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Ford Expedition Electrical Problems

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  • Help Please!!! I have a 02 Expedition and just the other day my radio stopped working while driving. I looked in the fuse box and Fuse 1 25A was blown, I replace the fuse it blows immediately. There is nothing that I notice not working with the exception of the radio. I removed the radio and put in a replacement fuse and it still blows. My vehicle does have the entertainment package cd/vhs in the arm rest area. Any help would be appreciated.
  • Hello all, new here. I've been searching for the electrical problems and found this site. I'm having some of the symptoms with my 02 expedition, it started about 2 weeks ago. First the battery seemed like it was not getting a charge, had to jump start it, took it to Autozone, had it tested, everything checked out ok. It started fine after I got it home, but the next morning it wouldn't start, the battery seemed to be drained again over night. I checked the battery post, cleaned, then re-tightened the terminals. Then the running board and interior lights started flashing as well as the alarm light was flashing very fast. I connected the jumber cables from the mustang to the expedition let it run for a while, then started the expedition disconnected the jumper cables, let it run for a while, turned it off, waited about 2 - 3 hours, it started right up no problem. The next mornig same thing it seemed like the battery was drained over night. I checked the fuse box under the dash no moisture, no corrosion, no burnt smell. So what esle should I look for or check besides replacing the fuse box and GEM? Like a few others have said, this will be my last Ford and hate to say it but I may look at getting either a european or [non-permissible content removed] vehicle next, since those don't seem to have these problems and if so at least they stand behind their product.....just getting frustrated with this. Any help would be greatly apprecieated. TIA
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Does that happen whether the radio is turned on or not? The problem is probably a short ciruit somewhere - either in the radio itself or in its electrical connections to the power supply.

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • I went as far as to unplug the radio totally and it continues to blow fuse. I dont believe the radio is the problem.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    Hmm. Interesting. There's a short in there somewhere but I am clueless at this point. Perhaps someone else can provided insights. Anyone?

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • I am new to this forum...I am having a problem with my electric locks.
    The first time the lock problem started it sounded like someone had set their elbow down on the lock button and the lock sound keep repeating. This went on for a while and the only way to get it to stop is to open all doors and manually lock and shut every door. This happened for a while then stopped now it is started again....

    Now the locks don't unlock with the key fob and the locks go only half way down and keep the sound of popping up and down with out actually unlocking and just runs down the battery. So now I recharge my battery re hook it up and the next day the battery is dead again???? (It also does it while I am driving)
    Any guesses??? My macanic said that the car was just possessed!
  • kd4kmzkd4kmz Posts: 19
    Sounds like you have a hung door switch atuator. If it is not broke you can simply spray WD40 in your door latches and open and close each door severl times to break down the deposit that may be causing the issue. This fixed one of my issues with teh battery draw problem
  • terakterak Posts: 1
    I am having the issue with my fuse #15 blowing, we've had freezing conditions lately- I replace the fuse and drove it for a few days and it blew again. I looked up your action number EA05015 at NHTSA, but it wasn't there. So I looked up any electrical bulletins and I did not find one specifically regarding my fuse issue. Can you advise if I looked this up correctly. I want to get the dealer to fix it for free will they?

    Thanks
  • I've posted before on several issues - seems everyone is having nearly the same problem effecting locks, radio, interior running lights - all running down battery.

    How many have communicated with Ford? Have any of you gotten a response? The dealer was no help - alot of "never seen it before" or "try this for $$$$ and if it doesn't fix we'll keep charging $$$$".

    Anyone contacted or reported issue(s) to National Highway Safety?
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

    There should flat out be a recall on these issues!! Ford needs to fix them.
  • kd4kmzkd4kmz Posts: 19
    FOrd answer, not our problem, your out of warranty, never seen it before, you said it. There is a TSB for an issue with the Expeditions with teh running board light issue. I have changed out my entire fuse block that did not fix teh issue with my radio going out, if you notice when the radio goes out the WIndows won't work, it is something in teh dash or radio, I am so close, when it happens a little tap to teh center of teh dash an the problem clears sometimes it comes right back but after a tap or two it stay out for a while, seems to happen less sense I unscrewed teh faceplate from teh DAsh radio area, so it is either a short in there, the radio, or a relay there that I cannot yet find. The schematics don't call out any. The radio does have an active circuit, you know when you turn off the key the radio stays on until you open the door, the schematic shows it sharing the same primary voltage circuit as teh windows when in temp shut down mode. Really looks like it points to the radio, but I have yet to pull mine out and see if the problem goes out all together. I hear oter people with other electrical problems where they pull the radio out, but nobody has confirmed the same as I that the windows don't work when the radio goes out. WD40 definetly is the trick for the door lucks goping up and down and the dome lights coming on and off, it is when the door release switch sticks and falses the circuitry. I have periodically seen the 4x4 light flash, there is an issue with some of teh 4x4 not published but well known by many mecanics that the slide sleeve sensor for the AWD causes this as the sleeve is not set properly in my case, it sounds as that sleeve gear is sheared, where I can drive it all teh way into 4x4 with no problem but the AWD will not engage, not enough money to resolve that one yet as I am out of warranty, so I just leave in in 2WD. BAck to the electrical isssue wit the radio and the windows, I would put money on the radio or a short in teh dash, just have not isolated it, for the all over electrical issues, my buddy told me the 2002 and 2003 he have seen have been notorius witha bad ignition switch, guess what almost touches every electrical circuit, so for those with that issue that may be a fix. I figured I got 152K on this rig, mechanically she got me this far, but amazing how all the bugs came out after the 100K extended warranty, almost like FOrd programmed something in. Frustrated like the rest of you
  • Wow.. Same vehicle same type problem. Only my car won't start cause it seems that the short is shorting out the electronic fuel injection. Take the key out of the ignition, Dash lights, AC, radio stay on. Usually this fixes itself in a couple of hours but today with it cold out too it drained my battery. I notice when I park my car on a hill and it rains I dont have this problem.. Seal may still leak but must be at a different angle so not to hit the fuse box under the dash.

