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2007 Toyota Tundra Engines

rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,696
edited March 10 in Toyota
A very small percentage (.0006%) of the new 5.7L engines have experienced camshaft failures according to Automotive News.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2828

Bob
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  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,696
    .067%. Even so, still a pretty tiny number.

    Bob
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    New engine. Sounds like a supplier issue more than a Toyota issue.

    I doubt it'll blow up into some huge catastrophe like the GM piston-slappers or the self-ejecting sparkplug Triton motors but Toyota really needs to reel this one in.

    20 reported failures is peanuts, 20 thousand is a nightmare.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    what the final numbers are.
  • bakemonobakemono Posts: 3
    Give Toyota credit for fixing the issue before it grows into a mass recall.
    I can think of some other automakers who would have ignore this issue untill it affected a large number of engines. Kudos to Toyota for taking care of their customers.
  • trucktrickstrucktricks Posts: 45
    I wonder if it will be more or less of a catastrophe than the Toyota sludge fiasco.
  • bakemonobakemono Posts: 3
    I would say less, much less. 20 failures out of 30,000 engines is a very slight issue.
  • trucktrickstrucktricks Posts: 45
    Yeah, but.....

    The fact that Toyota is considering a recall suggests that they think the problem might not be so small. Could the 20 failures be the tip of an iceberg? What will happen when more of the 30,000 get additional miles on them?

    Only time will tell.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    I agree. Considering the market (the last real American stronghold) and the fact that this is a launch vehicle instead of just a new engine, Toyota can't afford to fall on their face less than 6 months out of the chute. Fast action on all potential engines is the only way to avoid a PR nightmare.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • bakemonobakemono Posts: 3
    Toyota has said that the problem camshafts were a result of a bad batch on early engines.
    Just because they issue a recall, that doesnt mean that every '07 Tundra will be included. It could be a very small number of engines, maybe 1,000 or less.
    I say again, kudos to Toyota for seeing what is right now a small issue and addressing it before it becomes a major recall.
    Unlike some other automakers who like to sweep minor problems like this under the rug, Toyota is standing by their customers and making it right.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,696
    No recall has been issued yet.

    Bob
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    Well that didn't have anything to do with Toyota trucks but whatever...

    And as far as that being "A fiasco" lol, if you change your oil at the recommended interval, then you shouldn't have an issue... Heck, any car is susceptible to oil gelling if you don't change it on a routine basis.

    Not so convenient a solution for the the GM or the Ford trucks... ;)
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Yes, it is a very small percentage so far but it will likely get bigger. Toyota learned its lesson in trying to hide the fact that they have engine issues (sludge problems), and now quickly put the blame on others. The majority of auto manufactures buy their parts from different suppliers including engine parts, rear ends, axles, seats, tires, brakes, ignition, etc. So by coming out and saying that it was a contractors fault does little because ultimately Toyota is at fault just like if an Eaton rear end on a GMC Sierra went bad it would be considered a GM problem not an Eaton problem.

    With the sales struggle of the new Tundra this could only make it worse.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    Right..................

    With the sales struggle of the new Tundra this could only make it worse

    That's a false statement. Dream on.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The truth hurts doesn't it.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    to buy a Tundra with perhaps a faulty cam....would you?
  • andy82471andy82471 Posts: 120
    If you guys check the May sales figure you will see that Tundra sales have nearly doubled. If you call that struggling I am sure Toyota doesn't mind to struggle. Right now Toyota is on top of the world and the Tundra incident is just a minor hiccup.
  • 12ozcurls12ozcurls Posts: 65
    hahaha...yeah toyota is doing rather well this month, but all the truck manufactures are up this month, except for Ford which can afford to sell a few less trucks. And well I do agree that this is a minor hiccup, based on the last tundra, this will not be the last. The last Tundra was complete garbage. I dont know why everyone thinks Toyota is such a superior brand. They have their problems just like any other auto maker does. Not only are they leading in car sales but they are also fast approaching leading in the number of recalls their vehicles are having, not just here but also in Japan. So before you tattoo a Toyota T on your chests, you might want to check out some facts.
    http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/otf0999.html
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/07/toyota_recalls.html
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/01/toyota_sludge_settlement.html
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/toyota_quality.html
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_tundra.html
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_prius.html
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    "Right now Toyota is on top of the world and the Tundra incident is just a minor hiccup."

