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Pontiac Torrent Ignition Problem

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  • brendavbrendav Posts: 11
    Hello, I recently read your message and are having the same problems with my 2006 torrent. Have you resolved the problem yet. I have had the ignition replace, the starter replaced, the ignition cleaned out, and some cable reconnected in the last six months. This has been going on for over a year. The car had 20,000 miles on it when this started happening. now its up to 47,000. Let me know what you came up with. Brenda
  • Brenda, Be sure to go back and read all of the entries. I pursued this with my dealer and GM who started a file. Over several months they did make several adjustments, trying several different things, but they did end up extending my warranty to 100,000 miles (of course if GM does go under that will be valuable, lol). Part of the extended warranty is because I have purchased my last 4 cars at the same dealer. The important thing on your part is to document everything! Keep a notebook including when the hard starting happens. Urge your dealer to contact GM and see what the history is with this problem in other Torrents. There is at least my file and it looks like another person has a GM file. Basically my starting issues ended last March although it has happened 3 times since then. Last winter it was happening several times a week. Your dealer probably won't be impressed by what people post on this site but they would pay attention to GM. Everyone that is having problems needs to be sure it is documented back to Detroit. Good Luck
  • samiamlsamiaml Posts: 10
    Hi Brenda, Well as i stated in my last post ive been in contact with GM and they did make a file for me regarding this problem. I had my Torrent in for the 2nd time about a week and a half ago and this time i told them i DO NOT want this vehicle back until its fixed.... So after talking to the service manager i was given a rental. 2 days later they called me and said that they were unable to get the truck to have the starting problem but they did notice that the onboard computer was 2 steps behind in updates... so they updated it and since then(1week and a half) i havnt had the starting prob.... I truely think its to early to tell if this updating the computer thing has actually solved the prob. I did call GM back to keep them up to date with my truck problem... he said that as of now hopefully the updating the computer has did the trick and he will close my file... He said that from the day he closed it to 90 days after that i can reopen the file and continue with my case. I have a VERY big issue about buying a newer vehicle (2006) wit 32,000 miles and in less then a week having a problem with it... So trust me i WILL get this problem fixed (If not already) or i will demand GM giv me an extended warrenty or they buy back there BROKE vehicle! I also asked the guy from GM if this problem is NOT fixed and my manufactors warrenty ends what then???? I said since its a pre-exisiting problem will they still fix it for free and he said no!!!!!!!!! So i bought my Torrent as a certified vehicle so i have to 48,000 miles... So to make a long story short im not paying for anything to be fixed on that truck if its regarding the starting issue...So ill get it fixed one way or another!!!! I went from a 01 Grand Am with 90,000 miles of which i NEVER had a problem with, (but because it was gettin up there in miles i thought it would be in my best interest to get a new vehicle.) To a 2006 Torrent and have had more problems wit the Torrent in 1 week then i did wit the Grand Am in over 6 yrs. Whats funny about the whole situation is the dealer acts like of all the Torrents they have sold im the ONLY one with this problem.... And GM also acts like this is something new and they never heard of it...... What a bunch of bull! :mad:
  • Well lets see the dealer has had my car again its going on its 2nd day and nothing yet! Mine started about 20,000 miles! these cars of a peice of junk! I have a extended warrenty or something but GM will not give me the paper work saying what its for! I'm so mad! They have replaced the starter, computer and some other things an nothing yet has worked! I'm so lost on what to do next! I think GM needs to buy back all these cars and give us our money back!!
  • Thats what im sayin....... Tomorrow i gotta take it to the dealer for the fourth time for them to check the same problem.... Ive been in contact wit GM and its to the point where i am now demanding that the dealer either keep the truck until its fixed or like you said they need to buy this wack [non-permissible content removed] torrent back or trade me for something simuilar. Ive only had my Torrent a lil over a month and all this drama already.... I guess GM is sick of hearing from me cause the guy ive been dealing wit wont answer my calls nor return them. I so dont know what to do n e more... Im at my wits end wit this truck... And the longest the dealer has kept it is over night. I tell them they need to keep it longer and they tell me they cant. Well it happened again this past weekend which is usually when it does it... almost exactly once a week..... well now it seems to be doing it more...but i called the dealer and told them and they said bring it in that next day of which i did the last 3 times... I told them this time i will bring it in 5 or 6 days later cause thats when it seems to happen (which is this fri) so we'll see....... Man i had a 01 Grand Am and loved it.... Never had one prob wit it........ So i thought since that was a Pontiac and was a good car i should get another Pontiac... boy was i wrong... I think after this i will never buy another GM again.....
  • Hello fellow torrent owner!!!

