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2010 Toyota 4Runner redesign

prypry Posts: 1
A dealer told me the 4Runner was being redesigned for next year. When are we going to see some pictures?
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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    I kinda doubt it. Sales are down and still falling - this is a doomed segment. Plus they let the last model run for seven years with only minor revisions, whereas this one has only run for five so far. There may be a new model for model year 2010, would be my guess.

    Besides, you're right, we would have heard something about it by now. And Toyota is slowing down development of ALL its new models right now to get quality control back in line.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • blackdog4blackdog4 Posts: 67
    There may be a market for a new, larger 4Runner. I have a 2002 Sequoia and will be looking for a new SUV with off road capability. As the 2008 Sequoia will be based on the new larger Tundra platform, the speculation is that the redesigned Sequoia will also be larger. My present Sequoia is a little larger than I need, but I can squeak it into my garage. I won't buy a larger Sequoia. What I would really like is a 4Runner that would be Ford Explorer size, and have 2nd and 3rd row seats that fold flat.
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    The dealer was wrong. If it was being redesigned for next year, we'd already be seeing pictures for it.

    The current Land Cruiser is a much older design and it is only now being replaced in the 2008 model year. There have been spy photos of the new Land Cruiser floating around for six months plus.

    The 4Runner is a much newer design than the current Land Cruiser and it recently had a mild refresh, so it is going to be a couple years before we see a new one.
  • "The dealer was wrong. If it was being redesigned for next year, we'd already be seeing pictures for it. "

    Wrong. The spy shots are now on the web. It looks like the new 4runner will come out as a 2009 model. This is a year later than my dealer told me 12 months ago.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    they downsize it. The '02 was just right for size. And if it were a little less porky it might drink a little less gas too. Please, Toyota, dump the third row!

    Hey, so where are these spy pics on the web? Links please! We all want to see! :-)

    Edit...here's a link to a couple of pics. This thing kinda looks like a stretch Land Cruiser, can this really be the next 4Runner? Why bother even having a Sequoia then?

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-4runner-lexus-gx-future.html

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • tsu670tsu670 Posts: 293
    Another rumor is the new gen 4Runner will be assembled in the U.S.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    I heard that too. That would be good for Toyota I guess, although I kinda like the fact that they still come from Japan today. I remember years and years ago, the first Runner I ever had had a little sticker in the back window that said "Made in Japan. To be removed by consumer only".

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • tsu670tsu670 Posts: 293
    I wonder if the rising value of the yen against the dollar might have something to do with moving production to the U.S. Our 4Runner was built and priced in Aug. '07 when the dollar was fetching 124 yen.

    As of this posting five months later our greenback is worth only 107 yen, almost a 14% drop.
  • junglejimjunglejim Posts: 18
    The 4Runner will be redesigned for the 2010 model year (it will come out Fall of 2009). Toyota has been running all of their SUV's 7 years.

    Rumors have it that the next generation will be assembled in the U.S.. I wouldn't be surprised if it took Toyota longer to get it geared up for production in the U.S., thus pushing it back to 2011. There are other vehicles higher on Toyota's priority list.
  • the new 4runner has been out in Indinesia for most of this year already...known as the Frontrunner....It looks like a cross between the new Acura MDX and the current 4runner..nice care........why the delay for the US markets???

    over there you can also get it in a stick and 2.7
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    Rumor is, the next-gen Runner might not be sold in the U.S....

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • I hope that is not the case. I have a 2002 Sequoia. The new sequoia is just too big for my needs. I have been hoping that the new 4Runner would be a little larger and retain its off road capabilities.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    Well gas is pricey, the FJ is definitely gone after this generation, and I think Toyota figures Highlander will absorb many 4Runner buyers (which is indeed what it is doing now) and those that really need to tow will buy a Sequoia.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • "the new 4runner has been out in Indinesia for most of this year already...known as the Frontrunner....It looks like a cross between the new Acura MDX and the current 4runner..nice care........why the delay for the US markets???"

