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Lincoln Town Car Water Leaks

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  • after cleaning away all debrie from water chanels pour some water over the windshield and monitor where it goes if you notice that it runs under your window lipseal it will end up inside your front passenger seat I am still trying to find a cheap solution the dealer quoted me 600.00 to fix it good luck to all
  • Pull up the plastic cover,passenger side,stick your hand way in there.I pulled out some leaves and other crap.So far,no more leaks.
  • ralkaralka Posts: 72
    The water will settle in the lowest spot ( wich is the rear floor pan under the rug)
    Remove the side sill plate in the front and the kick panel than pull the rug up enough to feel under the carpet. if it is wet than you may have one or all of a few issues 1. it may be as simple as debris stopping the plennum/air vent cover from draining 2. it may be tht water is getting under the air vent cover and entering the heater case. 3. you may have water entering around the heater case, or 4. you may have a cowl seam leaking ( the worst case ) . let me know if there is water under the rug
  • Well,the car was ok for a while but with this rain of the past 2 or 3 days in a row it's all wet inside again.Passenger side front.I pulled the glove box down and that filter type thing up in there is soaked.I don't know how to get it out of there or fix it.Any help is appreciated.
  • ralkaralka Posts: 72
    It sounds like the water is getting into the air vent assembly. if the water is dripping directly down from the hvac case onto the floor . the "filter thing" you see is probably the fresh air vent opening on the inside of the case. on the outside of the car is a cowl screen, directly under the windshield. this has a bolt on screen for the pass. side of the car. it is held on by 5 8mm screws in the screen side and 2 11mm (i think) nuts towards the center and a clip in the front. remove the screen and check the foam gasket on the bottom. if it is ok you will need to 1) take your 11mm socket and tighten the mounting nuts that hold the housing below the screen, than you need to seal the foam for the housing. a butyl based sealant is best like crest products "re-seal" . if you use silicon you must make sure you do it right the first time or it will be a nightmare to take everything apart again. than you need to take the cowl screen you removed and apply sealant very generously around the perimeter of the cowl screen gasket so that when you bolt it down that it squashes out especially in the rear part ( towards the passenger compartment). if the gasket is torn use the sealant and put it as close to in place as you can and seal over the breaks in the seal ( don't skimp on the sealer.) take a brush and smooth over the excess sealer so it overlays the plastic in the rear forming a good seal. also make sure you do the same on the inside housing under the screen. an acid brush is easy to work with and you can stick a phillips screwdriver in the brush handle to make it longer and reach the hard spots . I use a spray undercoating with a plactic tube to spray behind the cowl screen and let it flow over the excess sealant that you smoothe over. when you bolt the cover back down a start the two rear 8mm screws but don't tighten with one hand push the cowl screen down and hold it while you tighten them to compress the gasket and sealant as much as possible ( the mounting holes are slotted). good luck
  • Thanks ralka!I'll check this out this weekend.The filter behind the glove box is soaked!!I stuck a kitchen towel on top of the plastice thing under the hood by the windshield as a temporary thing to try and stop some of the water.I'll let u know how it turns out.Any shot the AC duct could be clogged>?
  • ralkaralka Posts: 72
    the a/c drain will only cause interior leaks if the outlet is clogged and the vehicle is running with either the a/c or defrosters on. there is a drain channel on the cowl screen with a flapper that does get clogged sometimes but 99% of the time the water gets under the screen and into the hvac box and than into the car. did you pull the rugs up and look at the bottom of the heater case with water running on it?
    remember there are a few things that can be happening at the same time to soak the floor. if the cowl seams leak you will have to remove the right front fender and probably the hood to access the seam which wraps behind the fender . happy hunting
    what state are you in?
  • I'm in NY.I haven't lifted the rug yet.Tomorrow is supposed to be nice out so I'll mess with this then.What is that filter behind the glove box??That's where it's all wet and most likely where this water is getting in.I've had a few lincolns but this is the 1st one in a few years so I'm forgetting some of the quirks and the fixes!!lol.Appreciate the help bro!P.S. haven't had the AC on in a while.It's cold out here now.Only gets wet when it rains,and always in that one spot.
