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Toyota RAV4 Cruise Control Problems

ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
my Rav 4 has the worst cruse control that I have ever seen, and I have been driving cars with cruse controls for nearly 40 years and the Toyota dealer will do nothing to fix it, they just say live with it, it can't be fixed..... It will down shift with least little hill, sometime all the way down to 2nd gear, it bucks and jumps with the transmission jumping from one gear to another, I can not believe anyone could make a mess out of a cruse control like that... It actually knocks all most 5 mpg off my gas mileage, which is not that great anyway..someone please help me..could a person take the damn thing off and replace it with a after market cruse control that actually works????
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  • dtown40dtown40 Posts: 18
    Perhaps you should consult another dealer about your problem. Sounds like they just dont want to fix your cruise control. Also, have you checked to see if any TSBs have been put out on this issue? If not, you might want to check that as well.
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Thanks, but I guess I don't know what "TSB" means or where I would look to find it, can you help me with that??
    Thanks,
    Charles
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,041
    Here's a primer with a link to summary lists of TSBs for your car:

    You, Your Vehicle and the Technical Service Bulletin (TSB)

    This link goes straight to the TSBs.
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Hey thanks Guy, I will check it out... Charles
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    I have a brand new 2007 RAV4 Base 4cyl (6000 miles on it) that is doing the same thing. With the cruse on, going 60 - 65 mph, up hill it will start shifting in and out of gears, bucking and jumping.... Have you found any answers yet?
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Nope, I have not, sorry, apparently Toyota is using some of the crap that the domestics use to use, the only way to get their attention is to quit buying their cars I suppose, I did that back in 1985 Buick it was junk, been 22 years but after this deal I am starting to look at GM again.. I had the same deal with a 73 Ford, I drove it 12,000 miles and never bought another Ford.... The cruse on our Rav 4's wrecks my gas mileage, how about yours?? I can get 5 mpg better if I don't use the cruse, have you noticed this with you car?? where to you live? I live in Oklahoma where we have a lot of hills, so cruse is constantly shifting up and down, if I drive with out the cruse it does NOT do that... good luck if I find out a answer I will let you know, hope you would do the same for me.... Charles
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    I have an appointment with Toyota Service Dept. this morning. They want to replace a solenoid in my transmission to correct the problem. I will let you know if it works....
    Mike
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Hey Mike, hope this works for you, maybe it will work for me, if it does I will be back at my dealer again... This problem is the main thing I have with the car.. I use a power wheel chair and use the SUV to carry it.. I have bad leg problems and like to use to use the cruse control a lot, this one is a total pain in the butt....Hope to hear from you, thanks again.
    Charles
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    Well..... I had a call From the Toyota Service Dept. today... After replacing the solenoid in my transmission the problem became worse. Now they are saying they will replace the whole transmission.
    Mike
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Oh gezzz Mike the dealer does not have a clue of what the problem is do they.... well at least maybe this will fix it for you, sure hope so but let me know how it turns out will you, maybe it will give me some info to go to my dealer with or maybe a different dealer if necessary...I still think it is a design problem, that darn computer control for the cruse control just is not as flexable as the old ones were..but we will see...Boy I sure appreciate you keeping me informed Mike, I was ready to have a after market one installed...may yet... talk to you later thanks again, Charles
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    Here is a link to a video of my RAV4 problem...
    Charles is this what yours is doing?
    Mike

    http://www.carspace.com/videos/play!id=.5b3d3866
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Hi Mike that is just like the way mine does,I finally was able to open your web site.... were they able to fix yours???
    Thanks for posting that, Charles
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    They still have it in the shop. I am in a loaner car until they call me later this week. Maybe this will work, but everything that I've read on the Internet points to a computer related problem that deals with the drive-by-wire technology Toyota used in the 2006-2007 Camry and RAV4 with the 4 cyl engine. The computer directly controls the cruse control and throttle. I'll keep you posted....
    Mike
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    Yea,Mike,you have found the same info that I have, you know I retired from the Boeing company and they use the "fly by wire" system on their aircraft and it works quite well, so I don't know why they have made such a mess outta this on the car, but if you understand computers than it is not so hard to understand.. computers are not flexible enough for the cruse control, to them it is either right on or not and that just does not work for a cruse control and I can not even imagine a engineer not realizing, hell I did and so do you now, well let me know how it turns out, I am thinking about replacing it with a after market cruse but that ticks me off big time.... that stinking thing has cost them a customer that buys a new car all most every year, either for my wife or me.... thanks again... Charles
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Looks like it's "gear hunting". This is normal. When going uphill take the overdrive off. The little button on the left side of your gear shifter. The indicator O/D OFF will illuminate yellow on your instrument panel. I just saw your video on carspace and told you to take the car to the dealer immediately but after reading your post I knew exactly what you were talking about.
    :)
    Mackabee

    P.S. I've been selling Toyotas for the past 10 years and have owned 3 Camrys, 2 Corollas, 1 MR2, and the original Toyota Van LE which used to do what your RAV is doing until I was told about the overdrive switch. Try it and let us know what happens.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Charles, see my post above.
    :)
    Mackabee
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    I have the 2007 RAV4 base model with the 4 cyl engine. It has a gated shifter and no overdrive button. You just move the shifter to the left to take it out of overdrive. I have tried shifting it out of overdrive before going up an incline, but it has no effect on the problem. Thanks for your input mackabee.
    Mike
  • ces1938ces1938 Posts: 61
    To mackabee, I have the 4 cyl basic Rav 4 and it has the gated shifter too, and also it makes no difference the stupid thing "hunts gears" like you say, they only way the transmission will work right is if I do not use the damn cruse.... I have been buying cars with cruse control since 1970 and NONE of them worked like this, including a 1996 Camry, a 2002 Honda, a 2005 Camry wtih five speed tranny... this thing is defective either by engeering or by defect in the cruse or transmission... it is nuts, a lot of the time I just have to tap the brake so the cruse will kick off before the damn thing blows up the engine.... thank for the advice tho... Charles
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    Update:
    The loaner car they gave me is a Brand New 2007 Corolla LE 4 cyl. automatic. The cruse control works perfect in it... No problems what so ever. There is even more power in the shifting of the gears from a dead stop. My RAV4 tends to have some lag.
    Mike
  • mlmcgaheemlmcgahee Posts: 102
    Another Update!
    I just got a call from my Toyota Service Dept. They installed the new transmission in my RAV4 and states that it has fixed the problem. I pick it up tomorrow morning. I have my fingers crossed. We will see....
    Look for another update tomorrow...
    Mike
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