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2010 Toyota 4Runner redesign

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  • I really dont have much more info right now, other than its scheduled to launch in October of this year - of course that could change, but that's what was on the launch schedule I just received.

    In regards to the styling, I saw that FJ Runner at Gulf States Toyota's annual dealer meeting last year and a couple other shows, but they never said thats what it would be, just what a concept might be...

    I have heard that it is probably going to become more of a 'niche' vehicle with a sportier look, and with that probably comes less production. With Toyota having so many SUV types (Rav4, 4Runner, Highlander, FJ, Sequoia, Land Cruiser) each one has to reach a little different audience, otherwise you're just cannibalizing your sales. However, maybe it will be totally different - Who knows what it will look like!

    I dont think I'm really a whole lot of help right now. Truth be told - they dont let the dealers in on a ton of inside info!

    There's a meeting in Dallas later this month in which I might gather more information on it. If I find anything out that might be of interest, I'll certainly let you know!
  • donnie,

    thanks for keeping us informed. I too am waiting anxiously to see/buy the 2010 4runner as my lease on my 2006 is up soon. I have also heard Toyota may hault production on the 2009's and maybe release the 2010 over summer possibly? From a dealers perspective, does Toyota still plan on leasing SUV's throughout the year and also, I already extended my 2006 lease 6 months, any chance they will allow me to keep it any longer?

    Thanks!
    Brandon
  • Just got back from the meeting we had yesterday. I didnt get a TON of new info, but I'll share everything that I did get.
    - 2010 4Runner still on track to launch in October of this year
    - Will offer a 3.5L V6 and a 4cyl (very small % of production)
    - No immediate plans for a V8
    - Will be more of an Offroad "Guys" type vehicle in regards to styling
    - Will still be Body on Frame, and one of the last of its kind since many other mid-sized SUVs are going to a unibody (ie: Chevy Traverse vs Chevy Trailblazer, etc)

    This is about all that I could gather.

    Brandon, in regards to your questions:
    Toyota is still very much in the leasing business and has no intention of backing out of it from what I can tell. They are a financially strong company and Toyota vehicles still have strong residuals so leasing is still a smart way to drive one.

    In regards to your lease, you would need to contact your financial representative with Toyota to see about that. I imagine the number on your monthly statement would be the way to go.
  • RE: "I haven't heard that rumor, and fully expect them to drop the 4Runner after its current model run ends.

    The option would be to decrease its size a little to get weight down, and give it a diesel or potent hybrid powertrain. I don't expect Toyota to want to put that kind of investment into it.

    Me, I wouldn't mind seeing it go back to its roots - a primitive truck closely related to the Tacoma, with some seats and a removable top behind the cab. And a fuel-efficient 4-cylinder. But heck, Toyota doesn't even offer the four with the Tacoma double cab, no way they would take that route with a redesigned 4Runner.

    I think 4Runner is done for after 2009. "

    Optional 4-cylinder engine is predicted (limited supply) for the 2010 4Runner coming out in October!
  • Donnie,
    Thanks for the info, I am a bit dissapointed that the 2010 has no plans for the recently announced 4.6L V8 going into the Tundra/Sequia.

    I have the V8 now and love it. Any idea if its the same 3.5L V6 used in the Highlander & etc? What about a 6spd tranny?

    Sorry for all the questions, very curious!

    Brandon
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Optional 4-cylinder engine is predicted (limited supply) for the 2010 4Runner coming out in October!

    Whenever Toyota says "limited supply" they mean they will produce a few dozen for poorer regions of the country as a price leader. Almost certainly in 2WD only. I hope they have figured out a way to remove at least 500 pounds from its curb weight, or else that 4-cylinder engine is going to be more outmatched than the 22RE was under the hood of the 1990 model 20 years ago.....

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Im not sure about either. All of the info that I got was in my previous post. If/When I find out more I will certainly post it!
  • "Whenever Toyota says "limited supply" they mean they will produce a few dozen for poorer regions of the country as a price leader. Almost certainly in 2WD only. I hope they have figured out a way to remove at least 500 pounds from its curb weight, or else that 4-cylinder engine is going to be more outmatched than the 22RE was under the hood of the 1990 model 20 years ago..... "

    I'm sure they'll produce more than a few dozen! They want to sell as many as they can, so they'll probably produce them in a ratio (4cyl:6cyl) that coordinates with the projected demand for each. The projected demand for a 4cyl 4runner is probably a lot smaller, so they'll probably produce less. I'm sure if they saw a big demand for a 4cylinder with 4wheel drive they'd produce them. We can only wait and see!
  • The more I think about the 3.5L V6 going into the 4runner the more I feel confused. For one, if its the same motor from the Highlander/camry, thats a car based motor for light duty not offroading & towing. Second, Toyota has basically always had a seperate engine family for their truck based vehicles hence the current 4.0L used in the 4runner now. I can't see them targeting the "off road" guy group with a rugged looking truck on a truck/ladder frame and then putting the camry motor in it?