    The dealership had my torrent for a total of 23 days. Over the past year . We have been round and round. Well here is where I am at. We have replaced the ignition, and rebuilt it over and over. Next they checked the injectors for fuel build up. Next the check engine light came on and we thought yay!!!!!!! but it was a loose wire. Next we replaced the starter. thought it was fixed. NOT!!!!!! All the while the service manager never able to duplicate the problem. They were just taking my word for it. Right after we replaced the starter it started acting up. While it was acting up I called the Service manager and put him on speaker phone. He heard the nine times it took to get it started. He thought it was a fuel problem. I took in for another 7 days and nothing. It didnt want to act up. I brought it back to the dealership again for three days. So he asked it one of the guys could take it home. I said ok. The next day they were driving it and finally!!!!!! it acted up. It left them stranded for 37 minutes before it would start. Heres something, It lost 40 pounds of fuel pressure when the starter kept dragging and hesitating to start. They immediately said Fuel Pump!!!!!. So another two days later they replaced the fuel pump. At this point I was hopeful. I picked the car up in the evening. Not even four starts later i am stranded for 30 minutes. I immediately called the dealer. The service managers response was Call Pontiac. I cant help you. I have done all I can. I called pontiac back. And as of today I am still driving a defective car and waiting for an engineer from pontiac to look at my car. The problem is that I cannot get a rental car until they diagnose a problem. I am losing days of work and pay. We as pontiac owners are getting the shaft. I spoke to a girl at pontiac and asked her what my chances are for them to get me out of this car. She said sometimes they give good customer vouchers to help with a down payment on another car. But she said specifically I wont get the money I paid into the defective car. She mumbled something about five hundred dollars. If I dont get anything resolved with the engineer. I am going to go for the lemon law. The dealership and I have records of how many times this car has been in for the same problem. I have four claims with pontiac regarding the same problem. Dont mention the Lemon law to pontiac becuause they will stop talking to you as soon as those words come out of your mouth. Your extended warranty is probably through a company called Superior. Do you have a 100.00 deductable every time you go in? My car now has 48000 miles. My starting problem started at about 20000 miles. I have been fighting this since one year after I bought the car brand new. For a total ownership of two years and five months. They should be recalled. I hope this helps you by telling you about the fuel pressure drop. I am expecting a call on Monday from pontiac to schedue yet another drop off at the dealership so an engineer can look at it. I asked Pontiac what the difference between an engineer and a service technician was. She said an engineer eats, and sleeps cars. What a load of crap. I am becoming a professional at the waiting game. As well as other Pontiac owners. I will let you know whats going on.

