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2008 Hyundai Elantra

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  • Hey Eric,

    It is not just an inconvenience, it is a SAFETY HAZARD. If your car loses power/stalls on a major highway, like mine did on I-95 with people travelling at high speeds - People could get hurt or die. Maybe if you live in "hickville" you have drivers who are practicing safe driving but in areas like DC/VA/MD/NJ/PA/NY and a host of others, the probability of an accident increases exponentially. It is that type of ignorance/cavalier attitude about an issue like this that will get someone seriously hurt. Companies shouldn't wait for the worse to happen to take action.
  • I'm a Hyundai fan, but I don't think I can agree with you on this.

    There are some components which are designed NOT to fail during a normal operation. Things like Steering, Brakes, and, FUEL system. These are supposed to be designed with very high Factor of Safety. The fact that fuel pumps are failing is alarming because that means that either design is bad or manufacturing is bad. These are NOT supposed to fail during normal operation.
  • justloujustlou Posts: 24
    "If you read the report, its from 7/17/2008. It is also the day he called me on the phone to get the phone number of the police dept. that handled the 3 vehicle crash caused because of my husband's fuel pump failing. Since this was put on the internet there are now over 24 reports when I last looked."

    Are these 24 reports on a message forum or to the NTSB? I still only see 4 reports to the NTSB, which is the only place that will matter.
  • Are these 24 reports on a message forum or to the NTSB? I still only see 4 reports to the NTSB, which is the only place that will matter.

    Well, lets see. I didn't even know about this website until it was posted a few days ago and our report to the NTSB is number 18. And if you go thru each one you will see they are reports done thru the NTSB. I NEVER posted anything here. That means the NTSB posted it.

    http://www.aboutautomobile.com/complaint/2008/HYUNDAI/ELANTRA
  • My title says bought new with 14 miles on it. And I put 10 of those miles on it test driving it. Do you think it had a crash on the way to the dealer? Maybe when they were unloading it in the Port Of Newark? I will have to tell hubby when he gets his load to the Port tomorrow to see if he sees more Hondas coming off the container ships as he saw a whole ship full last week. Maybe he can get a look to see how careful they are taking them off the ship and loading the car carriers. :)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    No idea. I was simply offering one reason why the sticker with manufacturing date would not be on a car.
  • About a bad fuel pump causing an accident- that's a little of a stretch for me. Cars die out all the time on the road- even on expressways traveling at high speeds. Hopefully cars following are aware enough to stop and not swerve uncontrollably. I think the reason there are accidents (most of the times) is because people are driving too fast and aren't allowing enough space between cars. Now if the fuel pump going out causes the brakes to lock up immediately, that would be another issue.


    If that 18 wheeler and SUV and car hit my husband (3 lane highway in NJ) do you think Hyundai would have enough money for a lawsuit for my husband getting killed due to their defective fuel pump. Evidently you need to talk to a REAL mechanic or maybe a State troooper to see just how many cars/trucks with problems cause accidents. :mad:
  • Hubby just called. I told him about maybe my car not having a sticker and he knows what everyone is talking about. He is going to check his car tomorrow when he gets back from OH to NJ. Then he is going to check mine when he gets home Sat. morning. If he can't find them he said we are driving both vehicles back to the dealer to find out whats up with no sticker. He told me he knows where his is on his 18 wheeler and says..yes...it is a mandatory thing. I told him last week I couldn't find it, but he didn't listen to me. Now that I told him was was posted here he is finally taking me serious. I think he didn't pay attention to me last week when I mentioned it as all you husbands do have a tendancy to sometimes tune your wives out now and than... :shades: :)

    I know mine does and he is my 3rd. So, that said, the 3 threes stand for Dead, Divorced, but not desparate on the last one. He is the best. :) :)
  • ez888ez888 Posts: 39
    i can understand how it can increase the odds of an accident- especially in heavy populated areas. my old car died out a couple times on a busy chicago expressway and when it died, the power steering didn't work but i was still able to turn the car and apply the brakes appropriately and get over to the shoulder. maybe i was lucky and i don't mind rolling the dice. i know i probably shouldn't trust others' driving abilities that much.

    it would be nice for companies to act when just handful of issues arise; however, it just doesn't make financial sense. i know i know, money isn't everything and safety is more important, but would it make sense to recall 100s of thousands of cars if it only is affecting less than 2% of the cars? i say no, but can appreciate others' opinions.

    would i like to see them recall all 2008 elantras? yes, but i just don't think it's realistic until it's proven there's a bigger issue out there.

    maybe i just jinxed myself with my elantra :) we'll see.

