unit even though they couldn't replicate the problem.
    Ken
  • So my wife had the same problem as everyone else. We have a 07 Fit that is out of warranty. She was idling at a stop light and the steering locked up. She had to go straight instead of turning and could have gotten in an accident. So we called our Honda Dealership and they told us to bring it in to have a $50 diagnostic exam. We insisted that we not pay for it since it is a safety issue. We argued with the service manager, but he eventually agreed to do a complementary diagnostic check. He was very rude at first and even made my wife cry. So, that Monday, I took the car in and they ran a diagnostic check. I spoke with the service manager in person and I told him about the bulletin (#09-043), and our complaint to the Highway Safety Commission. He didn't have to duplicate the problem, probably because of the bulletin, and told me that two codes came up having to do with the Electronic Power Steering. He then told me that he would get on the phone with Honda Corporate and "go to bat for me." After about a half hour of waiting, he brought me into his office and said that Honda would take care of the part and half of the labor. He said that as a courtesy, he would take care of the rest of the labor. So, absolutely no charge to me! It took two days for the part to arrive and they gave me a loner car until we got our Fit back. It took some time and some courage, but you can get this part fixed if you stick to your guns about it being a safety issue. :)
  • wjbalikowjbaliko Posts: 10
    Hs anyone gotten the Quick shifter option with their
    manual transmission?

    I'm familiar with a short shifter on a BMW.
    If the Fit has a truly short shifter it will improve
    the shifting dramatically.

    Anyone have any comments?
    Thanks guys
  • I'm going through this same situation now with my 07 fit and the way it looks Honda isn't willing to do anything. I've owned six Honda's and can't figure out why on my latest one that's a little over three years old they don't want to take care of someone who has a safety related problem such as this.
  • Hello Fitgotfixed or any one lese,

    My wifes 2007 Honda Fit sport has the exact same issue with the power steering suddenly becomes stiff and turns on the EPS indicator while turning. We have brought this car to the deale 3 times, btut they could not fix the problem or come up with some other TSB articles r. The last time we left the car on and towed it to the dealer to see the proff becasue it very hard to duplicate. They want us to pay over $300 for goodwill repair cost. I have talked to Honda Corp and been given a case# and case mgr will be in touch soon. Any othter suggestions or comments anyone have to help me?
  • kkesskkess Posts: 3
    I am having the same Power Steering issues I've seen with my Honda Fit. Many have talked about the bulletin 09-043 but I can't seem to find that TSB anywhere online? Does any one have the link to the TSB so I can bring this to the dealer?

    I'm hoping to prevent some of the battle of having them fix this issue that should in my opinion be covered..

    Thanks so much,
    Kevin
  • raikouraikou Posts: 1
    Hi there, I heard your question and wanted to help. If you look at your Fit's clearance between the wheel and the fender, you'll notice there isn't much "travel" as in you wheels dont have much space to move up. FYI, dont get new shocks, the newer a shock is the stiffer, which means more butt pain in your case. Use stock or soft shocks. You might be able to raise your ride height a bit too with some tuning and that would give you a little more comfort. However, by raising it even 1cm you'll want to get Mugen Sway Bars for the front and back. This HARD sway bar will decrease the car's natural rolling tendency especially when it's raised.
    I hope this will be helpful to you and reply if you have more questions about it.^^
  • almichalmich Posts: 11
    I am thinking about getting the Honda Fit after frustrations with the EPS on my 2010 Corolla. At high speeds, my Corolla wanders slightly from side the side and it really bothers me.

