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Taurus/Sable Maintenance & Repair

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  • snowmansnowman Posts: 540
    I am not a pro but as soon as I read your message some items came to my mind.
    They are Air filter, MAF sensor, fuel filter (if you experince the same symptoms on HGWY), fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump and might be dirty fuel injectors.
    Hope this provides some insight.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    Change PCV valve and breather element (if it has one)fuel and air filters. If you haven't before, get a fuel injection cleaning from a mechanic where they put it on a machine and decarbonize all of the deposits. Have the spark plugs been replaced, and timing been done recently?
  • kw_carmankw_carman Posts: 114
    I also posted this on the Ford Taurus Problem board. Why the heck are there two? Anyway, my grandmother has a 97 Taurus LX, and it is starting to fall apart. First let me state that it was bought at two years old with low miles by a +70 year old grandmother, who is a light driver (to church, bank and grocery store, and that's it). The front cup holder came apart within the first two months. Also, the power windows on both sides in the back have stopped working, and the ones in the front make awful noises. Most recently, the wiring the in driver's door got screwed up, causing the factory alarm to continuously go off at all hours. (Grandma got two calls from others in her retirement center before she could run and disarm it at 2:30 AM). Is this normal for a Ford?
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    90,000 miles, and no major problems.
  • snowmansnowman Posts: 540
    I took him to dealer for maintenance on coolant, ps fluid, brake fluid and mentioned some annoying behavior. Steering was groaning from full right turn and I was loosing PS 2-3 seconds on parking lots. My blue oval dealer called and told me that they are replacing PS pump. This was previous generation's illness. I thought 2K models have redefined PS pumps. After this I will be replacing my brakes with Raybestos components. Is anyone out there having PS problem?
  • eskinner3eskinner3 Posts: 1
    my dome light come on when i am driving and want go out. other time it will be on and will go out when i drive off i have a 98 taurus. the door lock want automatic close when the dome light is on. and the indicator that say the doors are open comes on. where do i find the switch that causing the problem
  • alcanalcan Posts: 2,550
    The switches are built into the door latches. Spray them well with brake cleaner, WD40, or equivalent.
  • 47275514727551 Posts: 1
    Hi Experts!

    When the key is turned all I hear is a click. I swapped the battery with a known good battery. Checked the cable from the battery to the starter, looks - OK. Is the starter relay part of the starter. After working on the battery and checking the cable the vechile will not start.

    Thanks.
  • alcanalcan Posts: 2,550
    Check the negative cable at the battery and at the engine block.
  • johnwngjohnwng Posts: 24
    My '97 Taurus had the same problem. Dome light stayed on and automatic door lock wouldn't lock. Thanks to alcan's advise, I sprayed the door latch with WD40. I also took off the door panel and sprayed freely on all the links/joints. That was about three month's ago, and the dome light hasn't been malfunctioning since. alcan, thanks for your expert advise.
  • alcanalcan Posts: 2,550
    You're welcome. Glad to hear you got it resolved.
  • kw_carmankw_carman Posts: 114
    On my grandma's 97 LX, she is having a problem with the factory alarm going off. Could the WD40 solution work for her, because it is a door sensor that is setting it off at the worst times (2 a.m.)
  • alcanalcan Posts: 2,550
    It'd be the easiest and least expensive option. Give it a try, see if it works.
  • I've had decent luck with 2 Tauruses but now that I own a 92 Camry with 102K that runs better than my mom's 93Taurus with only 82K...........
    I've replaced the Taurus A/C, both front and rear stabilizers, and engine oil leak caused by a bad gasket. I would rate the Taurus as average. Mine has 97K. I'm not buying domestic American Car Company vehicles anymore. Japanese quality is better and that includes those made in the USA by US citizens.
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    what you expect. I'm assumming your Taurus is a 93 or older. I don't consider that average as far as having to make repairs.

