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Ford Expedition Electrical Problems



  • I have an 1997 expedition everything with it has been good until cold weather hit this year. I drove home from a trip one night and stopped just before I made it home to drop off some things at a family members home and the auto would not start back nothing worked no light inside or out nothing dead to the world. called for a repairman then he boosted the auto off and it restarted he said the battery was bad so I had it check , checked good so I carried it into ford and had the altenater check and the starter nothing all good. and it started fine for a few more days then it would not start one afternoon, I replaced the battery with a new one that day, auto starts fine but the head light has a pulse and they flash also the dash light do also and the heater blower motor will slow down and then speed up when the light go dim and then bright. this happens also if the engine is not running and you are setting still. Ford told me maybe I need to replace the altenator but would this cause the problen when the motor isn't running I might see that being the problem if it only happened while the motor was running. I am at wits end here I like this auto and hate to think I need to trade it off. I would think ford would know the problem or could at least checked it out on a machine and found it but no luck please help someone.
  • Thanks alot David.... I have been getting responses on that same problem, but it's god to know that someone who actually works for a Ford dealership is saying the same thus confirming all that has already been said to me already. :)
  • All my enternal lights including the windows do not work, I tried replacing the fuse, but it blows as soon as i insert it.
  • I have a 2003 Expedition that has a problem with the power windows and the radio not working until the vehicle warms up. I am thiking it may be a comon relay between the two that is going bad but I can't locate the relay that could be causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions?
  • My 98 expedition has similar gremlins. In cold weather (-10C) it stops charging the battery. You can tell because the voltmeter reads lower than it usually does and the wipers and fan motor are slow. It will start fine then as the battery wears down the electrical systems systematically shut down til nothing is working. The ignition still gets supplied but it stalls if let to idle too low. I can limp back home with absolutely no electrical stuff working and when I shut the engine off the battery is completely dead. When it is warmer out this never happens. I suspect there is a temperature sensitive connection that is contracting in the cold weather and casuing these problems. Took it to 2 dealerships - doesn't pull any codes ( it won't if you test it in a heated shop ) so they have no idea what is causing it.
  • My rear window on my 04 Expedition keeps unlocking itself, sometimes up to 4 times after I unlock or start it. I am also having sometroubles with the driver side door that won't latch shut. Does anyone have any suggestions for me before I take it to the shop?
  • :cry: I just had this same problem. My Ford F150 2002 (41000 miles) was completely dead overnight. Husband jumped it, it started: he parked it then wouldn't start. We got new battery but it wouldn't start. Had a mechanice come, lo and behold it started right up. Then after he shut it off it wouldn't start. Well many hours later trying to find problem, it was the fuse box underdash. It was corroded. The mechanic said there is a leak in the windshield causing water to leak down into the fuse box. $700.00 to fiind and fix now need to deal with the windshield. After reading many other blogs/messages it looks like a manufacturer defect to me. How do I go about trying to see about recall or reimbursement? Anyone else try? Thanks in advance for your help.
  • pgn839pgn839 Posts: 2
    Sounds like the same thing. As mentioned before, you can try to argue w/your service mgr but that will probably just p@ss you off further. The defective sealing process has been verified by the Feds with respect to the expedition however since the occurances have not posed safety issues, i.e. accidents and/or fatalities, they have decided it is an inconvenience, not a defect. You may want to look at and see if the F-150 is in the same boat.
    So far as reimbusement, there's always small claims court....
    Good Luck
  • anitarpwanitarpw Posts: 1
  • I have had the same problem with my Expedition, it was fixed by the dealer two years ago and no doing it again. They said the rain leaked into the fuse which caused my dash lights to turn on and off, the locks to go up and down, odometer not work and then while in work, the car tried to start itself without a key in the ignition. Only way to stop it was to disconnect the battery. Had the fuse box replaced and was told to have the windshiled resealed. I took it to the glass place and they said that was not the problem and they have seen many Fords come in with the same issues. Sounds like Ford knows about it but chooses not to care about its customers very much.
  • bimagebimage Posts: 2
    I can relate with you. I sent email to Ford through their website. My answer basically was 'sorry we do not have a recall on this'. I asked for reimbursement for the fuse box replacement and I received a NO.
    I did place a complaint with NHSTA but have not heard from them either.
    Since this problem in not just with Expeditions, mine is a F150, and have seen the problems with Taurus too, it is a defect in Ford products in general.
    I do not see why they are not reliable in making restitution to their customers.
    Contacting the BBB probably won't do any good either. Maybe a class action suit would be the way to go?

