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Subaru Outback/Legacy Tires and Wheels

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  • After looking at websites, I think TireRack's Winterforce M+S Studdable 215 60SR 16 may be the best buy for a winter studdable snow (Maine, icy roads, mountains, etc). I'm planning on buying steel wheels for the snows. Does anyone have experience with the Winterforce M+S on the Outback? Also, any suggestions about 215 vs. the original 225 size?
  • I have a 2000 Limited wagon with 16 inch wheels. Would like to buy extra wheels for winter. Will 15 inch Legacy or Outback wheels work? Will they clear the calipers? Thanks
  • cptpltcptplt Posts: 1,075
    they should, the 2000 Legacy L had the same size brake rotors 10.7/11.3 and had 15in wheels.check the tech specs for the model years and also the tire/wheel section at cars101.com
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    2000 Outbacks did change rotors or calipers or pads during that model year, midway through. Not sure if it effects the rims or not.

    -mike
  • Hello, I've replace the OEM tites on my Subaru 2005 outback, with auto trasmission, with Yokohamas 225/60VR16 Yokohama AVID V4S back in Nov 2006. Now my 2 back tires are bold after about 50,0000 miles. I did rootate them once.My question is did I get the right tires? Should I've gotten more mileage on these tires? Any suggentions Thanks VL
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    You should have rotated them 10x in 50k miles!

    Also generally your tires aren't going to last more than 50k miles. That's a lot of miles. I'd just replace all 4.

    -mike
  • Thanks Paisan,
    I've replaced the 4 tires with Yokohamas V4s, the same tires I had before, now I will rotate them evey chance I have. I was thinking about getting snow tires for the winter here in Massachussets, any recomendation? Thanks thepaulista
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    My car came with the Nokian Hakkapolitas and they've been outstanding. I'm not sure about the price on em though. I liked the Pirelli Sottozeros on my 94 Legacy Turbo. I also have seen good things with the Blizzak W60s that are out now too.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • Best all-season tire for 2000 Subaru Outback for W Coast and winter ski trips to mountains? Yokohama Avid TRZ’s?

    I’m about to purchase a 2000 Subaru Outback and it turns out on inspection that the rear and front tires were not matched for tread type or tread wear, and no more than a 2/32 difference is recommended in tire size/tread, and all tires should be matched for tread. So I will have to replace them. Planning to drive the car on the W Coast in N California after relocating now from the NE, mostly for drives of 5 to 45 min during the work week, and occasional weekend trips, including ski trips to the mountains in winter. I’m looking for a top quality all-season tire that will handle well in summer and winter conditions.

    I’d sincerely appreciate your advice as I’m very careful about tires every since I bought my first car in college, a 7 year old Volvo, which had tires that checked out well enough, but in a medium rain storm, driving 30 mph on a Cliffside with one lane in each direction, with no sudden acceleration or steering moves, the car fishtailed 180 degrees, and I was lucky to “land” the car in my lane close to the inside of the road against the mountain. Some oil leaking down from a town above the road may have caused the road to be slick, but as soon as I put brand new top end all season tires on the car, it handled 10x better and safer. Never experienced that kind of slippage again.

    In response to this question on Yahoo Answers, this poster below who owns 2 subarus recommended Yokohama Avid TRZ’s http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+TRZ . I checked the reviews on Tirerack and the TRZs have an average overall rating of 8.52 out of 737 reviews, which is very good.
    http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=y&tireMake=- - - Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+TRZ&tirePageLocQty=&commentStatus=P
    He was negative on Michelin for value and quick wear:

    “I'm not sure if they're available in Australia, but I ran Yokohama Avid TRZ's on my 98 Outback.. they have a 700 treadwear rating, and the rain/ snow traction is excellent (I know not a lot of powder down there, but in a sudden downpour, they are amazing).. I drive mostly on-road, over 60 km one-way to work, and have taken them off road on occasion.. really surprising for an all season car tire. From my experience here stateside, Michelin is way overpriced, and the treads are too soft to get any real life out of; they do handle well though. Had nothing but bad experiences with Pirellis, may be just me. I'm currently running Dunlop Dirrezas on my 07 WRX.. and they have been wonderful so far. Stick like glue, and good in the rain. They are a summer- only tire though” * 4 weeks ago Source(s): 17 years in the repair trade, employed with a national tire distributor; owner of two Subarus.

    Also, any suggestions on best place to pick tires up in the Silicon Valley area?
  • I spoke with Tirerack.com and these 2 tires were their top pics for performance + value for all-season tires for the 2000 Subaru Outback Ltd Wagon:

    Bridgestone Turanza Serenity 225/60R16 $126 H sped rated - rated for 70,000 miles, supposed to offer just a little more responsive handling and a drop quieter ride than the Yokohama Avid TRZ, thanks to the stiffer tire, rated as a grand touring tire. There are less reviews for this than for the Yokohama Avid TRZ, but it appears well rated, though winter/snow ratings appear a little lower than the Yokohama Avid TRZ. Rated to 130 mph (as if I'd drive a 2000 Subaru Outback even close to that speed).

    Yokohama Avid TRZ 225/60R16 $94 T speed rated4/ - rated for 80,000 miles - rated as a touring tire. Very large number of ratings and very highly rated, both for summer and winter conditions. Considered an excellent mix of quality and value. The Yokohama Avid TRZ also got a very good review in Yahoo Answers.

    I have to decide in 2 days (by Monday evening) in order to take advantage of a $75 rebate for four Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Tires, if I want them. The Bridgestone rebate brings the cost of a set of 4 Bridgestone Turanza Serenity very close to the cost of a set of Yokohama Avid TRZs.

