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Toyota Camry Hybrid vs Toyota Prius

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  • i am wondering how you got all that into the camry trunk?? there is actually less room in it than the prius my wife has a 2007 prius with heated front seats. my son bought the prius over the camry hybrid, in part, because more room for stuff in the prius
  • I had a 2005 Prius that I put 56,000 miles on before I sold it. I did not feel comfortable in the car for two reasons, and two reason only. The first being in high winds, I felt that the car was not solid on the ground and was getting blown around a lot. The second issue, I live in a snow state, and if I was taking off from a stop, and the tires would slip, the traction system worked by shutting off all the power and then adding it back in. This would scare the you know what out of me. I now have a 2007 Camry Hybrid, day and night difference. The Camry is solid, the traction control works extremely well. Got 45 mpg with the Prius, and getting 35 with the Camry. I will give up the 10 mpg to feel safe.
  • cesarzcesarz Posts: 1
    Try: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/05/reports_toyotas.html

    This is what is going to happen: The Camry Hybrid dissapears, the current Prius becomes Prius B, a smaller Yaris-size Prius A appears, and a larger Camry-size Prius C appears.

    From many sources (too many to list), the Prius B will be turbocharged (increased performance), goes to Lithium-Ion batteries, becomes plug-in (but just 7 mile range in full electric) and gets up to 100 mpg. Really.

    Hybrid versions of other Toyota / Lexus models will continue.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,845
    I would not expect a PHEV before 2011. They will need a good replacement for the Camry hybrid before dumping it. That could be a mistake. Not everyone likes the styling of the Prius. I guess we hide and watch.
  • lzclzc Posts: 483
    The article cited is 8 months old and the quote that the lithium-ion batteries are ready "any time" is not true, if it ever was. Toyota has had to postpone their use because of fire hazard.

    I didn't ready anything that suggested the TCH would be dropped. As hybrids gain in popularity, which they will, the number of models will likely increase. Few automakers drop a model that's selling well.
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    Why drop it? I thought I saw where Toyota planned for every vehicle in the lineup to have a hybrid option by 2011. I'm waiting on the Sequoia with a diesel hybrid system. Hope they are listening. I'll put money down now.
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    Let me lay out my case.

    As most of you know the '09 Camry Hybrid is already on the street and Toyota has a pretty attractive Lease Deal available on it (36 months with a money factor of .00141), works out to about 3.35 percent.

    I would either be getting a package #6 Prius or a loaded Camry.

    The '08 Prius while doing great is a "bit long in the tooth" and it's replacement is "expected" by most of the Prius faithful.

    My wife likes the "heavier" feel of the Camry as she feels it is a "more secure" ride. However my wife is a Real Estate Agent as well as a Grandmother. She puts on a lot of miles running clients around (especially in this market) and the hatchback of the Prius is much more functional for the "stuff" she hauls around for the GrandKids.

    What she really wants is another Honda Pilot, but one that gets 35mpg! As we all know that is not possible I would appreciate your input and suggestions.

    Thank you in advance :-)
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    The reason I did not jump on the Highlander Hybrid is due to the premium being charged for the Hybrid technology on the Highlander... in other words the $6,000 extra you have to pay for the Hybrid would take too many years just to break even to make it a responsible purchase... at least in my opinion which tends to be of value only to myself.... ;)

    If any of you folks that own the Prius or Camry Hybrid are Real Estate Agents, I would be very interested in your experiences vis a vie that occupation!
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    I had an '07 Prius, got 65 MPG on the highway doing 65 MPH, hated the car, loved the MPG. Winter driving absolutely sucked in it, and I am not one to buy new tires to replace new tires. I put 24K and change on it and traded it in on a Hyundai Veracruz, I needed the room for people, not cargo. I picked up a new 09 Camry Hybrid last thursday for a little over invoice and love it, so much better than the Prius. As far as trunk room, I had a few things in there and stuck in a 50 pound bag of dog food, 2 40 pound bags of cat food, and 5 20 pound bags of cat litter, and a 6th bag on the back seat floor. Overall weight was 330 pounds and the car handled it quite well, and still got 35 MPG on a very windy day.

