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2010 Toyota 4Runner redesign

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  • odd1odd1 Posts: 226
    Looking at the V8 in the GX10 it has 45lb-ft more torque but less HP. That is approx. 15% more torque than the V6.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    kias dont hold any value

    Edmunds doesn't have 2010 numbers up yet but the depreciation for the base '09 Borrego is about $500 less over five years than the '09 4Runner base (both 6 cylinder, 4WDs).

    You can compare True Cost to Own for five vehicles at a time with the TCO Comparision Tool.

    Here's the '09 field of similar models compared (Tahoe, Pilot, Pathfinder, Borrego and 4Runner).

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  • SR5 2010, we all know the running boards are gone, the antenna is now a wire as it used to be in the ancient days, but I just noticed that the mud flaps are also gone. If you live where mud flaps are needed it's probably a $200 item installed from the dealership.

    I definitely need the running boards, does anybody know of a great option since the OEM parts will not be available for a few months.
  • The new 4Runner is rated to tow 5,000 pounds. The old V8 was over 7,000 pounds. It also about the torque numbers. The motor revs alot higher on the V6 to get the torque curve.

    I will take the V8.
  • Doesn't matter if your going to keep the car several years. If you traded after a few years, different story.
  • here's comparing the new V6 to my '06 V8… figures clearly show the hp gains and torque loss come at higher RPM… pretty striking, i think.
    2010 4Runner V6: 270 hp @ 5600 rpm, 278 lb-ft. @ 4400 rpm
    2006 4Runner V8: 260 hp @ 5400 rpm, 306 lb-ft @ 3400 rpm
  • I am not sure how manufacturers arrive at towing figures. Assuming the new 4Runner frame is not that much different than the previous generation, and the wheelbase being nearly the same, I guess these kind of figures must come in to play.

    Clearly, Toyota is going to lose some sales without the V8 offering. I am not sure how many would look at a Tundra, looking to replace their 4Runner.

    A few have reported that the results of "a seat of the pants" test drive indicate a slower "feeling" vehicle.

    Interesting.......
  • the consensus seems to be that Toyota is trying to steer people who really want the V8 towards the new Lexus GX460 (with the 4.6L V8) but it seems like a brain-dead idea. broadly speaking, Lexus owners are even less likely to tow, aren't they? i'm hoping they just made a stupid decision and make the 4.6L V8 an option for the 2011 4Runner.
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    The person who purchased the Borego, please keep us posted in the Borego forum. Many 4-Runner owner now want to take a serious look at the Borego especially those wanting the v8. Comparing the two would be appreciated from some who owned a 4-Runner.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,794
    Maybe this will help kick-start the comparisons:

    Kia Borrego v Toyota 4Runner

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  • g0lferg0lfer Posts: 14
    I would be happy to pass along my comparison after I receive the Borrego. I have been a staunch advocate of Toyota for many years but am excited about this car.
    Good luck trying to find a specific model however. The number of available cars is decreasing and no 2010 models are projected for sale in the US. Also, you cannot order a specific model from Kia; only what is available at the dealers.
  • Bitchin' car. I do miss my V8 in my 07, but I can live without it. ONLY thing it needs is an electronic liftgate.
  • embryoembryo Posts: 22
    i agree. definitely like this one better than my 06. the interior styling was a much needed update as well as the exterior. also miss the running boards but my dealer said they should have them in towards then end of Jan. i will mention as well i have had mine about a month now around 1k miles and no bugs or problems. runs like a champ
  • yassyyassy Posts: 70
    looks like dealers starting to negotiate and work from msrp. lol. give it a few months and they will be working off invoice. demand doesnt look like its there
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    I was shopping and have seen a number of the dark gray SR5s on the lots for weeks. I can not believe that I am considering a KIA Borrego, but on paper they better fit my requirements than the new 4 runner. I am a die hard 4runner fan (owned 5 of them) struggling on this one, between the 4runner reputation and the better spec Borrego. Any more new 4runner owners out there with gas milage results.
  • Absolutely love it..although I only have 100 miles on it. I ended up paying around 3k under msrp. I just emailed local dealers and had them compete for my business.
  • Getting around 16mpg all city driving. First tank of gas though.
  • I was at the local dealer in Ca and they were trying to tell me ALL Toyota's have "bulging" head/tail lights because of "some new law???"
    So at this point I don't know wether to be mad a Toyota, or the Government for the poor design on the 4Runner's lights. It is as if they designers went to overstock.com and found extra Camry lights to put on it.
    I must admit the 2010 did drive really nice. However, I just can't get over the seemingly 50 pt font on the buttons, the sissy looking tailgate with GIANT 4RUNNER logo, the booring door interior design, and the cheap looking painted plastic on the interior. I was really hoping this redesign would erase the bad taste of the previous gen. Anyone have a cherry 2002 out there ;-) Here is to another 7 years of waiting... :mad:
  • I have a 2009 4Runner SR5 4WD with about 6000 miles. I have been averaging about 20 MPG combined mileage calculating it the old fashioned way. I have noticed that the computer seems to show about 1.5 MPG higher than I am actually getting.
  • i assume that your 2009 is a V6, yes?
  • it's a real knock against Toyota that they've managed to bork the specs of the 5G 4Runner enough to prompt spec comparisons against a Kia. i think this artificial "no V8, no Torsen (except on Limited)" construct won't last a model year. or maybe i mean i hope it won't… :^)
  • I assume there is room for the V8 underneath the hood of the '010?
  • yassyyassy Posts: 70
    wow 3K off msrp! thats amazing. thats close to invoice.
    i too have seen many dark gray 4r's. looking for blizzard limited with 3rd row.

    Toyota can fit a v-10 under the hood if they wanted. plenty of room for a v-8. They didnt offer a v8 i guess due to last gas spike to $4/gallon. next time it will hit $6/gallon then the v-8 owners will be hurting
  • sgc58sgc58 Posts: 5
    I currently have a 2007 4Runner limited with the V8 and 23K miles. My lease was originally up in December but I extended because I wanted to drive the 2010. I got the chance a couple of weeks ago. I took the truck on the highway and was very disappointed in the lack of torque in the upper range. My 2007 is very responsive and the 2010 was nowhere to being even close. I also average about 17 mpg on the 2007 and that is with city driving. The 2010, I believe is listed at 18 mpg in the city. I believe the V6 vs. the V8 is all about perception to the consumer not reality!
  • hear, hear! unless you're driving an insane number of miles every year, the MPG difference between the V6 and V8 is nominal at best. like you, i have 33k on my 2006 V8 Sport Edition and get 17+ (mostly city miles) and was really disappointed by the lack of oomph from the new V6. the 2010 4Runner is even heavier than its predecessor by ~400lbs, so the paltry 10hp gain is completely lost. (plus, it has far less available torque to begin with.)

    i think Toyota's "2010 4Runner = V6-only" stance is more PR than practicality, and hope they come to realize their mistake and offer the 4.6L V8 (that's standard on its twin, the Lexus GX460) for the 2011 model year. then i'll definitely pony up and buy one. cha-ching!
  • plenty of room, because it was designed to fit a V8 from the start: the engine compartment is identical to the new Lexus GX460—which comes standard with the new 4.6L V8. the lack of a V8 in the new 4Runner was a stupid marketing decision by Toyota.
  • Have an '06 4Runner Limited and looking to add an '10 Limited. Big issue is the tailgate tray and since I am getting a bit older the lack of a motorized tailgate pull down. Has anyone figured out how to remove the movable tray? Has anyone had success adding a motorized lift gate to their 4Runner.

    Thanks in advance
    Paul
  • I am familiar with that trick, holding the fob to the chin actually works best. Toyota and most other car manufacturers deliberately underpower their remotes for liability reasons. The Toyota remote only works to 80 feet.
  • 14.4 mpg in the first 250 miles; 75% city, 25% highway. I have a lead foot.
  • I want to start my car from at least 200 yards away because that is the distance from my office window to where I park my car and I want a warm car into which to nestle my fat american butt. Tested it to 600 yards -- the end of the parking lot.
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