    I'd sincerely appreciate your advice - I'm a first time Subaru owner and haven't had to keep a car for a few years now, so haven't bought tires in years.
  • cptpltcptplt Posts: 1,075
    the Serenity has replaced the Turanza LS series which for several years was the top tire on the Tirerack reviews for whatever category they were in.(do not confuse the Turanza LS with the ELs which are often OEM and suck) whether the Serenity is as good as its predecesor remains to be seen.
  • cptplt,
    Thanks, that's very helpful. I've read mixed reviews about the Serenity - generally quite good on dry and wet, but complaints about poor traction on snow, and I expect decent traction on snow and ice from an all-year tire (decent, not superior). Is the Turanza LS still available? If it is, would you recommend picking it up? Are there any other tires you'd recommend for the Subaru Outback 2000 (16 in. tires)?
  • somainersomainer Posts: 6
    I'm looking for recommendations for All-Season tires for a 2005 Outback. We live in Maine and also run Winter tires to handle the snow and ice, so we mostly need solid competent tires to cover general summer and shoulder-season driving (as in we could get hit by a snowstorm before or after I have the Winter tires on). This is mostly for highway (often long-distances) and around town driving. Any ideas about where to buy and known specials would be appreciated as well. Thanks!
  • Hi somainer,

    I have roughly similar needs to you, except that I would be driving from warm conditions into mountains with snowy/icy conditions, rather than getting hit with freak summer storm. Though I know exactly what you mean - we've been in NY up to now and hike/kayak/x country ski in NH, ME, VT, upstate NY, MA. We've been hit with weather surprises like that in the White Mountains of NH.

    Check out my detailed post #52 that compares 2 of the best all-season tires I could find - the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity and the Yokohama Avid TRZ.

    Yokohama Avid TRZ 225/60R16 $94 T speed rated4/ - rated for 80,000 miles - rated as a touring tire. Very large number of ratings and very highly rated, both for summer and winter conditions. Considered an excellent mix of quality and value. The Yokohama Avid TRZ also got a very good review in Yahoo Answers.

    So far these 2 are looking best - I just want to verify which of the two has better snow/ice handling.
  • somainer,
    I'm looking to pick up an Outback wagon and someone on Car Talk forums recommended picking up a 2005 or beyond, as some earlier year models had a tendency to have problems with leaking head gaskets.
    1) How do you like your 2005?
    2) Do you know about how much a 2005 would cost now (I'll check KBB and other sources as well)?
    3) What's the difference between the Outback wagon and the Legacy wagon? Is the Outback wagon just a little higher off the ground?
    4) Anything in particular to look out for on Outback 2005 and newer?
  • cptpltcptplt Posts: 1,075
    I had Turanza LS on my 98 legacy GT and I put some on my dads 02 avalon too. the Turanza LS are very good but I can't say much about snow traction as my dad is in FL!! and I use snow tires here in IL in winter.
    if you can find any LSs they are probably worth getting though if you lose one in the future you may have trouble finding a replacement!

    if you live where it snows one option but a little pricier (though the LS or Serenity aren't cheap either) is to get Nokian WRs which are snow rated but can be used all year round unlike other winter tires. I actually use them all year round on a Tribeca and a Windstar and used the Wrs predecessor, the NRW, as my winter tire on my legacy.
  • somainersomainer Posts: 6
    1) Great
    2)No
    3) No, there are other diffs. Go to a used Subaru place and check them out!
    4) Not that I know. We're pleased with it. Got it used 14 mos. ago.
    Hope that helps.
  • ebony5ebony5 Posts: 142
    I have been satisfied with the Yokohama Aegis ls 4 tires on my '96 OBW. I purchased them before the TRZ's were available so when I replace them I will stick to Yohohama but may switch over to the TRZ. I live in NYC and travel upstate often.
  • I just picked up an Outback VDC edition in excellent condition with two sets of rims, including a set of WRX rims with studded snow tires on them. What do the WRX rims do for you? One person said they were for speed, another person told me they were for use with snow tires.

    Will be using this subie mostly for work highway/around town during week, and every few weeks a 2-3 hour road trip on good highways and roads in mostly very good weather. In winter, when headed to ski areas, I plan to use our all-year tires and chain up if necessary in the last 10-20 minutes driving toward the resort. It doesn't seem like you need more than that in the Bay Area - for example, for the vast majority of your drive from the Bay Area to Tahoe ski resorts, you're driving in fairly good weather on good roads - winter or snow tires seem overkill except for people who live in Tahoe full time, and have to drive on roads other than ski resort approaches that are not kept as clear.

    Also, in very good-excellent condition, what are the WRX rims worth?

    In very good-excellent condition, what are the regular rims worth?
  • cptpltcptplt Posts: 1,075
    I used my stock 02 WRX rims as my winter tire rims on my 08 OB Ltd. I actually like them better than the stock OB rims besides which they are 16in ones too and I don't like the idea of 17in rims on the OB (its more expensive and its nuts to have a high performance tire on a 4cyl OB and the stock 08 Ob rims are butt ugly and anything but bling bling!)

    what year are your WRX rims, are they 17in or 16in? I got another set of WRX rims from tirerack for about $90 each when I got snowtires for my WRX but I've never seen them that cheap anywhere else or since.

    one option instead of dedicated snows is to get Nokian WRs, they are winter rated and you can drive them all year. I use them on a Tribeca and a Windstar all year round and while they are not as good as a multicell blizzak on ice they are as good as any regular snowtire.
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