    have a good one.
    eric
  • ez888ez888 Posts: 39
    i think hyundai would have enough money- maybe that's unfortunate that large companies can settle lawsuits with not much negative impact to their bottom line; it's like a slap on the hand. i would hope car manufacturers wouldn't want to have the bad press; however, looks like they don't mind rolling the dice either.

    i used to work on the tollway in chicago and saw many accidents and fatal ones all the time- i know car problems can cause accidents; however, a large percentage can be avoided. i'm not trying to minimize your husband's situation- sorry that happened. i just don't think hyundai will do anything about this issue until more are brought to their attention. i wish they would but don't see it happening anytime soon.

    take care.
    eric
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    There will be no general action (e.g. recall) taken until: 1) the problem is pinpointed, 2) they know which cars are affected, and 3) the parts are available to fix the problem. If it is a faulty fuel pump, it's very possible that only a fraction of the current-gen Elantras are affected. It would do little good to recall all current-gen Elantras if only a few are affected.
  • I just came out of a Toyota Tacoma recall. I found the Toyota forum and a yr ago people were reporting what was happening to their trucks. It ended up with Toyota Tacomas 1995 - 2000 getting recalled and all being checked at the dealers. They even knew which vin #s were affected. The letters are still going out. And my 1997 almost mint condtion Taco was affected. The frame was soft and getting holes in strategic areas of importance.

    And I had been posting over there in that forum and when hubby's car had the problem I found this forum. Now considering that forum was posting for 8 months before Toyota did anything.....well... I wouldn't doubt Hyundai is trying to narrow down vin #s to send letters out to. My truck was actually bought off me at 150% of the KBB value of what a dealer would sell it for in excellant condition so Toyota could take it back and crush it. Their letter read 183,000 trucks affected.

    So, I bought my Elantra with the check from Toyota. I know there is a problem, I know hubby almost got killed. But I just want to see anyone with a fuel pump get it fixed before someone gets killed. I love my Elantra. I am very happy with the mileage, the room and the price.

    Kinda crappy that I lost my truck that never had a engine problem and bought something I have to worry about. But after being thru a recall where I lost my paid off vehicle of 11 yrs, this fuel pump thing is an annoying factor because I have to worry everytime I go someplace am I going to break down.

    I think Hyunda should have enough data by now to know approx. what vehicles are affected to have them brought in to the dealer and checked.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Not sure what you mean by "check" them. IMO, the only action that can be taken once the problem is pinpointed (e.g. a faulty batch of fuel pumps) and the affected cars are identified (e.g. a range of manufacture dates, or VINs) is to notify those owners to bring their cars in ASAP and replace the fuel pumps. By the time they pull the pump out of the fuel tank, they might as well replace the pump rather than try to determine if there's something wrong with it, or something will go wrong with it.

    As to how much data Hyundai has and whether it's enough for them and the NHTSA to announce the action plan... well, I wouldn't presume to know more than they do at this point. They probably have info you and I are not privy to.
  • I will be buying a car this week and don't know which one to get. I might be able to get an Elantra for $16,000 with the leather package. The Fits are running about the same price. I am not sure about the Corolla...probably 19,000.

    I am also wondering when the new Elantras are coming out and if they are going to do deep discounts on the 08's. The problem is, I need one now.

    Consumer Reports highly recommends the Elantra, but it seems like the Toyota lines have been steady through the years.

    Help! Any ideas/suggestions/tips?
  • Not sure what you mean by "check" them. IMO, the only action that can be taken once the problem is pinpointed (e.g. a faulty batch of fuel pumps) and the affected cars are identified (e.g. a range of manufacture dates, or VINs) is to notify those owners to bring their cars in ASAP and replace the fuel pumps. By the time they pull the pump out of the fuel tank, they might as well replace the pump rather than try to determine if there's something wrong with it, or something will go wrong with it.

    As to how much data Hyundai has and whether it's enough for them and the NHTSA to announce the action plan... well, I wouldn't presume to know more than they do at this point. They probably have info you and I are not privy to.

    As I posted before, I believe it is up to the 2008 Elantra owners to call Hyundai to express their concern about the faulty fuel pump, even if you don't have a problem now. Tell them "do you know how disconcerting it is to be driving a vehicle with a known safety investigation open, with the potential failure of my vehicle being raw data for said investigation?" If we express our concerns appropriately it will hopefully do some good, at least letting Hyundai know that it's customers are paying attention.

    Can we do a roll call of who called and experiences with the corporate office?

    Drive safely and keep a lookout for the check engine light!
  • IMO, Elantra is the better all-around car with more features and space for the money. Hondas hold their value better. Be mindful of the current safety investigation regarding the fuel system. Check out the reviews of each car you're interested in and don't be afraid to ask the dealer to take one out overnight or a few hours. The 2009 Fit should be out later this year, you may want to wait. But the 2008 Elantra should be well discounted (especially the GLS). Call your dealer to see when the 2009s are out.
  • Can we do a roll call of who called and experiences with the corporate office?

