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2008/09 Subaru Impreza STI

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  • sellaturcicasellaturcica Posts: 145
    So, I'm a fairly youthful looking 31, but I thought I dressed pretty well, and I tried to test drive the STI and was told the dealership had a policy of no test drive without deposit. I'm not buying a car without driving it... and reading around, this seems par for the course with STIs. Should I be trying other dealers or will the same stuff happen? Should I show them my paycheck? I drove a 135i at the BMW dealer without anyone batting an eyelash, I drove a Cayman S at the Porsche dealer dressed in a T Shirt (ok, it was a Ford GT 40 Le Mans shirt, so I might have gotten some props if any of the salesmen knew anything about cars). I'm a little bemused by this tendency of Subaru dealers- I happened to be by this dealership a couple weeks ago, and they have the same 2 STIs sitting in the lot, now joined by 3 more- so it doesn't look like they've sold one yet.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    So, I'm a fairly youthful looking 31

    That's your problem in a nutshell. I'm 63 and look it. I had no trouble at two dealers getting a test drive. Oh... I also drove up in a WRX, so I guess they figured I was okay.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Try another dealer, even call in advance to make an appointment.

    Showing that sort of effort will prove you're a serious shopper and not just browsing for a joy ride.
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,432
    ... and not just browsing for a joy ride.

    You mean like Bob? :P
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    :D

    To be fair I think he would consider one in the future. Plus he blogs it so Subaru is getting more than their fair share of coverage for it.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    Well, it is on my short list—a few years down the road (I hope).

    I really think Subaru's (and Mitsubishi too with the EVO) policy on no test drives, except for serious buyers is a mistake. Their argument, that I've heard from many dealers, that they don't want the cars to "have a lot of test miles on them" could be applied to everything they sell.

    Here's what I've learned from driving the EVO and STI. Despite the fact that the EVO may put up better track numbers, I don't want one. It's much too hardcore for me. The STI, on the other hand, is a near perfect blend of sportiness, comfort and utility. For me it's a much better fit in terms of my desires and needs.

    If I'm putting down close to $40K on a car—I want to be damn sure I know what I'm getting ahead of time—and (numerous!) test drives are the only way to find that out.

    Bob
  • merrycynicmerrycynic Posts: 340
    It's been reported that both the new WRX and STi lean more in corners than their predecessors. Does the new STi lean less, more, or the same as the previous WRX?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Who cares about leaning, its the gripping that matters, and the new > the old in that regard.

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,652
    I doubt it. All reports on the STI iindicate that the handling is great. I haven't read anywhere about that car "leaning" too much.

    As to the WRX, expect the '09 model to have sharper handling than the '08 model.

    Bob
  • merrycynicmerrycynic Posts: 340
    I do, I agree that the gripping is more important, but never the less, myself, my family and even my dog prefer not to be rolling around more than neccesary. I love my '02 WRX, but don't care for the excessive leaning. I was just curious if the new STi would improve upon that aspect of my old WRX.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    FWIW, the 2009 Forester has a lot less body roll than before. WAY less than my old '98 Forester.

    I have no idea about the Impreza, but the new suspension, tuned properly, can corner very flat. Keep in mind the aftermarket possibilities if you find the stock springs too soft.
  • merrycynicmerrycynic Posts: 340
    FWIW, my trusted Subaru mechanic Dan Dean tells me that the new STI leans more than the older STI, but, less than my current '02 WRX. Sounds good to me.
  • djshane09djshane09 Posts: 1
    Go drive your mama to the market in your automatic evo x, wake up!
    Dude the STI secret price fully loaded with BBS wheels & Upgradable navigations system is about 35,000. Moreover, for the 2009 EVO MR , mitsubishi is not willing to lean back much on the price 48,000 crazy price for a fully loaded Mr.
    The secret price on the MR fully loaded will eat 44,000 out of your pocket for automatic dip s**t . I will pick up a EVO 8 MR over the X MR anytime.
    Don't even put the 2009 StI 330HP 320lb of T next to the MR. EVO AUTOMATIC.
    Yes i test drove the both cars and the evo suspention is sick but a true driver drives manual not auto. i have a 2006 350z manual 500hp 480lb of Tor and i will never trade in for automatic z even with a twin clutch. Anybody considering a evo mr x, is surely new to the game just get a gsr and make it into a monster... or do yourself a favor and buy a 2009 sti coupe spec c
  • merrycynicmerrycynic Posts: 340
    It all seems good, but, how about the rest of the car? Isn't a WRX supposed to be more than a dumb muscle car?
  • aaykayaaykay Posts: 539
    The 265HP engine is what the 2008 WRX should have come out of the gate with, at a MINIMUM, especially with 278HP Toyota Camries and Honda Accords running rampant. Some of the humiliations the 2008 WRX suffered, in comparison tests with the MS3 etc., would have been mitigated, if it came with this engine, along with a firmly sporty suspension. They can soften up the regular Impreza and the Impreza Sport all they want, but should have made the WRX a truly focused sporty product.

    Anyway, better late than never ! The only question is, why does it take Subaru more than one try, to get it right ? Once you lose the original model launch momentum, it is well nigh impossible to get it back.

    Interesting news about renaming the Auto WRX as the "Impreza GT" ! Unfortunately, without a 5-speed Auto with paddle shifters, this will fail again, like the prior 4EAT WRX Auto models, unless they spring a surprise and put the 5EAT from the Legacy-based models, into this GT model.

    Hopefully they will up the ante with the STI too, to maybe a 330 or 350HP/Torque engine, some better seats than the current "flats", and more tuned suspension like the EVO, to put some distance between the upgrades being put into the WRX.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Anyway, better late than never ! The only question is, why does it take Subaru more than one try, to get it right ?

    New to Subaru are yah? ;)

    1998 2.5RS = 2.5L DOHC, small fogs, whacky interior, different brakes
    1999 2.5RS = 2.5L SOHC, large fogs, white face gauges, different brakes, normal interior

    2002 WRX = same brake pads as the 01 RS, bad 2nd/3rd gear trans issue, no moonroof, etc. etc.
    2003 WRX = "new" brakes, etc. etc.

    Seems to be the trend that Subaru has, with the impreza line.

    -mike
  • merrycynicmerrycynic Posts: 340
    I appreciate the effort, but, the link doesn't seem to be working.
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