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2008 Mini Clubman

jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
It should be out in the US in a few months. I think it may be something great for people who wanted a Mini but needed a bit more cargo and rear seat room.
What do you think?

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    Me likey! :-)

    If I were going to buy a Mini, this would be the one I would buy, if for nothing more than those cool rear panel van-style doors. I hope they can keep the handling just as sharp in this longer-wheelbase model.

    I want to see a solid year or two, though, of good reliability data before I get too near a Mini. Which is about how much time we still have before the Clubman is for sale in the U.S., so that works out pretty well for me! ;-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    this is the car my wife wants sooo badly! (and that i wouldn't mind) she wanted a regular mini, but seeing as how we already have a two door, the clubman justified the concept of having a car that could accomadate four people more comforable than a regular mini and be more stylish than the typical sedan.

    how much more backseat room than the 2 door mini does the clubman offer?
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    The backseat will still not be that roomy. It will go from near useless for adults in the current Coopers, to cramped, but ok for short trips in the Clubmans.
    You will also have a bit more storage space behind the backseat so more than a briefcase will fit behind rear seat passengers in the Clubmans.
    There should be quite a bit more usable space with the rear seats folded down.
  • feliciatwofeliciatwo Posts: 68
    If they don't aren't giving us Tier2 Bin5 or Blutec diesel in the Clubman------I don't want it.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    ok? :confuse: no one is making you buy it.

    my wife saw the pics that were posted; she thinks is a substantial difference between this and the mini; she was ok in the backseat of the mini, this will at least offer good space for small children and car seats.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    I like the idea of a small BlueTec diesel - the larger Clubman could do better for mileage than the regular gas 1.6! :-)

    If not, then tier2 bin5 would be my next choice.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Can't really make out in the photo, but is that a 3rd door (suicide door) on the passenger side only?
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    A diesel for the US will be coming out sometime between 2012 and never.

    Honda is already talking about a diesel that won't be here until 2010 http://www.digg.com/environment/Honda_to_bring_diesel_V6_to_U_S
    and BMW Mini hasn't even reached the "talking about it" stage yet. In that case, it is a really long way away before you see a US spec diesel Mini of any kind.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Yes. It is like the rear seat access door on the Saturn coupes.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    will the clubman be a few hundred more than the base cooper? because the edmunds article said something about being more of a utilitarian and practical car than the back to basics 2 door hatch.

    if there is a signifiant price jump however, my wife would still consider a base 2 door. (we are interested in the base clubman)
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    But I wonder if an utilitarian and practical MINI is an oxymoron? And if they do manage to make it practical, would it still fulfill the MINI mantra?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    Well, the old Mini Clubmans sold pretty well. Tradesmen would use them in England when I lived there long ago. I think it will still fulfill the Mini mantra. It will only be a little bigger, the biggest difference will be the van-style rear doors.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    yeah, i can't understand why so many people were hating on the design when it came out....when the original mini's were available like this as well!

    we'll probably trade the bunny for it when it comes out...my wife misses having her own car, and right now i'm looking at getting an old honda or something.

    When will they be hitting dealers?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,695
    Oh, I think the Clubman is at least a year away. I have a vague recollection of them saying it would be introduced as a 2009 model.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    really? i checked the last edmunds spy coverage on it and they were talking about an early 08 release as an 08....
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I look at those van-like doors, and I'm thinking....is there any practical advantage to those doors over a conventional hatch? Did they just do that for the "cool" factor?
  • pjo1966pjo1966 Posts: 124
    I'm not crazy about the black bar that splits the back window in two. Other than that it's pretty cool.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    MINI Canada has apparently announced that the Clubman will be introduced in the 1st quarter of 2008.
  • newdlnewdl Posts: 2
    How about the real issue at hand? EDMUNDS leaked info on the Clubman before they agreed to do so. :mad: I would suggest you (readers) get your MINI info from another source since I would assume MINI will now wait to release information to EDMUNDS until everyone else has received and posted their information.

    Great job Edmunds....way to go... :mad:
  • stevecebustevecebu Posts: 493
    How about the real issue at hand? EDMUNDS leaked info on the Clubman before they agreed to do so. I would suggest you (readers) get your MINI info from another source since I would assume MINI will now wait to release information to EDMUNDS until everyone else has received and posted their information.

    Oh please! This happens all the time. You think Motor Trend, Car & Driver and a bunch of other mags never release info before they should.
    Lots of info for them to wade through every month and sometimes it's a legitimate screwup and that just happens. These guys are writers they are not not building stuff for NASA.
    If i had a $1 for everytime a car magazine released info a few days off, I'd be filthy rich.
    Yes sometimes it's on purpose but often times it's all those conflicting deadlines. Mini relies on their magazines so they won't kill the goose that laid the golden eggs. They might yell at them or put them last in the lineup but in the end most of this info was released 2 months before you read it. It's called lead time and ALL magazines have it. TV shows might need 3-4 months lead time or longer.
    Don't get angry and don't worry, it's not like Mini websites will not have info including Edmunds. Unlike the Mini dealerships which are spread out far too thin and no new dealerships on the way. :sick:
  • The clubman is on www.miniusa.com and you can build it to your own specs. The pricing wasn't as bad as I thought. They have changed some of the packages and the cost on the packages have gone up (mostly $100 / package). Have fun!!!
  • Has anyone seen any full tests of the Clubman? All of the reviews I've seen so far are from the first drive event in Madrid.
  • The Clubman is in the mini tradition.
    I lived in England in the early 70's and drove a used Mini that was based on the "Traveler" model which is very similiar to the new Clubman being discussed.
    The model I had was a "Traveler" without the side windows, no back seat, and the same dual back doors as the new Clubman. It was a Mini in delivery van form.
    The one I bought was an old used British Post Office delivery van. (paid USD $350.00) It ran great the whole time I had it, it handled like a sports car, I loved driving it, a lot of fun. It had great interior space, great gas milage, a extremely well designed car.
    I am sure the new Clubman version and the today's Mini will both be just as fun to drive, I don't think the Clubman will detract in any way. And for those who need a little extra space it will let them join the pleasures of the Mini world.
  • this is a nice looking car. you can find some pictures and a review at this address:
    http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/-mini-cooper-clubman-pricing-announced-ar5- 0569.html
  • I test drove and then ordered a Clubman today. The rear door configuration does create a vertical blind spot in the rearview mirror, but it didn't think it was that big a deal. The two split rear windows are fairly small, so it's not exactly a panoramic view to the rear, with or without the vertical split. It may be a bit of form over function (like the giant pie-pan speedometer), but the doors do create a fairly large and easy to access opening when opened (for a MINI, this is no panel van). I also think they're cool, which is the whole point of many things MINI.
  • The ugliest rear end ever put on a car
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