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Cougar Support Group - A New Start

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  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    I average about 21-23 mpg going to and from work which is mostly stop and go with some highway. My AC is usually on in the afternoons. On the highway I can usually average 26-28 mpg. When I went down to Fl in Aprtil I avgeraged about 26.5 mpg. Granted I was going between 80-90 most of the time. I have never gotten below 21 mpg.
  • lmigliorelmigliore Posts: 148
    I get about 22 mpg. I have a V6 manual and drive short distances (street/freeway 5 miles) in heavy traffic that goes anywhere from 5 to 75 MPH. I also nail hell out of the car on entrance ramps. Given the car's weight and performance, the mileage seems reasonable for the conditions.
  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174
    jayhawk

    I get between 21.3 and 22.5 with metro area WDC in-town driving, about 28-30 on highway travels, and about 1000 per gallon in fun :)
  • ciaraciara Posts: 9
    I average 20-22/city miles/AC on most of the time, V6-manual. I get about 270miles/tankful.
  • giddeup_50giddeup_50 Posts: 27
    Well, the graffiti is all over the wall. It was announced this morning that he Cougar is "all paws up" as of '03. Mustang (new model based on LS / T-bird) platform is moving to AAI to take its place. Ranger is moving to the Dearborn Assy palnt in Mustang's wake. I like Mustangs and Cougars equally, own both, but am saddened that they really did not place enough emphasis on such a great little car. My 1st and only enjoyable experience in a FWD car with a V6. Guess it will be back to the V8 RWD Mustang in the future!
  • fredlyfredly Posts: 201
    Announced this morning by who?
    Please cite your sources...
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    Yeah, who made this announcement? I want their name, employer, title, Social Security Number, Mother's maiden name, and Visa Credit Card Number.

    8-)

    Seriously, who made this announcement?
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    MWS - Is this true?
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    or is this another Blue Oval rumor?
  • jimbo_gjimbo_g Posts: 53
    What in the discontinued Cougar is going on in here?
  • giddeup_50giddeup_50 Posts: 27
    Mustang Out, Ranger in at Rouge Plant
    Ward's Auto World 29-May-2000
    author: Said Deep

    Ford Motor Co. plans to move Mustang production out of the Rouge complex in Dearborn,
    the lifelong home of the pony car, and replace it with the Ranger pickup and a new
    multi-activity vehicle, codenamed U260, sometime in 2003, Ford sources tell Ward's.

    The current plan is part of a multi-billion dollar modernization of the Dearborn assembly plant
    that calls for transferring Mustang production to AutoAlliance International (AAI) in Flat Rock,
    MI, a plant Ford jointly owns with Mazda Motor Corp., Ford insiders say.

    AAI currently builds the Mercury Cougar and Mazda 626. Ford is expected to discontinue
    Cougar production in '03, which will free up space for Mustang. Ford recently announced it
    would eliminate the second shift at AAI July 17, due to slow Cougar sales. Mustang will
    continue to be rear-wheel-drive, utilizing a less expensive version of the DEW platform
    currently used for the Jaguar S-Type and the Lincoln LS, Ford sources say.

    The switch to a high-volume product such as Ranger and the U260 vehicle, described as a
    miniature version of the Explorer Sport Trac built on an all-new platform, would allow Ford to
    better utilize Dearborn Assembly's nearly 2.6 million sq.-ft of space, something Mustang rarely
    has been able to do in its 36-year life.

    Ford earlier considered transferring Ranger production to Dearborn, but cancelled that plan in
    favor of an aluminum intensive vehicle dubbed D219 that was targeted to debut in '03/'04.
    That program was scrubbed and now Ranger is back in at the plant.

    Bringing Ranger pickup production to Dearborn invariably means that one of the two current
    plants building the Ranger -- Edison, NJ, and St. Paul, MN, (Twin Cities) -- could cease
    building the compact pickup.

    Ford sources tell Ward's that Edison is the plant most likely to lose Ranger and could be
    outfitted for a brand new product. It's also possible Edison could be closed. The plant dodged
    that fate in the late 1980s when Ford decided to replace Escort/Lynx production with the
    Ranger.

    Preparing Dearborn Assembly for the change to Ranger from
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    So all of a sudden "Wards Auto World" is the authority on the Cougar and FMC production plans?

    MWS, can you please comment on this?

    Thanks!
  • stageleftstageleft Posts: 391
    So Ford is "expected to discontinue Cougar in 2003", not every rumor is true. Not every rumor is false, either (now that I look at the flip side of the coin), but until it's substantiated, I'm livin' in the now, everybody! GO COUGAR, GO!
  • stageleftstageleft Posts: 391
    Thanks for the info though, giddeup_50! Because at least (if it's true), we won't get blindsided by the discontinuation (if it happens). :^)
  • jrp6977jrp6977 Posts: 87
    FMC has stated repeatedly that platform sharing allows them to make niche vehicles that would otherwise not be economically feasible to produce, yet they continue to eliminate two door models from the lineup. When will they realize that not everyone wants a truck?
  • daexpertdaexpert Posts: 140
    Not to change the topic, but I think that Cougars tend to attract people in SUV's that drive like maniacs! I was almost run off the road by this SUV today morning on 66, and then he just sped up like if they were giving away free SUVs somewhere down the road, freaking maniac! Okay, I got it all out, thanks guys.
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    I for one am sick of rumors from Blue Oval and other like sources.

    Yes rumors can be a useful sources of info, but most of the time they seem to be made up and based on scattered information.
  • bobschmbobschm Posts: 42
    Rumors are exactly that. Someone in a meeting brainstorms possibilities. Someone leaks those possibles out. A reporter writes them up as gospel. Happens all the time. Some of them come true. Some don't.