    I don't understand what you mean by the Camry runs better. Seems to me that is subjective.The quality gap been American verse japanese nameplates has been closing. Considering you will pay more for the japanese nameplates you'll probably never get your more back if you think you'll save it through less repairs and routine maintenance.
  • snowmansnowman Posts: 540
    I agree, plus big rip off on scheduled maintenance and wear-tear items.
  • gslevegsleve Posts: 183
    "has been closing" it has been established that a japanese vehicle most of the time with few exceptions of a lemon will outlast a American vehicle and require less repair and maintenance over the extended period additionally the american car always seems to leave you stranded in the most precarious situations whereas the japanese at least gives you some sort of warning prior to failure. It is a given in the final analysis that a american car will cost you twice if not three times as much to own over it's life expectancy compared to a japanese vehicle
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    you serious? I'm not going to argue that japanese cars were more reliable in the 80's. I won't argue that Japanese cars were screwed together better than American cars back then and had more reliable drive trains.

    I see you drive a Nissan so right there you have a bias. Show me some proof that they last longer! Cost two to three times more to own! That is a ridiculous statement.

    Why am I discussing this with you? Out!
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    I bought my Taurus in 98. It was a 97 Rental Car. I considered a new Accord at the time. The Accord was 3,000 more to purchase and 300 more a year to insure. I've paid 165 for non routine maintance in over four years of ownership. I've got original brakes, two original tires, original plugs, wires etc. The car has 71k. It gets 30 MPG on the highway and 23 in mixed driving.

    I know a friend that bought a 98 camry and got 20k out of the original tires.
  • mullins87mullins87 Posts: 959
    Aren't Nissans built in Spring Hill Tennessee? I believe the drivetrain was probably built in Winchester Tennessee.
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    I don't think it makes any difference where a car is assembled. For that matter it doesn't make much difference where the components are built.

    There is an opinion shared by some people that a japanese or european name plate equals a better and more reliable car.American makes have only themselves to blame.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    I cannot speak for all the millions of people who have bought Tauri over the last 17 years? is it, however, I can speak from my personal experience. I bought a '90 Taurus new, drove it for 10 years and 98,000 miles. In that period I was stranded only once when the starter failed. I did replaced CV joint boots at about 60000, starter at 65000, two tie rod ends at around 50000, and finally had AC leaks and radiator at about 70000. I changed plugs myself twice but with Platinum plugs really didn't need to, and did all my own oil & filter changes about 3,000 mile intervals. That plus normal maintenance, one brake job and one set of tires. It was still going strong and the next owner got a good used car.

    So good, in fact, I bought a new 2000 SES at the end of the model year. 15,000 miles so far and no problems. Car is quiet, solid with good tradeoff between ride and handling, and the 24 valve has good power. All for $18,000 and 0.9PCT financing.

    The '90 Taurus never developed a squeak or rattle in 10 years. So far the new one is excellent as well.

    I'm not knocking the Japanese brands, just seems to me that they generally are overpriced for the same features, and have higher parts costs and costs for "routine" maintenance. So the net result is you end up paying more for perceived peace of mind. Also, all cars have improved so much in the last 10-15 years, that even an car which is rated as having "average" reliability is much better than an average car in the past.
  • mullins87mullins87 Posts: 959
    I was suggesting that Gary was knocking American cars, yet he is driving one that is just as much American as the Taurus.

    I agree with you, I don't think it matters anymore. What does matter is the quality of the parts supplier. And we all know that parts are outsourced on a global level.

    I honestly don't believe there is a "hill of beans" difference between Japanese and American cars. The only complaint I have of Japanese cars is the premium people are willing to pay just for that perceived peace of mind.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    Have you seen a difference in quality in the newer Taurus? In some of the press I have been reading, and internet sites Ford has been taking a real beating.

    My Dad used to be a Chevy man, but the last 4 cars he purchased were all Fords. He is enjoying his 1995 and has recently put a lot of miles on it.

    I have started to get interested in them since my favorite mechanic is a Ford/Mazda man, and they can be gotten for a good price. I definitely favor domestic repair costs.
  • mullins87mullins87 Posts: 959
    My wife and I have been looking at the Taurus wagon. You can get a "lot" of car for the money, considering todays prices. I almost refuse to do the minivan thing, and SUV's are way overpriced. So that leaves the station wagon, which is a fairly small market from the number of wagons available. I tend to buy the car that is "not in vogue" at the time. You can get a lot more car for the money that way. My wife currently has a '95 Cougar. We bought it new, fairly well equiped, for well under $20k. But the bodystyle was aging at the time. Didn't bother me one bit.