    Who's with me on a Class Action Lawsuit against Ford???
  • DEBB2DEBB2 Posts: 1
    I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY 05 ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO THE CHECK ELECTRONIC THRODDLE CONTROL CAME ON, BUT STILL HAD A THRODDLE. THEN TUNED THE TRUCK OFF AND IT WAS GONE. NOW FOR THE LAST WEEK I HAVE HAD A COMPLETELY DEAD BATTERY, GET A JUMP START AND GOOD TO GO. PACK AT WORK THEN DEAD AGAIN. NOTHING WILL WORK. WENT TO AUTOZONE ALSO AND BATTERY AND ALT ARE PERFECT. TWO DAYS LATER JUMP STARTED THE TRUCK IN THE MORNING AND THE CHECK ADVANCETRACE SYSTEM CAME ON AND WOULD NOT GO OFF IT WAS ON. THEN SAME MORNING CHECK ELECTRONIC THRODDLE CONTROL CAME ON AGAIN AND I DID NOT HAVE A THRODDLE. TURN THE TRUCK OFF AND ITS OKAY. HELP!! DID YOU FIND OUT WHAT WAS CAUSING YOUR PROBLEM BECAUSE THE MECHANIC CHECKED IT WITH THE COMPUTER AND NO CODES COME UP PLEASE HELP
  • My 2004 Expedition turn signals work very infrequently. But the 4 way flashers work like new. I can feel and hear the contacts breaking in the flasher box under the dash with 4 ways on but when using the turn signals, they only click once in the same flasher box but won't keep going and the lights don't light. Ford said it must be the Multi-function switch problem. Does anyone know or can confirm this? I hate to replace it and it not be the problem plus I don't know if I can do it. I pulled the plastic steering column cover off the bottom of the wheel but the top cover that exposes the MF switch won't come off. I pulled off the air bag and it looks like I would have to remove the steering wheel. Is that difficult? Haven't done one since the 70's vintage Ford Pick ups. Hope same puller will work. I would love some input to give me confidence to take this apart. Thecruiseguy
  • Class Action may be the way to go!! I'm in!
  • My 2004 Expedition turn signals work very infrequently. But the 4 way flashers work like new. I can feel and hear the contacts breaking in the flasher box under the dash with 4 ways on but when using the turn signals, they only click once in the same flasher box but won't keep going and the lights don't light. Ford said it must be the Multi-function switch problem. Does anyone know or can confirm this? I hate to replace it and it not be the problem plus I don't know if I can do it. I pulled the plastic steering column cover off the bottom of the wheel but the top cover that exposes the MF switch won't come off. I pulled off the air bag and it looks like I would have to remove the steering wheel. Is that difficult? Haven't done one since the 70's vintage Ford Pick ups. Hope same puller will work. I would love some input to give me confidence to take this apart. Thecruiseguy
  • jefftn30jefftn30 Posts: 1
    I have a 2001 Expedition I bought used just over 2 years ago. Well, about 8 months ago it was raining and I turned my wipers on....NOTHING! I freaked out because it was a BAD storm. Somehow, (I don't remember how) I realized that if my truck is in either Park, or Neutral, they worked just fine. As did the washer sprayer. But the minute I put the vehicle back in Drive...NOTHING! Well, after a while it just stopped doing that, and worked just fine. Hadn't done that since then. OK, about 5 months ago I tried starting my truck and NOTHING! My theft indicator light stopped blinking and my truck refuses to start. Just like my wipers, after a while it just started working again. Well, it rained all rain and now it's cold and nasty and snowing, and guess what....BOTH PROBLEMS ARE BACK!! I am about to pull my hair out of my head! Ford replaced a fan motor relay saying it would help because the fan blower would also stay on after the key was removed and in my pocket. NOPE! No help. Can anyone please help me? I'm on the verge of lighting a match to this thing? LOL
  • Have you considered having your fuse box checked and your GEM module, that's what I was told was the problem with mines and I am inclined to believe that because I started noticing that my floor was wet on that side where it is located at. It only seemed to be like that after a heavy rain or too much snow built up on that side. I was also told that the main problem is that the windshield leaks water in and drips down on the fusebox and GEM module. Try looking at that and see if that helps. I checked ith the dealership and to buy new ones of them will set you back about 700.00 just for the parts alone.
  • kd4kmzkd4kmz Posts: 19
    I already replaced the Fuse box the 2003 does not have a GEM. mine does it when it is bone dry. I unscrewed the face plate to teh front dash i.e the radio cover, cluster cover it is one piece and my problem subsided, so something is pinched or shafed behind where the screws go in, that is far as I have gotten, but until I unscrewed the face plate to the clsuter it happened allot wet or dry. After I unscrewed it it hardly every does it anymore, I found this so far as when it occured one day I hit the center dash in frustration and eh power came back on to the radio and the windows started working again. I tried to push the cover back on as I never removed it completely, just unscrewed it and pulled it out of the holes, I had pushed it back in and noticed it started happening again, I really have to get the time to see if something is shaffed, :sick:
  • I have been having alot of issues with my 98 exped. Sometimes the rear wipers don't work or delayed starting. Now my radio will not go off after you turn off the ignition and exit the vehicle. My remote entry doesn't work... when you open the door it beeps as if I left the headlights on or the keys in the ignition...which is not the case. Just a bunch of weird things! So this afternoon I sent my hubby to go look for anything wrong with the wiring and we discovered water leaking behind the dash on the drivers side. Our best guess is that it is leaking into the GEM module and/or fuse box and causing problems. We are going to have to have the windshield taken out and sealed back in. Hopefully that fixes everything and more extensive damage hasn't been done.