    I was wondering if anybody experience this wandering issue with the Honda Fit.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    The steering in my '09 Fit Sport is quite direct and precise. It feels a little artificial, but it works quite well. The only "wandering" I encounter is when I'm driving in a crosswind, and it's not the steering that is at fault for that one--it's the combination of light weight and large sail area.
  • I just leased a 2010 Fit Sport automatic and I haven't noticed much in the way of wandering... The steering seems reasonably accurate although steering feel leaves a little to be desired imo, of course, I was driving an Accord V6 prior to this with hydraulic steering so I may be biased ;)
  • almichalmich Posts: 11
    Thanks for the reply. With my 2010 Corolla S, it feels like I am driving in a crosswind whenever I am over 60 MPH. It is driving me a little nuts and I really do not enjoy driving my car at all. I wish I had my 1996 Honda Accord back.
  • bluefitbluefit Posts: 2
    Regarding your message, "At high speeds, my Corolla wanders slightly from side the side and it really bothers me."---I LOVE my 2010 Honda Fit but it does the SAME THING--it wanders from side to side, just a little bit, at high speeds. Almost feels like the pavement is grooved and the car is catching in the grooves and you have to correct it, when in fact the pavement isn't grooved at all. This is why I signed on to this forum, to see if anyone else is experiencing this problem and to find out why its happening. Is anyone else experiencing this with their Honda Fit?

    Also, I get a strange "floating" sensation in my Honda Fit. At first I thought it was because I hadn't experienced a new car's suspension in forever (the car I had before this was VERY old) but my husband noticed the same thing! The "floating" feeling and weaving ever-so-slightly from side to side at high speeds sort of go together. Anyone out there know what I mean?? I really do LOVE my Fit though, but want to know if this is something that should be fixed.
  • I am experiencing the same problem in my 2010 Honda Accord 4-Cylinder. I don't even like to drive it because of this. I had a 2004 and a 2007 Accord and neither of these vehicles did this. I am wondering the same thing that maybe something is wrong with the suspension. Maybe they use the same suspension on the Accord as they do on the Fit.

    Let me know if you find anything out regarding this issue.
  • Its been several weeks since I posted that message about my brand new little Honda Fit 'floating' slightly from side to side at high speeds, and I'm not experiencing that so much any more. I don't know if that's because I"ve gotten used to it, or if I've 'broken it in' somehow. But I can now say absolutely unequivocally that I adore my little 2010 Honda Fit. Its a great little car.
  • If you own a 2007 or 2008 Honda Fit and have experienced power steering failure, I implore you to contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration with your story so that we can get Honda or the government to issue a recall of the Electronic Power Steering Control Unit in our cars.

    My power steering has been going out intermittently since the car was brand new. My dealer didn't do anything but clear the error codes and tell me Honda had not issued any bulletins or recalls about it. In the past week, my steering has gone out 4 times!! I checked the NHTSA website and found only 3 complaints, not including mine, which will be posted soon. Again, if you're experiencing power steering failure contact both Honda and NHTSA about it so a recall can be issued.
  • Here is a link to the elusive Honda Service Bulletin related to the Power Steering Failure problem (09-043)

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/26491744/Service-Bulletin

    Notice how they say, "steering feels heavier than normal." Well, yeah, the power assist has failed!!
  • Stop driving your car! You are putting your life at risk. Waiting for honda to fix the problem is not worth your life. I feel your pain, and luckily our dealer took care of the problem even out of warranty. But even if you have to pay it's not work serious bodily harm.
  • Don't worry, the car will be fixed this week. My point is for people who have or are having this problem to report it to the NHTSA so that Honda has to acknowledge that there is a serious problem with this component.
  • Has anyone noticed that the steering is off when others are sitting in your Fit? And also I've had to have the steering realigned three freaking times now and the car only has 50k miles on it.
  • When my car had a bad eps unit the steering would often go dead if i let the car idle for extended periods of time. It did get replaced by the way at about 70k and Honda picked up most of the tab. It was around $1100.00 total and i think i paid around $200.00 of it. Getting them to pay wasn't an easy thing as i spent three weeks without a car while it sat at the dealer and i sat on the phone with Honda and the dealer and listened to lies and all sorts of BS. Most customers would have just written a check and walked away.

    Good Luck Folks
  • fitmomfitmom Posts: 2
    My 2009 Honda Fit is having the same problem - intermitent loss of power steering! It happens just driving around town and on the highway. The dashboard steering light turns on and complete loss of power steering for about 2-5 seconds then pops back on. Just took to my dealer and they are having trouble figuring out what is wrong - they say they have never heard of this problem before.

    Talk about DANGEROUS! I am heading over to the NHTSA website to post a complaint!
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