    I just hope that Ford doesn't drop the Taurus wagon before time for us to buy again.
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    I wasn't disagreeing with you, it's my way of adding further info and backing you up.I also had a 93 Escort Wagon that was a solid car.

    I get ticked when I read the Japanese superior line being thrown out. I have a 98 Mercury Villager. It's amazing how some people knock it because they know it has a Nissan drive train but Ford supplies most of the rest of the vehicle.

    I don't care where they are made or who is designing them. I try to get good value for my money. That is subjective and it's nice we live in a country that allows free enterprise and choice!
  • mullins87mullins87 Posts: 959
    Oops. I apologize. I must've just read it wrong.
  • gslevegsleve Posts: 183
    opinion's just as I am, however it has been my experience that over the years (given my short time on this earth) and of all the people I know the frequency of repairs on the american cars has been over and above those of japanese cars (barring a few exceptions) yet I've seen these same people who upon the purchase of their second car (japanese)have way fewer breakdowns and remark how nice and pleasant it is not be plagued by frequecy of repairs. Yes I own a nissan and to my knowledge my particular year was not assembled in the states (could be wrong) additionally have owned a toyota and have owned a ford and have owned a mitsubshi, only one american car have I owned and it constantly needed repairs every other month. Additionally have seen many people who've owned american switch to a japanese vehicle then back to a american and have complained that the american car is constantly at the shop whereas the japanese hardly is with exception routine maintenance. (OPINION)

    Those who speak of owning their fords with very few repairs kudos to you, its appears that you are among the few who have experienced such fortune nonetheless when compard to the same number of toyotas or honda's nissan's, the fequency and or calibur of repairs for these vehicles are considerably less to that of fords chevy's chryslers yet I have to confess I do like buicks and oldsmobiles. Of interest too is the fact that some of these manufacturers have had foreknowledge of componets failing ie: head gaskets, transmission and other item some of which they had no awareness of yet proved to be a engineering flaw that needed correcting, I guess this is referred to as a recall yet maybe (planned obselencse)sorry spelling, again I feel that the amount of recalls are way too many and too frequent for these particular vehicles over the years when compared to a japanese vehicles. (OPINION)

    IE: Friends 95 taurs cv joint, 2 tranny repairs, head gasket repair, steering rack, ball joints, tie rod ends (the latter are a given wearable items) at 75,000 miles these items I feel failed prematurely and unnecessarily (FACT)

    On the contrary 90 Honda Accord 106,000 miles battery; timing belt(maintenance)no tranny no head gasket no cv joints no struts no water pump no steering rack (FACT)

    However I will concede to the fact that the gap is slowly and I mean slowly closing, again my OPINION not the GOSPEL OR LAW and I feel just as everybody else is entitled to theirs and with due respect. I'm not here to start a controversy just stating what I know or think or feel however absurd it may be to you. To quote you partially "it's nice we live in a country that allows free enterprise and choice!" this applies with equal force to one's opinion. (OPINION)
  • riswamiriswami Posts: 192
    last post was pretty well stated. I don't agree with some of your points; but I understand were you are coming from.

    As far as head gaskets; Ford should be ashamed for the 3.8 and the problems with head gaskets. Then again, Toyota had a silent recall on head gaskets on the six that powered the four runner. I know first hand, my brother in-law had it done. And it was a documented problem. On top of that, that Toyota engine is a gas pig. So my point is Toyota, Honda and Nissan aren't perfect; no car is.

    I'd like to know if Ford trannies fail more than other makes? I work with someone who has the same year as my Taurus. That tranny went out at 70k. I asked her if she ever changed the fluid. She looked at me like I had two heads! Maybe it would have failed anyways.

    I was told by my Ford dealer that there are two manufacters (suppliers) of Taurus trannies. One supplier is good, the other more subject to break down. This came from a few people working the service desk in the repair bay. Anyone else ever here of this?
  • mullins87mullins87 Posts: 959
    Like I said in an earlier post: "What does matter is the quality of the parts supplier."
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