    I agree they have peaked as an automaker, but they have been slip sliding away in the last 2-3 years with reliability/product issues. The thing thats exciting about the truck is that its new with a new engine. The engine was said to be descent but only time will tell if it will hold up long term. Other than the trucks styling being a big eye sore, in reality it comes up short compared to the domestic offerings in almost every catagory. Take away the mediocre engine and you have an ugly truck with a weak frame, average ride, poor handling, questionable rear-end traction, below average interior, to name a few.
  • exploder750exploder750 Posts: 159
    "The majority of auto manufactures buy their parts from different suppliers including engine parts,"

    Many of Toyota's suppliers are wholly owned by Toyota, so it would be interesting to see just who this camshaft "supplier" REALLY is. ;)
  • vortecmaxvortecmax Posts: 5
    Take away the mediocre engine and you have an ugly truck with a weak frame, average ride, poor handling, questionable rear-end traction, below average interior, to name a few.

    I agree, they are butt-ugly, but fortunately I never see them on the road. I think I have seen one, maybe 2. If they were as prominent as the F150 or the GM twins, I would gouge my eyeballs out. :shades:
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    Thank you for your insightful post. I am sure mighty GM and even mighter Ford and Chrysler has nothing to fear from Toyota. ;) :P
  • vortecmaxvortecmax Posts: 5
    Not in the truck segment they don't. Toyota has been trying to enter this segment for years now and have not succeeded with much market share yet. I don't see that changing anytine soon. And when Ford releases the new 2009 F150, their sales will skyrocket once again and it'll be a 2-horse race between them and the GMT900's. The Tundra will be laps behind, as usual.
  • sdiegosdiego Posts: 5
    Good news or bad news, this truck is hot on the market, otherwise... no one would bother talking about it. This should help continue increase the sales.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    Lot's of "Hopefulls" around here. Toyo must be laughing their collective arses off at the reactions of those tried-and-true domestic buyers. Now that the Tundra has made significant inroads (On target to sell the projected 200k earlier than expected) compared to the outgoing one has really brought out the insecuruties of the owners. This much backhanded, armchair criticism is a compliment if anything, cause it shows that the Tundra is "serious comptition" and those other guys have taken notice. It is, of course the last stronghold the domestic manufacturers have to defend in the market.

    Think of it this way, if the Tundra really was a "Flop" as some of the 14yo's on this forum claim it to be, why waste the time littering the Tundra forums with trash talking and needless anti-Toyota babbling? Why not let the market speak the truth. Sure, in this case the market IS showing favorable results towards the Tundra, but does anybody REALLY believe that a few negative posts on an internet forum will change things? lol.

    Hey, my buddy is a service manager for a GM dealer in NH. Got stuck with not 1, but 2 GMC Sierra's that turned out to be trash. Problems got so bad that he strayed to the "Dark side" and bought a Tundra. Really, if your own employees don't stand by your product (GM) then what does that say?

    Like it or not, the Tundra is a success. No amount of internet bullying is going to change that.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    Why does it hurt there in lala-land?

    link title

    link title

    The all-new Tundra
    full-size pickup reported all-time best-ever sales of 17,727, an increase
    of 113.8 percent over the year-ago month.


    Again, dream on.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,696
    According to this link, Tundra sales up 122%, May 2007 vs. May 2006. Regardless, big increases however you measure it.

    "Tundra sales were 17,727, up 122 percent."

    http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/business/7789236.html

    Bob
  • Here's the deal. Toyota has been quite vocal about selling 200k units this MY. They will in fact do that, maybe even plus a few for bragging rights, by putting as much cash on the hood as it takes. They are already doing it.

    I pity the poor early buyers that are finding out that they paid too much for their beloved Toyota. Not a good way to treat your customers.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,175
    Peoople aren't paying THAT much different now than when the truck appeared. Plus, dealers are always grasping for those extra $$$'s when a new product comes out, whether it be a Tundra or a Camry. If buyers are willing to pay for it because they want to be the first on the block to have one, then they will.

    Try shopping for a Z06, dealers are gouging as much as 10 grand more on those. Yet, there are not similar criticisms.

    They'll get that back when they go to trade it.
  • wolfkillrwolfkillr Posts: 8
    I'll bet that the people that have got nothing else to do than bash Tundras, probably never drove the 07.I drove all of the major brands, and Tundra was my pick. I narrowed it down to the G.M.C 6-ltr SLT and Tundra limited d.c. and the Toyota won.i'm as an "AMEICAN" as anybody, an probably more than most, but but if i'm going to spend my money, i'll buy what i want.You know if there really is a cam problem, it may not be a bad deal for Tundra owners. Just think i might get a new motor at 59,999 miles. I trade after 4-5 years anyway. Just something to think about!!
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