    Brenda Valentine
  • Brenda,
    That is very interesting. I am the one with the 100K warranty for my Torrent. It is through Pontiac not an off brand company. I have had a couple of issues of no starts this winter but it really has been good since last March. In any case I keep a notebook to document all issues. You really have to work with your dealer on this. I am sure you are frustrated since they have said they have done all they can. They need the support of the GM engineers. Although I was firm and both GM and the dealer knew I was angry, I gave the impression we could work together to solve this. The previous writer let their frustration work against themand that doesn't help. In any case it is important for GM to have files on these issues.
    Barb
  • Well i took my truck in this fri and spoke to the service manager instead of just a service worker.... he was informed on all my calls and dealer visits.... He said ok lets park the truck outside and wait 15-20 as if you were going in a store and then we'll go out together and start it.... So my husband and i waited an waited and about 25 mins later the service manager caller our name and we went together to start it.... He handed the keys to me and said i should start it.... i said i am so sick of this truck not starting i dont want to deal wit it give the keys to my husband... so he did.... My husband jumps in the truck and turns the key..... and of course it starts..... So he trys it again....Still it starts....Meanwhile the service managers talking to me outside the vehicle and lookin at me like im crazy cuz the truck never does it for them..... So my husband trys it again.... and it did it.... it just cranked...... I was so happy.... After 4 visits to the dealer (of which is 40 mins, one way from our house) the service guy saw this happen..... But because we were talkin i dont think he fully heard it... I said did you hear that... he said faintly...I said is that normal... he started saying something about it bein an ele starter it sometimes it has to find its contack point or something so it my crank a bit..... So my husband turned the key again and of course it started.... He did it again and it started.... and on the 3rd try it did it again..... Just cranked... and this time a nice long one...... I said so your telling me this is normal.... he says oh i never heard of that..... He tells my husband let me try... So he gets in and trys and it starts, trys again and it starts and again.., of course it starts....then on the 4th try it just cranked again... and again a longer crank.... I said again you can not tell me this is normal..... So he said lets go in and i have to call GM assisants or something.... We say ok and we go back to the waiting room.... Meanwhile we're grining from ear to ear cuz the truck finally just cranked wit the key in the hands of the service manager..... we finally think we're gonna get somewhere...... About 15 mins later he comes over and says he couldnt get ahold of the GM assist guy so pretty much sorry.... Im like what.... he says sorry i cant keep your truck.... I was pissed.... I said 3 times this truck just cranked in front of you and theres nothing your going to do about it.... He says that yes it had long cranking at times but it did eventually start...... He said it has to actually NOT start for it to be a prob.....I said i should not have to try to start the truck 2 or 3 time before it finally starts... this is a 2006 vehicle not a 1974 it should start right away..... Im like so i gotta wait till im stranded on the side of the road somewhere wit my 7 yr old lil girl in freezin tempatures before you do something about this.....I started yellin and cursin and the service manager tells me to calm down and i said no i wont.... you dont want all these people here to know you sell junk cars..... He didnt say a word after that... He started saying something and i said let me talk to the owner of this dealership.... So we all went in his office and talked...... To make a long story short i am now told when i start the truck and it dont start on the second try im suppose to call the service manager and then they're gonna come to wherever i am and either hook it up to a portable diagnois machine or have it towed to there dealership.... I told them that is such a hassel for me when they can just keep it now and fix the prob while its there.... but they tell me they can not keep it cuz as it sits right now theres nuttin to fix.... I was soooooo pissed but my husband tells me to calm down.... So i said whatever.... whatever its gonna take for you people to fix my truck....I will miss work... yet again..... i will be late picking up my daughter from skool.... yet again...... just to satisify your wishes ok....So thats how we left the conversation cuz i walked out.... I truely think they're waiting for my manufactors warrenty to run out and say sorry now you gotta pay.... Well i bought it certified so i have till 48,000 miles and it now has like 33,000 but still they keep puttin off fixing it... The keep saying they cant fix something thats not broken..... But this time the prob actually happened in front of them and still i get nowhere...i love my truck but this is gettin really ridiculous.... Other then updating the onboard comp they havnt did a thing.... How do you fix a prob if you dont start somewhere.... I told them check the ignition... check the starter... check the wires... do something other then tellin me theres nuttin you can do.... So i dont know whats gonna happen from here......