    I have a call into my dealer(i know the sales manager) to see what he has heard also and am attending the Milwaukee auto show tomorrow and will see what I can dig up.

    Putting a small 4cyl in this vehicle and a downgraded V6 with no V8 option seems silly to me?

    hmmmmm.....
  • Who knows at this point. Im just relaying the info I got :)

    Let me know if you find out anything from your dealer and/or the auto show.

    Would you like some little (not so significant) info?
    the overfenders on the 6cyl will be painted
    the overfenders on the 4cyl will be black.

    Again, just what I've heard...
  • I do appreciate your info!

    I guess I am hoping they just did not reveal all the facts to you yet :)

    I will see what I find out at the auto show tomorrow and hope to hear back from the dealer very soon also.

    Take care,
    Brandon
  • "Toyota has basically always had a seperate engine family for their truck based vehicles hence the current 4.0L used in the 4runner now."

    I agree. It doesn't make sense that they would keep this a full frame truck, yet put a car engine in it. The current V6 in the 4Runner is designed for extra torque. What good is a truck without the torque?

    Toyota is smart. It knows how to use "select" rumors. They just might want to get people to buy up all the V8's that aren't currently selling ;-)
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    Based on the rumours, the direction appears down the Fortuner route. Rugged and smaller engine are all Fortuner attributes. Really, all they need to do is slap another emblem on it and a nicer interior, and it is ready for the US market based on the indicators provided so far. Perhaps we will even hear about a manual transmission. Maybe they can go off the deep end and offer some bright colors too.
  • At the Milwaukee auto show, the Toyota rep told me he has heard they are seeking a more basic less "luxury" type SUV. They said the interior should be larger than the Highlander but offer less goodies and maybe smaller engine choices this time around considering the current 4runner was never really meant for a V8 to begin with. He also said it was postoned to around November of 2009.

    Looks as if they maybe want to combine some of the FJ's design cues with the current model and phase out the FJ to keep just the 4runner.

    Only time will tell, I hope it doe snot become to "rugged" , I need leather & heated seats this time around :)
  • I'm glad you got to go to the show and get more info! ...and thanks for letting us know.

    PS - if they don't have leather and heated seats, you can have them both added for around a grand! (maybe less depending on where you get 'em)
  • "considering the current 4runner was never really meant for a V8 to begin with". Whaaaat? Had there been any V8's available when I bought mine I would have jumped on that. V8's were hard to get early on. Many of us have our 6 and 7 year extended warranties expiring this year or next, and Toyota would be foolish to get rid of the V8 as most everyone I know with the V6 would get the V8 next time around.

    All in all, I was hoping the redesigned 4Runner would have rear IFS and a cold weather package like the Sequoia. Less road noise would be welcome too, as my 2003 version has horrible interior road noise. But there's still hope as nothing appears to be official, yet.

    Toyota also badly needs to revamp how they're optioning the 4Runner. If Toyota optioned the 4Runner like they optioned the Sequoia, I'd be a happy camper. 3rd rows in 4Runners are useless, and shouldn't even be on the vehicle except as a customer add-on. I think the 4Runner 3rd row scares away more buyers than it attracts.
  • My prediction for the 2010 4Runner includes the new 4.6L V8 but I'm sure it will be hard to find, at least initially. I owned a 2003 and 2006 V8 limited and feel that Toyota had a hit with this SUV. It would be very disappointing if Toyota dramatically changes this vehicle as I'm hoping to get the new model when it debuts. More of the same with updated interior and exterior would make a lot of 4Runner enthusiasts happy (in my opinion).
  • brandonWIbrandonWI Posts: 26
    donnie,

    Any new news on the upcoming 4runner redesign? I have not heard a peep, but curious to see if you have.

    Thanks!

    Brandon
  • alex1911alex1911 Posts: 1
    I've been holding out for a 5th Gen and I really hope Toyota doesn't mess things up by offering some of the things mentioned here (smaller, 3.5l as the biggest motor, less lux). I've got a 2003 V8 4WD Limited and love the thing, never a problem in 120k miles. I wish Toyota had sent out some surveys to long time owners to see what they would like in a 5th Gen.

    I've like to see a larger V6 or the 4.6l V8 spoken about, even better would be the 5.7l V8 out of the Tundra/Seq, that would fly.

    The size of the current 4Runner is perfect w/o being too large or small.

    If they start messing with it and putting a lower powered motor and a cheaper interior, then I guess I'll look elsewhere. I really have a hard time believing Toyota would downgrade the motor and interior.

    If they get rid of the powered rear window I'm going to be really ticked.
  • tangmantangman Posts: 127
    4-Runner enthusiast/customers are not a significant enough part of the market, so I believe that we will have little influence. If they cared, they would release some information to keep us with Toyota. Unfortunately, the only new designed 4x4 close to the 4-Runner footprint is the Kia Borrego. I own 3 4-Runners but have little hope that the 4-Runner as we know it will continue.
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