    Are you sure about the name? I just got back from Dominican Republic, and they had Fortuners all over the place there. I'm pretty sure that it is not the replacement for the 4Runner. The Fortuner is based on the HiLux pickup, which seems to slot between the Tacoma and the Tundra size-wise; all of the Fortuners and HiLuxes that I saw had 2.7 liter turbo diesels. Here's a link with pictures:
    http://www.toyota.co.id/cars/index.php?Model=Fortuner
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    I visited a number of Toyota dealers this week end. Most said that the redsigned 4-Runner will be released in 2010. I have heard this for the 4-Runner and it Lexus counterpart. Yet, I have not seen or heard any clues on what it will look like, other than in this thread. Anyone else hearing the same rumour?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    I haven't heard that rumor, and fully expect them to drop the 4Runner after its current model run ends.

    The option would be to decrease its size a little to get weight down, and give it a diesel or potent hybrid powertrain. I don't expect Toyota to want to put that kind of investment into it.

    Me, I wouldn't mind seeing it go back to its roots - a primitive truck closely related to the Tacoma, with some seats and a removable top behind the cab. And a fuel-efficient 4-cylinder. But heck, Toyota doesn't even offer the four with the Tacoma double cab, no way they would take that route with a redesigned 4Runner.

    I think 4Runner is done for after 2009.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    Toyota could simply sell the Fortuner in the US market since they are already selling it in asia. It is supposedily a world platform for Toyota. So it is a matter of changing the name and small adjustments for the US market ??????
  • "the new 4runner has been out in Indinesia for most of this year already...known as the Frontrunner....It looks like a cross between the new Acura MDX and the current 4runner..nice care........why the delay for the US markets???

    over there you can also get it in a stick and 2.7"

    I'm sorry but what you're thinking of is the Toyota Fortuner. It is the SUV variant of the Toyota Hilux pickup truck (Hilux Vigo to be more precise). In Thailand it comes with a 2.7 gas engine or a 3.0 D4D commonrail diesel that does mid 20's mpg.

    I'm sorry to break it to all of you but it is highly unlikely that the Fortuner will be the next 4Runner (Hilux Surf in Asia). The Fortuner is not built as luxurious as the 4Runner but generally speaking is tougher due to the Hilux frame etc. Also I speculate that the Fortuner itself is due for a remodel soon. It has been in production since 2005.
  • do you know anything about this new update 4runner?? have they sent you any specs on it or pictures?
  • i talked to a toyota dealer. He saw the same spy shots..said it looked more like a lexus..and besides these came out 2 years ago. I doubt that it is the next gen 4runner.
  • I really dont have much more info right now, other than its scheduled to launch in October of this year - of course that could change, but that's what was on the launch schedule I just received.

    In regards to the styling, I saw that FJ Runner at Gulf States Toyota's annual dealer meeting last year and a couple other shows, but they never said thats what it would be, just what a concept might be...

    I have heard that it is probably going to become more of a 'niche' vehicle with a sportier look, and with that probably comes less production. With Toyota having so many SUV types (Rav4, 4Runner, Highlander, FJ, Sequoia, Land Cruiser) each one has to reach a little different audience, otherwise you're just cannibalizing your sales. However, maybe it will be totally different - Who knows what it will look like!

    I dont think I'm really a whole lot of help right now. Truth be told - they dont let the dealers in on a ton of inside info!

    There's a meeting in Dallas later this month in which I might gather more information on it. If I find anything out that might be of interest, I'll certainly let you know!
  • donnie,

    thanks for keeping us informed. I too am waiting anxiously to see/buy the 2010 4runner as my lease on my 2006 is up soon. I have also heard Toyota may hault production on the 2009's and maybe release the 2010 over summer possibly? From a dealers perspective, does Toyota still plan on leasing SUV's throughout the year and also, I already extended my 2006 lease 6 months, any chance they will allow me to keep it any longer?