    Samantha
  • Samantha, There is nothing I can tell you to help other than I am in the same boat. I am a dooer. I dont know if you read my last update or not. If it helps keep an open file at pontiac. Here is the number 800-462-8782. Get them involved with the dealership and you dont have to do it. They will take over at this point. My plan starting next week is to call pontiac every day and make an update. They have to update your file like it or not!!!!! Every day!!!!!!!!! Just say your problem is STILL UNRESOLVED. I am sending copies of all of these complaints on a weekly basis to pontiac not the dealership. I am updating these complaints with the new ones. I am gonna bug them to death. I dont know if it will help or not but it gives me a little hope. If you havent read my last blog read it and inform your dealership it is not any of these problems. As of now pontiac is sending an engineer out to the dealership to see if they can see something a TRAINED TECHNICIAN at the dealership cant. I am not giving up with this. I will get it resolved. When I do everyone is going to hear about my experiences with pontiac and my 06 Torrent. Hang in there. Write down conversations and get names. I think we are all gonna need this when we go for the Lemon Law.
    Brenda
  • So, after a few months of having no problems.... coincidently following my last post~! lol... my 07 Torrent is back at it again. I was stranded in an empty mall parking lot @ 1am because the thing wouldn't start. I had to call for a tow... because the dealership wants it towed directly to them when the problem happens so they can attempt to solve it... however, i was so pissed and COLD by that point, I just had the guy jump start it. I know that if I had waited and gotten it towed, the car would have started by the time the mechanics looked at it... happens EVERY single time. No one can figure out what the heck is wrong, but keep telling me to be patient... right. I didn't spend money on a new vehicle to have it be unreliable. I even went as far as to telling the dealership to keep it until it was fixed, but they refused to do so. I've had this problem for 2 years, and I am just tired if it. As I am sure u all are too! :mad:
    Well... hopefully, it doesn't happen again soon!
  • U know its quit a shame that we all have to wonder if our Torrent is even gonna start in the morning or after a shoppin spree or if we're gonna make it on time to pick up our kids from school ..... After all my cursing at the dealership i at least got them to refund me one of my monthly payments.... cuz i told them i wont even drive the thing cuz it very unreliable..which is true.... But to be 100% honest i would rather them keep the money there giving me for the monthly payment and just have them fix it... so i never hav to see them again. The stupid thing did it again this sat.... Outside of target.... It just cranked and cranked... I usually let the key go after a few seconds but im like 4get it..... Just hold that [non-permissible content removed] till it starts..... Maybe ill ruin something and they can finally look at something other then just updating the comp....
  • Hello everyone. I am working on getting my starting issues resolved. you can read my other posts under Brenda. Anyway I have a cool websight for those of you who are frustrated and have no where else to turn. Its the NHTSA ( National Highway and traffic safety administration. You can file a complaint with them in detail about your car. They are able to force auto manufacturers to repair or replace the vehicle. I filed a complaint today. They are the Government!!! Go to their websight or call them at 888-327-4236 or www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov and do it online. Online is better you can print your complaint. This might be a long process and might not work but its worth a try! Lets all complain. Hope it all goes well. Brenda
  • Wow is all I can say. I guess I should have read this before purchasing. My wife and I purchased our 2006 Torrent on 2/21/09. This purchase was our 2nd at this dealer. In short, she got a 01 Eclipse in early 02 as a leftover. Some months later the car developed white spots on certain places around car. We tried alot to get them to go away. So in the end they repainted them at dealer and they ate the cost. So we were alittle skeptical to buy here but we did. So today I get the wake up call that she had the igintion problem as described. Turned key and it wanted to start but wouldn't. 3rd time it started. She called dealer and they said to bring it in when it's good for us to look at it. I even asked the "salesman" who said he had a 06 if he ever had problems and he replied "no" I guess he just wanted the sell. So today he tells the wife that his DID it also. Ours had 29,027 miles when we got it and it's not been a week yet and already this...We may have put 100 miles on it so far. I will keep you guys posted unless I end up in jail which at the same time will also be bad as Im a Police Officer. I hope they at the dealership don't think I won't make a scene. ;)
  • Man I am so sorry for your purchase. All I can tell you is to read all of the blogs and dont do what everyone else has done. Its all a useless waste of money. The dealers keep replacing things that wont work. the first thing you need to do is file a claim with pontiac. Keep on them. Print out these forums and take them to the dealer if you have to. I have done that. File a complaint with the people I did last night. Make yourself known. Gotta go to work now. Please keep us all updated with your progress so maybe if you get lucky and get it fixed you can let us know and we can do the same thing. Visa versa with us.
    Sorry, Brenda
  • Hi again. I found out through pontiac that my 06 torrent was manufactured at the Oklahoma city plant. I am curious to find out where everyone else's came from who is having the same problem. If its not to much of a bother contact Pontiac and find out where yours was made. It might be a tool in our search for resolution. I can almost gurantee they were made in the Oklahoma city plant. Post your answers please. I am going above and beyond the dealership and a file with pontiac. I might need this information for leverage.
    Thanks, Brenda
  • The final assembly on my Torrent was Ontario, Canada. Interesting theory though. I like your file with the NSTB!
    Barb
  • Wife called yesterday and filed a claim. They gave us a file number and we told them we were going to take it in to be looked at. He stated he would call back next week to see what happens. For what it's worth it hasn't done it again yet. At this point after discussing it we would be happy to give it back to them. Ours was made in Canda as well. I'll report back when I have something new.
  • I also have a file wit GM and as of now its useless..... Yeah its a good thing to get them involved but all they tell me is to take it to the dealer..... when i do the dealer says theres nothing wrong and GM goes on what the dealer says and they close my file till the next time i call....... even though the last time it was at the dealer it did the excessive cranking thing for the service manager.... He tells me hes never seen that but because it eventually started after 4 or 5 seconds theres nothing he can do.....He said when it dosnt start after 4 or 5 seconds the first try then i should call them and wait wherever i am for them to come and hook a dignois machine up to it... Which is a huge waste of time cuz odds are it will start right up when they get there....or they said get it towed to there garage...... I kinda gave up at this point..... But trust me if it leaves me stranded one more time it wont be pretty..... Oh fyi ive called ALL over talking to different GM dealerships and explained to them my prob they say the Torrent does have an electric starter that i shouldnt have to hold the key till it starts.... From what im told just turn the key and right away let it go...... It will start...Which it does.... Ive been doing that for about a week now and havnt had the cranking issue yet... And ive been doing ALOT of in and out of stores ..... So ill keep everyone posted......
  • mmckeemmckee Posts: 3
    I HAVE A 2006 TORRENT, I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PROBLEMS WHICH STARTED AROUND 26,000 MILES.I AM ON MY 3rd BATTERY, IGNITION- THIS IS THE 3rd TIME,FAN MOTOR, WIRING HARNESS 2nd TIME, I HAVE 56,000 MILES ON IT AND THE WARRANTY WENT OUT @ 36,000 ALL OF WHICH HAPPENED BEFORE THE WARRANTY WAS UP AND NOW AGAIN. IT SEEMS THAT EVERY 10,000 MILES I HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN. THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT HAS BEEN ON PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME.. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW MORE THINGS ALSO. I HAVE TALKED TO THE DEALER AND THEN TO GM NOW THEY WANT TO PUT A WIRING HARNESS FROM A WRECKED CAR ON MINE AND CHARGE ME 200.00 TO 300.00 TO DO IT.AT THE TIME I GOT MY CAR WE WERE SITTING PRETTY GOOD I GOT 0% INTEREST AND PRETTY DECENT PAYMENTS, THEN I HAD HEALTH AND PERSONAL PROBLEMS AND OUR CREDIT DID A NOSE DIVE, NOW I AM HAVING TO FILE BANKRUPTCY AND THE LAWYER RECOMENDS ME SURRENDERING MY CAR, THE PROBLEM IS THAT I LOVE IT BEING A SUV AND I WORK OUT OF IT, IT IS MY OFFICE, IF I TURN IT IN I WILL NOT GET ANYTHING THAT LOOKS DECENT FOR A WHILE. I WAS IN HOPES I COULD GET THE WARRANTY EXTENDED TO 100,000 OR THEY WOULD FIX THE THINGS WRONG FREE OF CHARGE THEN IF ANYTHING ELSE WENT OUT IT WOULD BE MY PROBLEM.. I WOULD NOT EXPECT ANY THING LIKE THAT IF IT HAD NOT BEEN NEW AND I HAD NOT HAD ALL THE PROBLEMS I HAVE HAD...I DONT KNOW WHERE ELSE TO TURN. I CHECKED THE ALABAMA LEMON LAW BUT IT STATED THAT YOU HAD 1 YEAR OR 12,000 MILES. MINE WAS FINE TILL 26,000 MILES BUT IT WAS ONLY ABOUT 6 MONTHS OLD. I PUT ALOT OF MILES ON BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF WORK I DO. IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS PLEASE REPLY. I HAVE 15 DAYS TILL I HAVE TO SURRENDER IT. :cry: :mad: :confuse: :sick:
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Gosh, that sounds dreadful.