    Suppose Cougar sales take off in 2002. Do you think plans might change?

    Anyway, I don't really care if they drop the Cougar. I've got MINE. Mwooohahahahahaa!
  • halo_1halo_1 Posts: 27
    Cougar sales aren't going any where if Ford doesn't advertise the Cougar. If they have plans to scrap it, I'm sure they won't spend money now to try to pick up sales...
  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174
    The possibilty still exists to move the Cougar manufacturing to a different facility as well.

    Coming home today, a fellow in a fairly new Tercel was HANGING out his window to check out my kitty, coming up to a red light driving slow (I was already stopped) and took his time looking at every inch.

    I'm proud but a teensy bit insulted....he didn't notice ME at all, just the Cougar!
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Well, I dropped off my Cat at the dealer body shop for the bumper repairs. A new rear bumper cover is needed. The total cost including parts and labor is around $450.00. No money out of my pocket. My car should be ready on Friday with new bumper and V6 emblem. My rental is a 2000 Chevrolet Impala. Not a bad car.
  • giddeup_50giddeup_50 Posts: 27
    I was surprized as everyone else but first heard this story this morning on a Detroit TV station.
    And from what I gather inside the hallowed walls, the story is not too far from the truth... If the second shift is curtailed as it is planned, well that doesn't bode well for 626 or Cougar. Both cars are competing against staunch competitors though I think the Cougar still has class compared to the "new kid in town" Japanese products. I really thought Mercury was trying to reinvent itself by moving L/M HQ to Irvine... It worked for the LS; got a younger crowd to look at Lincoln(not much younger overall but younger still) (glad, since I am involved with the LS program, but sad for Mercury...)
    Guess you can't get away from the Grand Marquis mentality... Anyone old enough to remember the SNL skit with the Rabbi performed circumsions in the rear seat of a of a Grand Marquis Brougram (spoof of the L/M diamond cutter commerical)? That about sums it up...
  • krnchkrnch Posts: 127
    giddeup_50: What sort of involvement do you have with the LS program?
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    All:
    Before we get carried away and actually believe this rumor, why don't we wait for MWS to shed some light on this situation? I'm sure he is going to comment on this announcement.

    This morning on the way in to work I was driving up Route 287 doing about 70mph when all of a sudden a can (looked like a tuna fish can) shot out from underneath the car in front of me, pinged off my front bumper, shot straight up in to the air, and came down behind me three cars back landing on the hood of a Toyota. I was really pissed, I figured my front bumper was going to have a HUGE scratch in it. But when I got to work I saw that the can hit my front license plate and not the car. The plate has a small dent in it, but I could'nt care less about it. I got lucky, for once.
  • y2kittyy2kitty Posts: 7
    I'm with Bobschm. We all bought our cougars cuz we love the car and how it handles. I plan on keeping my cat all long as its little motor continues to purr and if that's 20 or 30 years - that's a lot of bang for my buck. If Mercury quits making them, it just turns our cars into classics.

    As for advertising... we were in the market for a car and the sky was the limit. We started researching on Edmunds and reading what different groups had to say. We had never seen the cougar - but after reading the extensive praise this group lavished on the car, we checked into it, loved it and bought it (after spending several afternoons looking at Aleros and Malibus and Beetles and Z24s). Would we have bought a cougar without the CSG? No way. Do we love it? So much so - that my husband considered buying a second one a month ago (got an Subaru Impreza instead - just for the AWD). If the rumor is true, the bottom line is that Mercury/Ford shot THEMSELVES on this one.
    Ppptttttt. (Big raspberry...)
  • bobschmbobschm Posts: 42
    Unsubstantiated rumor monger that I am, I predict that the Mercury label will go the way of Plymouth. Every Mercury except the Cougar has an identical Ford counterpart competing with it. Fords are winning. Why continue to compete with yourself? Can anyone name a Mercury, any Mercury, that is selling well? FMC will dump the entire Mercury line in about 5-6 years. Car-nak has spoken.
  • halo_1halo_1 Posts: 27
    If you check out the Ford website (www.ford.com), the Cougar is listed under the "SMALL CARS" section with the likes of the Focus. What's up with that??? We should be under the "SPORTS CAR" section...
  • bobschmbobschm Posts: 42
    Walk into any LM showroom. What you'll see is a Lincoln LS, a Lincoln Town Car, another Lincoln LS, and a lone Mercury Cougar. Drive by any LM lot. What you'll see in the front row is Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Cougar, Cougar.

    Try it. You'll see.
  • bobschmbobschm Posts: 42
    Proof that the niche they designed it for is female, 20-25, professional.
  • stageleftstageleft Posts: 391
    I'd hate to see the Mercury nameplate go away, especially with all the heritage behind it, and the fact that I now own one. However, Ford no longer has a FWD coupe (Probe go bye, bye), so there's going to be a need for some car in this class or Ford is slowly going to turn into a big truck-building conglomerate ... with a Mustang backbone.

    I'm happy that at least I own what I would say is one of the difinitive turning point cars of the new millenium, and I'm proud to be a member of this group. It's just too bad that there wasn't more "look at me" type advertisements or I believe the Cougar would have outsold itself. It was on a good run there when it first rolled off the line.

    Maybe they did, but I guess they underestimated the unisex design that bodes so much more than any other typical "chick-cars". (No offense) The Cougar appeals to more people than genders, but FMC missed the demographic by a mile. I guess they think all men should be F-150 drivers or something. Although their SUV's appeal to more women than men ... Quite the quandry, indeed.
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