    Thanks!
    Brandon
  • Just got back from the meeting we had yesterday. I didnt get a TON of new info, but I'll share everything that I did get.
    - 2010 4Runner still on track to launch in October of this year
    - Will offer a 3.5L V6 and a 4cyl (very small % of production)
    - No immediate plans for a V8
    - Will be more of an Offroad "Guys" type vehicle in regards to styling
    - Will still be Body on Frame, and one of the last of its kind since many other mid-sized SUVs are going to a unibody (ie: Chevy Traverse vs Chevy Trailblazer, etc)

    This is about all that I could gather.

    Brandon, in regards to your questions:
    Toyota is still very much in the leasing business and has no intention of backing out of it from what I can tell. They are a financially strong company and Toyota vehicles still have strong residuals so leasing is still a smart way to drive one.

    In regards to your lease, you would need to contact your financial representative with Toyota to see about that. I imagine the number on your monthly statement would be the way to go.
  • RE: "I haven't heard that rumor, and fully expect them to drop the 4Runner after its current model run ends.

    The option would be to decrease its size a little to get weight down, and give it a diesel or potent hybrid powertrain. I don't expect Toyota to want to put that kind of investment into it.

    Me, I wouldn't mind seeing it go back to its roots - a primitive truck closely related to the Tacoma, with some seats and a removable top behind the cab. And a fuel-efficient 4-cylinder. But heck, Toyota doesn't even offer the four with the Tacoma double cab, no way they would take that route with a redesigned 4Runner.

    I think 4Runner is done for after 2009. "

    Optional 4-cylinder engine is predicted (limited supply) for the 2010 4Runner coming out in October!
  • Donnie,
    Thanks for the info, I am a bit dissapointed that the 2010 has no plans for the recently announced 4.6L V8 going into the Tundra/Sequia.

    I have the V8 now and love it. Any idea if its the same 3.5L V6 used in the Highlander & etc? What about a 6spd tranny?

    Sorry for all the questions, very curious!

    Brandon
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,693
    Optional 4-cylinder engine is predicted (limited supply) for the 2010 4Runner coming out in October!

    Whenever Toyota says "limited supply" they mean they will produce a few dozen for poorer regions of the country as a price leader. Almost certainly in 2WD only. I hope they have figured out a way to remove at least 500 pounds from its curb weight, or else that 4-cylinder engine is going to be more outmatched than the 22RE was under the hood of the 1990 model 20 years ago.....

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Im not sure about either. All of the info that I got was in my previous post. If/When I find out more I will certainly post it!
  • "Whenever Toyota says "limited supply" they mean they will produce a few dozen for poorer regions of the country as a price leader. Almost certainly in 2WD only. I hope they have figured out a way to remove at least 500 pounds from its curb weight, or else that 4-cylinder engine is going to be more outmatched than the 22RE was under the hood of the 1990 model 20 years ago..... "

    I'm sure they'll produce more than a few dozen! They want to sell as many as they can, so they'll probably produce them in a ratio (4cyl:6cyl) that coordinates with the projected demand for each. The projected demand for a 4cyl 4runner is probably a lot smaller, so they'll probably produce less. I'm sure if they saw a big demand for a 4cylinder with 4wheel drive they'd produce them. We can only wait and see!
  • The more I think about the 3.5L V6 going into the 4runner the more I feel confused. For one, if its the same motor from the Highlander/camry, thats a car based motor for light duty not offroading & towing. Second, Toyota has basically always had a seperate engine family for their truck based vehicles hence the current 4.0L used in the 4runner now. I can't see them targeting the "off road" guy group with a rugged looking truck on a truck/ladder frame and then putting the camry motor in it?

    I have a call into my dealer(i know the sales manager) to see what he has heard also and am attending the Milwaukee auto show tomorrow and will see what I can dig up.

    Putting a small 4cyl in this vehicle and a downgraded V6 with no V8 option seems silly to me?

    hmmmmm.....
  • Who knows at this point. Im just relaying the info I got :)

    Let me know if you find out anything from your dealer and/or the auto show.

    Would you like some little (not so significant) info?
    the overfenders on the 6cyl will be painted
    the overfenders on the 4cyl will be black.

    Again, just what I've heard...
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