    Speaking of wind, if you really want to compare the two cars, test drive both on a windy day with cross winds, you will find the prius can get knocked around quite well, while the Camry feels secure and hardly moves.
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    Thanks for the Reply acdii................

    My wife decided to go for the mileage and we bought the '08 Prius on Saturday.

    As we had to travel to find a "deal" we drove it home 680 miles and I did notice the car moved a bit when the large trucks would zoom by the opposite direction on a two-lane highway.

    Perhaps my wife will change her mind as time goes on... but she felt the ability of the hatchback to swallow more items, unusually shaped items, and the fact that she can lower the back seats one at a time or together made the decision for her.

    Personally I think the her daughter telling her the Camry looked like an "old person's car," may have also held some sway! :-) (although we have seven grand-kids we try and pretend like we are still in our 20's...)

    So hopefully my wife and her Real Estate Clients will both like the Prius!
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    If you don't have car seats, then you have enough room for 3 in the back. I have two little ones and a teener, so the Prius quickly ran out of room when the youngest graduated to a full size seat, too quickly I might add. Overall the Prius is a great car for most people, I on the other hand like a solid car, I grew up driving rear wheel drive large cars, My favorite was our old 1979 Ford LTD wagon. I put 300K on it before age took it away. The Camry I am liking it more and more each time I drive it, more power to get up and go and the traction control doesn't put us in jeopardy if the road has loose gravel or sand on it. I live out in farm country and drive 43 miles each way to work, most roads are beat up 55MPH lanes with no lines on them, and trying to get onto route 20 in the morning, sometimes you need the juice to get out and up to speed quickly, the Prius has had to make us wait for a large enough opening in traffic so as not to cause an accident. Once the car is moving, it gets up to speed quick enough, but turning out onto the road with the pedal halfway to the floor causes the TC to kick in, and when that kicks in you go no where fast.

    Whats funny is you mention a grandma car, my mom smashed her Grand Marquis a week or so ago and asked me to find her a grandma car. I did, a 2007 Lincoln Town Car. She loves it! Now that is a real estate sales car for sure! :) It would be save for the price of gassing it up! I got her a sweet deal on that one too, with 18200 on it she paid well under current retail, and got it for the price I could have gotten on a brand new Grand Marquis Palm Beach. OTD of a little over $26K. It is top of the line too! :shades:
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,786
    "Perhaps my wife will change her mind as time goes on... but she felt the ability of the hatchback to swallow more items, unusually shaped items, and the fact that she can lower the back seats one at a time or together made the decision for her. "

    Sorry I didn't see your post sooner. She could have gone for a Ford Escape Hybrid, which is rated at 34 MPG in the city. That is decent for an SUV, and the driver and passengers sit high up, which would be an advantage when cruising to view real estate.
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    We considered that, but Consumer Reports did not have much good to say about the Escape ... although my wife surely likes the sitting up high perch!
  • suzemcsuzemc Posts: 3
    any one out there who has small children- needing room for 3 in the back- one in a regular car seat, one in a booster and one not needing either?
  • hihostevohihostevo Posts: 59
    Well just a quick update in case anyone still reads this thread...

    My wife put 55,000 miles on our '08 Prius then we traded it in on a '10 Prius and put another 55,000 miles on that car.

    As they have made a significant change to the Camry's MPG we thought we would give it a try. So we traded our '10 Prius IV in on a Hybrid Camry. To get the color my wife wanted (White) our only choices was a base model and one with every know option... guess which one we took. Trade in amount was too good to pass up so we are now driving a loaded White Hybrid Camry.

    Interestingly enough the MPG reported on the cars computer is actually less than I calculate by filling up to the same amount on a level surface, then repeating the process and doing the simple math. Computer is reporting that we are averaging 42 - 43 mpg, while the math says 45.