    If you are having wiring problems I highly suggest taking a dry napkin or towel and running it along the inside bottom of your windshield (on the drivers side) while it's raining outside to see there is any rain getting in.
  • barb1877barb1877 Posts: 4
    We just bought a used 2001 Expedition. We've not had any problems with anything as mentioned in the previous posts.... however, twice in the past week the odometer reading will go off (just black) and then all the sudden re-appear (little green numbers). Has anyone had this occur? Any solutions? My job requires odometer readings for mileage, so a little concerned about it going off and on.
  • brett22brett22 Posts: 1
    Hey Barb,

    I also have a 01 Expedition that this started happening to. Did you find a resolution yet?
  • ken1340ken1340 Posts: 1
    I'VE GOT THE SAME PROBLEM WITH AN 02 EXPEDITION. ON TWO SEPARATE TIMES THE DASH BLOWER MOTOR WOULD COME ON FULL BLAST WHEN I TURNED THE KEY OFF AND REMOVED IT. PROBLEM WENT AWAY AND ABOUT A YEAR LATER RETURNED. PROBLEM WENT AWAY AGAIN BUT THIS AFTERNOON AFTER A RAINY TRIP TO WORK THIS MORNING AS WELL AS ALL DAY RAIN, THE WIPERS WOULD NOT WORK NOR WOULD THE RADIO WORK. I STOPPED AT THE NEAREST AUTOZONE TO FIND A POSSIBLE BLOWN FUSE AND WHEN I PUT THE THING IN PARK THE WIPERS AND THE RADIO CAME ON. I THINK MAYBE THE IDEA ABOUT WATER GETTING INTO THE DASH AREA MAY BE RIGHT. I THINK I CAN RELATE ALL MY ISSUES TO RAINY OR DAMP CONDITIONS. I HAVE NOT NOTICED WATER IN THE FLOORBOARD BUT WHEN IF IT EVER STOPS RAINING HERE IN FLORIDA I'M GONNA CHECK THAT AREA OUT THOROUGHLY. HOPE THIS HELPS.... AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT ALONE!!
  • barb1877barb1877 Posts: 4
    Haven't gotten a solution yet. Have had it happen a few more times. We're probably going to take it to an Electrical service shop, soon, so we hopefully don't run into some of the other problems we've read about.
  • I think if you reserach this on a few more Expy boards you'll find the answer, it is a fairly common thing. It can be reapired at home with limited skills. It is a solder joint that needs to repaired on the cluster. Local shop will probably be able to fix it in no time if they have done it before.
  • kd4kmzkd4kmz Posts: 19
    can you point me to the thread or send a link, thanks, I know it is under the dash somewhere and close to the drivers console area, if that is the cluster you mention, I had just started taking the face plate of teh dash off to start searching further, but if you know exactly that woud be great.
  • Try searching Ford Truck Enthusiasts. Then search their threads.
  • kikepizkikepiz Posts: 3
    same problems ... :mad: Can it be the computer?
  • If you search around the other sites you will find it is a poor solder joint on the cluster.
  • kikepizkikepiz Posts: 3
    Is that what makes the gear shift handle not to go from park to any other gear, and the stop lights not to work? :surprise: :confuse:
  • I thought you were following in on the conversation about the odometer. A shift handle problem sounds like an issue with the park interlock switch. Not sure about the brakes.
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