    Me.... I have a case number due to my car being sluggish under 25 miles an hour. And they gave me the case number, told me to keep it and have the car hooked up to the diagnostics at the dealer who of course said....nothing wrong. I don't believe them. And like you said before.... I think they recalbirated it too now as it was fine for almost a week after I took it to the dealer and now it is starting in again.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    The Elantra (and Corolla) and the Fit are totally different kinds cars. So the first question you need to ask yourself is, do I need a hatchback/wagon or is a sedan OK? That question alone could steer you to the Fit (although the Matrix is another option).

    One big advantage the Elantra (SE only) and Corolla have over the Fit IMO is that electronic stability control is available (standard on the SE). VSA will be available on the highest-level trim of the 2009 Fit (Sport with nav), if you don't mind paying close to $19k + T&L for a Fit.

    The Corolla with leather will probably cost more than $19k + T&L. A fairly spartan LE is over $18k, and big discounts are hard to come by due to $4 a gallon gas.

    If you are looking for a good all-around car at the lowest price, and you don't need a hatchback or ESC, then the 2008 Elantra GLS would be your best bet. Some dealers (e.g. Towne Hyundai) are selling automatics with PEP for around $13k + T&L with the $1500 rebate. If you can find an SE with leather for around $16k + T&L, I think that is a good deal at this time, considering how popular the SEs are.

    Have you driven all these cars yet? You might be able to decide just from a long test drive in each car. The Elantra and Corolla have some similarities in ride, but the Fit is much different.
  • ez888ez888 Posts: 39
    i've driven in all 3 and still like the elantra the best. as others have said, corolla and elantra are quite similar; however, elantra has more room inside, drives smoother, and has better options at a cheaper price.

    the fit is a total different type of a car. they are nice; however, pricier- my friend bought one 3 weeks ago and no dealer in the chicagoland area would go under sticker price since they're a hot commodity. my friend also owns a new nissan versa and he likes that better than the fit- says it is more comfortable and drives better.
  • Hi,

    Hmm...that's a biggie question...three pretty good cars, but Hundyai is still new to being considered with Honda and Toyota--yes consumer reports came out with the glowing report....

    but so much of what goes into this also depends on who you are and what you want.

    Some of my friends still warn to stay clear of the Hundyai, but I'm uncertain myself.

    When you say now, do you mean like "yesterday"? Cause I believe the new Honda Fit's are due out end of Sept (?) and the new Elantra's I don't know when...

    I'd recommend to read the various forums--great info..

    If you go over to the Elantra '08 forum, you will find many fuel pump problems are arising from the 08's...this is not to say yours would have this, of course--but they are happening at an alarming rate and to date no recall issued--a true safety concern. Yes, it has a long warranty, but maybe that's cause you'll need it! (?)

    I think Honda Fit (go to that forum too) is awesome if you can deal with no armrest and no seat height adjustment. The "09 will be even better and with armrest but no height adjustment..If you are short, the Fit actually 'fits' better than if you are tall, IMO--and you can just toss in a comfy cushion to raise you higher.

    But if you are tall, or anticipate tall people driving, this could be a problem.

    I just love hatchbacks, to throw all my stuff in-- and Honda is a great solid company. But that's me--maybe not you at all.

    But you need to ask yourself what is most important to you?

    Safety? Price? Resale? Comfort? Hatchback? Color choices?

    MPG: they all are around the same, I think--but you can research this at
    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ratings2008.shtml
    click on "Find and compare cars"

    And you need to test drive all three carefully--pay attention to comfort and
    other things and try to imagine if you would be comfortable with the car for the
    next 3-5 years...

    I found the 'O9 Corolla overpriced and lackluster, frankly. It did not live up to it's hype, but it was fine enough--and as a Toyota, I'm sure it's also going to do well by you and if you like it, that's all that matters...

    Here's another tip:

    Don't tell salespeople you need a car NOW--they love desperate and eager customers. Stick to a price somewhere between invoice and MSRP that seems fair and tell them this is what you are willing to pay. Be willing to walk out-there are many other dealers out there who will give you what you want.

    Don't forget--They are eager to move the '08's off the lot, as they need room for the next batch coming in....

    Best of luck--when in doubt, don't do it--there is no cooling off period, so if you need to sleep on it, than tell them you are tired and will come back the next day. Or maybe go for a long lunch and call some friends for advice...You are the buyer and they want your business.

    Finally, remember--there is NO PERFECT CHOICE--they all have pros and cons, and all will please and disappoint no doubt to some degree or another...

    Good luck--hopefully others will also chime in--I am no expert, but this is just from my last couple of months' experience!
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