    The lawyer that you mentioned - is that YOUR lawyer or is it someone from the "bank?" If it's not yours, then I recommend talking to a lawyer who will be looking out for your interests. There are ways to avoid bankruptcy and you should exhaust all of those possibilities before throwing in the towel.

    Good luck!

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • dahlbpmndahlbpmn Posts: 12
    Call GM customer service and see if they will work with you. I am sorry you are having such a hard time.
  • brendavbrendav Posts: 11
    ATTENTION ALL 2006 AND 2007 PONTIAC TORRENT OWNERS WHO ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH STARTING ISSUES. THIS MESSAGE IS FOR YOU.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I have a 2006 torrent and bought it brand new. At 20,000 miles I started having issues with the starter dragging and the car not starting. I have had it in several times to the dealership. They have replaced starters, fuel pumps, ignition switches, cleaned carbon buildup, tightened some wire (not sure which one), rebuilt the new ignition, and various minor fixits. None of them have worked. I know you guys are just as frustrated as I am. Well i might have hope!!!!! I followed another persons advice on this forum and involved Pontiac. Long story short and several visits being without my car for a total of 26 days over the last year and a half. I might have good news. Here are the dealers exact words as to what they did on my car. (((((( inspected for intermittent crank no start. Performed vehicle system check. No DTC,S cannot duplicate (no suprise to me) Called TAC opened case was advised to monitor throttle position during no start and inspect throttle body for coking, binding. During no start condition found that if throttle was depressed lightly vehicle would start. Inspected throttle body and found throttle blade was binding. Replaced throttle body. Rechecked and found Ok Defective throttle body)))))))) That is word for word on the service order. Now, my car usually acts up within a day of getting it out of the shop. I have had no problems so far. Its been over a week. I will keep you guys posted with my progress. I am trying to feel like its fixed but I have my guard up. Anyway for those of you who are out of warranty the cost for this repair is approximately $284.52. This is what is on my invoice. They waived my extended warranty deductible. How nice of them. They said this problem was posted on their service department websight. Oh yeah they also informed that the 06 and 07 Chevy Equinox are doing the same thing to. Well gotta go for now. I will keep you posted as to if my problem starts up again. Then we will go from there. Good luck everyone. Brenda
  • brendavbrendav Posts: 11
    Oh yea this is to finish up message 53 You might not need this info but the part number is 000 012589308
    fp- 012589308