  • Well,I took all that apart today,cleaned it out real good and put some sealer all over the place.Tightened the bolts down good too.What is that black rubber flap under the hood??The water supposed to run out thru that?It had some crap in there too.
  • ralkaralka Posts: 72
    sounds good! the rubber flap is a drain flap, they do clog up, but the water usually comes from under the cowl screen gasket. I remove them when i make this repair. as for the filter you see under the dash , the black grated piece is the inside section of the air inlet. did yu lift the carpet ? the rug can take a while to dry if it it soaked, and the padding / foam will hold moisture resulting in mold and odor issues. let me know if you have any more problems.
  • I didn't lift the rug as yet.I put some baking soda and a towel on it a few days ago when it was soaked.It's still a little wet.I'll pull that rubber flap off so it's all open there.Is there a way to open that black grated piece??Does that thing inside it need replacing?Thanks for all the info!
  • ralkaralka Posts: 72
    the piece in the the heater case is a blend door ( if we are talking about the same thing), it diverts the air from the heater case to the defrosters or to the floor or panel vents. if you start the car and change the air flow setting see if that moves, than you will know if it is what i think you are seeing.
    good luck
  • I think I was asking about the filter type thing behind the glove box.Kind of big,encased by the black grated box.It was wet.It does seem to move so as to let air in.Anyway,it's raining out now.1st time since I put the silicone sealer stuff around.I'll let you know if the fix was enough.
  • Hey bro.I was just vacuuming the Lincoln and I noticed the floor in the back,driver side and front driver side is wet too.Where's that coming from???Front passenger side seems nice and dry now though.It rained for a while yesterday.I guess the fix worked on that side, so far,anyway.Any idea what's up with the back??
  • ralkaralka Posts: 72
    check the hood release cable and grommet , sometimes the water channels through it
  • ok.I think that it may be weatherstripping too.It looks good but who knows.
  • HELLO ALL: i BOUGHT MY TOWNCAR A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WENT THRU A SMALL STREAM(THE ROAD GOES OVER A CREEK) NEAR MY HOUSE-i'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS GOING OVER THIS CREEK WITH ANY OTHER CAR SO i WAS SUPRISED TO SEE MY CARPET ON THE REAR PASSENGER SIDE SOAKED- i LOOKED UNDER IT AND THE RUBBER DRAIN PLUG ON THE BELLY PaN WAS LOOSE- SO i DRIED THE CARPETS THE BEST i COULD AND STUCK THE PLUG BACK IN. tHAT WAS OVER A WEEK AGO AND TODAY i FELT THE CARPETS IN THE FRONT AND REAR AND THEY WERE STILL DAMP-NOW i'M BEGINNING TO THINK AFTER READING ALL THE OTHER COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER INTENTIONALY KEPT THE DRAIN PLUG LOOSE TO LET OUT ANY WATER THAT IS GETTING IN FROM ANOTHER SOURCE WHICH i HAVEN'T LOCATED YET. i WILL TRY ALL THE FIXES THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TRIED AND HOPEFULLY i CAN SOLVE THIS MYSTERY- i THINK THERE IS A MUSKY ODOR AND I NOTICED SOME SURFACE RUST ON THE SEAT TRACKS INDICATING THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR AWHILE.-HOPEFULLY MY FLOORS DON'T ROT OUT! i DID SEE ON EBAY WHERE YOU CAN BUY AN ENTIRE NEW MOLDED CARPET FOR THE CAR FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS.
  • I think I'm going to replace the door weatherstripping on mine.I'll put a bunch of silicone/adhesive on the new stripping and hopefully that stops it.I have to much stuff going on to worry about the damn floors in my Lincoln rotting out!I'll just trade it for another one.
  • I cleaned out the area in front of the cowl-there were a few leaves and some debris but not too much.
  • I'd like to remove the seats and replace the molded carpet after I fix the leak.If the car has been exposed to moisture is there a way to prevent the floors from rotting out once I have the carpet out- has anyone done this?
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