    We have only owned the car for about 10 days and already have over 1000 miles on it!

    The car handles quite well and as you might expect as a much heavier vehicle it is more stable on the highway. So far we have been able to fit everything into the trunk and single fold down rear seat that we used to cram into the Prius, but the Prius is set up better for unusually shaped items with its hatchback design.

    The way my wife drives I figure it will probably cost us an extra $300 a year in fuel, but so far it seems to be a reasonable trade-off.

    As far as how the Prius worked as a Real Estate Vehicle for those of you that might be interested it was terrific! As you would expect the gas mileage made showing property (running people all over town) much less painful, but what I was surprised at was that no one... I mean no one no matter what their financial status felt demeaned by being chauffeured around town in the Prius. It she had clients that were very well to do they were impressed that my wife was taking a "green" approach to her business while folks at the other end of the spectrum simply thought the car was cool-looking.

    We had selected the IV model with the solar roof, which turned out to be fantastic here in Las Vegas. We would have bought the new Prius V when it came out, but they did not offer a solar roof option and you could only get the "smart-key" system (on all doors) on the top model 5 of the Prius V... which also gave you those stupid (my humble opinion please forgive if you disagree) acrylic panels which cannot be opened and simply cook the interior here in Vegas.

    If this thread survives we will post back later, but like the guy who jumped off the 100 story building was heard to say as he passed the 90th floor... "so far so good!"
  • ctlctl Posts: 123
    Thanks for providing a valuable review! My wife is thinking about a new Prius (she drives a 2003 I-4 Camry now), but her drive to work is around 46 miles round-trip and all highway, hilly at that too (need power to climb), so to me a Camry hybrid seems better -> more powerful for hills, safer (being longer and heavier), close in MPG.

    Trying to persuade her to Camry, although I know Prius has way more "hybrid appeal" to her. Will be great if you can give me your takes on this... thanks!
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    A hybrid gets the best MPG at 35-50mph type driving where the batter can be used, engine shuts off at stoplights, etc. For straight highway driving , especially with hills the gas engine will be pretty much running the entire time (except on steep downhills). What sort of MPG was she getting with the 2003 Camry I-V?
  • oz_22151oz_22151 Posts: 7
    We looked at both Prius V and Camry Hybrid.

    In the end, we went with Camry Hybrid XLE. So glad with decision, been 3 weeks since we took delivery of car.

    When you need it, Camry has the muscle. Been averaging 38 MPG, now 2nd tank of gas but I am lead footed.

    I seem to get better MPG while on highway than city however, wierd.

    I paid $30K exactly for XLE model, fully loaded to the brim.

    Refused every add-on they offered in Finance.

    5 year @ 2.49% with credit union.
  • ctlctl Posts: 123
    The 2003 I4 averaged around 29-30MPG (80/20 highway/city, she is on 80MPH normally :)). With the new 2012 2.5 I4, I would guess around 33MPG? hybrid I read is around 40MPG. Camry being more powerful, quieter and safer so far does not out-weight the Prius factor...
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    She'd probably get at least in the mid 40's MPG with the Prius with that sort of driving, so let's say 45mpg for the Prius, vs upper 30s MPG with the Camry Hybrid vs lower 30s MPG with the regular Camry. At 15,000 miles of driving at $4.00/gal, that would be $1,333, $1,579 or $1,818. If space is an issue, you'll find the Camry's truck (especially the hybrid) isn't nearly as spacious as the Prius. As far as cost, the Camry will be the cheapest, followed by the Prius, then the Prius Hybrid.
    Bottom line is to have her test drive them all and see which she likes. The Camry Hybrid seems to run about $3,000 more than a non-hybrid Camry, so it will take about 10 years to make up the difference in gas savings. The Prius comes in-between the two Camrys, so she'll make up the price difference in the Prius over the regular Camry in a few years.

    http://www.cars.com/go/compare/selectTrims.jsp?&myids=13502,12937,13469&selected- =3
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