    Fail code 6C

    See ya, Brenda
  • dahlbpmndahlbpmn Posts: 12
    That is awesome! Keep your fingers crossed. The "fix" does sound a little different that what others have tried. Thanks for the update. jBarb
  • reikipathreikipath Posts: 1
    we bought our 2006 torrent brand new...two months and 2000 miles after the warranty expires (of course!) we are having the starting issues....initially it just continued to crank when you turned the key, even though it was already running. Then it stopped altogether. After calling the dealer and being told it was either the started motor or alternator and would be $800 minimum, we took it to an independent shop. It cost $160 for a new battery. Now a week later the indicators have stopped working...both...at the same time....and the cd player won't work. It all seems like there is some kind of electrical issue. I don't want to start putting lots of cash into this vehicle if problems are going to continue and am now at a loss as to what to do next.
  • brendavbrendav Posts: 11
    Hey how are ya? Well I am pleased to tell you the problem has been solved. I have had no starting issues since March of 2009. Read message # 53 for instructions on what I had done. I hope this works for you as well.
    See ya, Brenda Valentine
  • brendavbrendav Posts: 11
    Hi I am sorry you are having a problem with your torrent. I had the same problem for over a year and a half. I finally found someone to fix it. Look at message #53 that I posted and it will tell you what I had done. My problems were exactly like yours. To a tee. The problem is the throttle cable. The starter will keep turning over until the engine starts. If the throttle cable is not getting the engine started the starter will in turn keep going until the cable lets the car start. I know it sounds funny but it worked for me. My car is running great since March. You can read more of my prior messages and see what I went through. Good luck to you. On the message 53 I included part numbers and everything. I typed it right off of my work order from the dealership. I hope it workd for you. Let me know how it all turns out. Brenda
  • escho83escho83 Posts: 1
    Hi all,
    We have had our 06 Torrent since May of 06 and have had a lot of the previous mentioned sticking problems. Had the ignition cylinder replaced multiple times. Fixed the problem. Now we are having a new problem. The car will not even try to turn over. It just clicks, and the cd player tries to shuffle the cds (even though there are none in there) and each time the problem occurs the clock resets. Taken it to the dealer 4 times in the past two weeks, with multiple things changed and it is still doing it. Any suggestions other than contacting GM? Thanks.
  • brendavbrendav Posts: 11
    Hi sorry you are having these problems. Unfortunately mine is starting up again. I am having starting issues. I think these cars are garbadge and need to be recalled. Since Pontiac is having financial issues I think we are pretty much on our own. These little problems will continue to drive us crazy until our warranties run out and were out of luck and on our own. As you can tell I am very frustrated with my torrent. I dont have any suggestions for you other than count to ten when it happens and try to honor God in your actions. Even though you want to throw a fit. I am in the same boat you are. So sorry I am not much help. Good Luck.
    Brenda
  • ava_bava_b Posts: 2
    Hopefully I won't jinx myself by posting this since it works everytime and I no longer feel nervous to start my car. I hope this works for others as well.

    Instead of just cranking it right up, I turn the key to the what I am guessing would be the "on" or "run" position. It's the line past Accessory and before crank. Then I listen for the fuel pump to kick on... it's a little whine that just lasts a few seconds and then I turn the key to start but I just turn it and immediately let it go. It has started faithfully every time.

    My problem was that the car would crank for a long time and usually stall and I would have to keep doing it until it started. It didn't ever do it when it was cold, but rather when it was warm... like if I went into a store for a few minutes and came back out. Since I started letting the fuel pump kick on and don't hold the key to crank, it starts right up. (Just turning the key to crank and letting it go didn't work. Only when I let the fuel pump kick on, does it work... maybe it is a fuel pump issue?)

    The one time I didn't do this in the last month, it acted up, so I think there might be something to it.

    Try it out and let me know.

    Good luck.
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