    I haven't had the windsheild looked at yet. Would I be wasting my money on having this resealed? What about the cowl? If anyone knows, I would appreciate your input. Thanks in advance.
  • cjmellcjmell Posts: 1
    My 2006 Expedition has been in for repairs for a week now. After shutting off the engine last week, I discovered a half hour later the radio was still on. I opened the door to shut it off and found the interior filled with an electrical smoke smell. I immediately called the dealership and took it in. On the way the dash went out and tail lights and turn signals stopped working. The dealership called one day later saying that there indeed was an electrical fire. They fuse box needed replaced and some wiring was damaged. They would call again two days later with an update. That phone call said that the fuse box was replaced and the electrical wiring damage was severe. They needed to replace the engine harness, which Ford had to approve. After asking what would have been done if Ford had not approved, they said it would have just been repaired. After talking with the technician, it seems that water had leaked down into the fuse box, causing the electrical short and the fire. I think this has been an issue for Ford before, but no recalls have been issued. Kinda kept under the radar. Fortunately, my vehicle is still under warranty and I will not have to pay, but it's been a week and the dealership still has my truck.
  • My 97 just did the same thing. I was wondering if you figured it out.
  • kelly57kelly57 Posts: 5
    multi-function switch was believed faulty, when I removed it, the gray plastic adaptor " E6DB-14489-DA" was not holding the wires and so was probably not making a connection (turn signals did not work). Believe I can get a new E6DB-14489-DA, but I'm not confident I can install the wires back in their correct location on the adaptor. Would anyone have a diagram or schematic available?

    Additionally, does anyone have a diagram of the interior and engine compartment fuse identification? Thanks
  • kearwoodkearwood Posts: 3
    I have a ford expedition that has four problems
    one being a relay relay but know nothing about relays. My expedition has the door ajar on the message center but no doors are ajar. This in turn causes the lights to not go out and the door locks to not lock automatically and when you take the key out of the ignition the radio goes off instead of staying on until you open the door.

    Secondly, we also have problems with the cruise control not working.
    Thirdly, the foot pedal that moves the pedals forward or backward.
    Last the cd player keeps the cd and will not release it I push the eject but it shows no cd but I know for a fact there is a cd in area 1 and a cd in area 2.

    any help would be appreciated.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    Our 2003 Ford Expedition has a few electrical Gremlins too...

    1:The 7-8 and 9-0 Keypad buttons will not work anymore.

    2:The Truck will not turn over. When the Key is turned to the ON position, it just makes a loud buzzing sound from the Glovebox and it will not even turn over tostart.

    3: The interior lights won't turn off. In the Computer screen, it says Door Ajar but all doors are closed. The lights soon go off... Then comes back on!! Eventually goes off and then comes back on and the cycle continues. At night, this becomes very distracting...

    4:Rear Driver Window will power down, but not power back up unless pressed from drivers seat.
  • jaxyjenjaxyjen Posts: 6
    My expedition started freaking out. Dashboard lights blinking on and off after turning the vehicle off and removing the keys. Also locks would pop up and down and interior map lights would surge bright to dim. This would continue until battery dies or it I drive it around. Problem is intermitten and dealer has no clue. Have been billed for the replacement of battey & alternator (1st try from dealer). And the replacement of fuse box (2nd trip to dealer). There has been no rain and my carpets are NOT wet. What could be causing this?? Also fuse for ondemand map lights (spot 24) - I have to pull that fuse completely otherwirse interior lights stay on permantly. :confuse:
  • kd4kmzkd4kmz Posts: 19
    I feel for all you bloggers on teh forum, I have the similar issue, but I trace it to the radio first, it owuld go off on its own and i can hear the realy click in teh fuse box, then I started getting the door ajar, soetimes with or withoiiut the dome lights comiong on or hearing the doors unlock. I have read blogs that say this is water related, I am dry as a bone in sunny Texas with temps in the 90's, so this leads me to believe that I either have a relay going bas or that the issue is in teh VSM vehicle security Module as there is a direct tie to this, I am just getting ready to pay this off as soon as the income tax comes in and will take it to the dealer, I am betting that it is one of the 300 series relays that I cannot find, or it is the VSM, if anyone figures this out before I spend the big bucks let me know, Ron Thanks
  • tammymactammymac Posts: 1
    2:The Truck will not turn over. When the Key is turned to the ON position, it just makes a loud buzzing sound from the Glovebox and it will not even turn over tostart.

    I had to replace my relay switch which is on passenger side below the glove box. It worked for months, then weeks and now days. For a temporary fix you can replace the relay switch. I am trying to find a permanet fix.
  • kd4kmzkd4kmz Posts: 19
    I just wanted to add from my recent experience and troublshooting. it is not always the window seal, it is just moisture in general. I live in very dry conditions and have to run the airconditioner all the time, it is the sweat from the airconditioner chambers that has been causing my problem where the moisture builds up under the dash in the cab and drips down onto the Fusebox assembly which of course houses the GEM on the back side very small part of the module, I finally found it, last weak when I heard the sound of frying like when water drops on to a hot stove, and at that point the Radio wentout and the windows would not work, I turned off the air and suffered the heat and let the truck dry out, everything worked, the very neck time I used the airconditioner after it built up moisure under the dash walla the problem was back, I am going to reove teh unit and see if there is a way to seal it so it doesn't let the moisture in, may be as simple as putting a little insulation of some sorts , once I do, I will repost the blog, maybe I can save allot of people moneythat Ford is absorbing from others Ron
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