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Car Commercials, the good, the bad, and the annoying!

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    The styling makes it look like more than it is. Don't know if I could warm up to the gauges - I like them to be simple, but for as cheap as a Sonic could probably be had right now, you could get one and a nice bike for the price of a normal car.
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    Don't know if I could warm up to the gauges - I like them to be simple, but for as cheap as a Sonic could probably be had right now, you could get one and a nice bike for the price of a normal car.

    Yeah, the gauges would take some getting used to.

    The Sonic I drove was an LT model and stickered for exactly $17K. With discounts and rebates, figure another grand or so off.

    I prefer the LTZ trim level myself, which starts to nudge $20K.

    With the average vehicle transaction now in excess of $30K, you could get a pretty decent car and a bike for that amount.

    I'm hoping the Fiesta ST comes in with a sticker in the low 20's.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    I am not sure what trim my sister's car is, but she got it out the door just under 18K...all I remember is that it has foglights, wheels, and bluetooth. As far as I know, no problems in 3.5 months on the road.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    People who haven't been in the market for, say, 7 years or so...they will experience some serious sticker shock.

    Compact hatches are high 20s, loaded mainstream sedans break 30 easily, and an entry lux sedan hits 50k frighteningly quickly with options.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    Hell, 3ers can get to just about 60K now, and you can load a Cayman up to like 110K. Inflation is out there.
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 894
    What the Big 3 are saving with the two-tier labor contracts sure isn't being passed on to buyers. I bought a new Mustang Premium over summer, fairly loaded with the 305 hp six and 6 speed for 26k, didn't think that was too bad. My buddy just got one of the leftover Silverado's before the new ones arrive, helluva nice truck for around 28k.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    Hell, 3ers can get to just about 60K now, and you can load a Cayman up to like 110K.

    Saw some tests in car magazines with BMWs with a 4 cyl engine listing into the 40's. Who is so dumb to buy a 4 cyl car for over $40K.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,885
    Get used to it....

    4 cyl turbos are the "new 6-cylinder"..

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  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    Get used to it....

    4 cyl turbos are the "new 6-cylinder"..


    Yep, I stopped at the Cadillac dealer over the weekend. The 2.0L turbo ATS' are stickering in the mid to high 40's. Even the 2.5L "base" engine (direct injection, 202HP) was in the mid 30's.

    Yet, if you head over to the 'prices paid' forum, folks are still buying AltiCamCordatas for $20-23K.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,199
    edited December 2012
    Who is so dumb to buy a 4 cyl car for over $40K.

    Audi has been doing well with that plan for quite some time.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    It's almost 2013, you know. Many modern 4cyls can outperform old 6cyl cars, if not V8s. The future is now.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,616
    My favorite part was when you heard someone's helmet 'clunk' off a side window.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,616
    When you look at all the improvements to the new Silverado, other than engine changes, I think they finally caught up to the 2005 F Series.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Many modern 4cyls can outperform old 6cyl cars, if not V8s

    In some ways better, but there are trade offs.

    Fuel efficiency and torque are definitely there, but most give up smoothness and responsiveness, particularly in the case of BMW going from a silky inline six to a shaky 2.0T. Start/stop on that thing shakes the whole car.

    We may be a generation or so away from then tuning in more smoothness, but even then the instant throttle response won't quite be there. I just remember a short autocross course in a 330i and how you could use the throttle to accelerate and even slow gradually (engine compression) to get through the course, with a RIGHT-NOW response to that throttle that you just can't get from the new engine.

    When big engines are gone we'll still be nostalgic for larger displacement engines.

    We'll also miss hydraulic power steering when they're all electric. Heck, Miata owners complain that the no power assist option is gone! :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    GM put DI on all the engines, plus they got modern transmissions, too.

    I think it's the styling that seems too similar to many folks.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    The start/stop can be disabled though. And make those engines diesel, and get enough torque to smooth things out a bit. There's no complete replacement for displacement, but the writing is on the wall. Even the highlines are moving downward in size.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Oh, it's inevitable, no question.

    Diesels lag a bit also.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    http://bcove.me/0qy22zw6

    A little low budget but kinda neat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    This is the Swagger Wagon's mom's naughty sister from England:

    http://youtu.be/eNVde5HPhYo

    A little racy...
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,272

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,616
    I know that and that's why I excluded the power train upgrades.
    My '02 Explorer has an aluminum hood, so it's not exactly something new, except for maybe GM.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Brilliant. Best Holiday themed ad this year.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    To think, at one time, the Volvo could have simply been represented by the block of ice, not much carving needed :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    For a wagon, just one shorter block at the front!

    Then just slap on a logo, voila! :D
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 1,773
    We all know the first Lexus was a blatant ripoff of the S-series Benz. But was their "December to Remember" ad campaign also a ripoff? Judge for yourself:

    http://www.howtobuildatimemachine.com/image/38501304355

    2011 Buick Regal Turbo, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hopefully someone has a copyright and all Xmas ads are banned.

    To be honest there were far fewer of those this year, though. I saw the Infiniti ad a lot more, with the G and the BMW, plus the one with the snow flakes.

    G37 lease for $299! Wow! Not G25, either. They should get good numbers for December.

    The ES was around ~$400 around here.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,567
    It is still the "holiday season", so we have another week or so of ads to contend with.

    G is ancient and replaced soon, I would expect even better deals as the old model is closed out, too. The Infiniti ad with the million dollar cabin was played a lot here.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think they dropped the G25, so that's a bargain for the big V6, especially if you're not a fan of the small turbos that are taking over the segment.

    Still wondering if the next IS will be FT86 based and come with a 2.0T, or use the GS platform (shortened).
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