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2009/2010 Honda Fit

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  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    No problem. By the way, I am only referencing the JDM and USDM Fit here.

    There are regional offerings like any global cars, so Honda can always let a local subsidiary have its own specials.

    For example, Honda City (CDM), aka Fit Aria, manufactured in Guangzhou, China, can be equipped with full leather seats. It would be very easy for Honda to use the same seats in the Fit if that is what they want in a particular market. So maybe in UK and/or Australia, they may do the same for the Jazz. It all depends upon the market requirements and demands, and nothing is carved in stone.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,722
    Wasn't the new Fit already "debuted" in Japan some time ago? So this would be a North American debut for the 2009 Fit, not a world debut, right?

    Too bad the article didn't mention when the 2009 Fit would be in showrooms!
  • Yes, I think the headline is wrong. It would be the North American debut. Unless auto shows have their own particular way of doing things.

    It looks to me that we might get a release date within the month.

    I would love the skyroof. :)
  • And this:
    http://blogs.motortrend.com/6230081/hatchbacks/2009-honda-fit-to-make-new-york-s- how-debut/index.html

    "The 2009 Honda Fit is making its debut in U.S.-spec trim at the New York auto show in March. Sales of the current-generation Fit have been limited in some areas only by how fast the subcompact five-door can be made. The new car, which made its world debut at last year's Tokyo Motor Show, is built on a longer wheelbase than the current model, which has only been in U.S. Honda dealerships for two model years. The 2009 Fit is expected to hit U.S. showrooms shortly after its debut at New York."

    I love the last sentence. :D
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,722
    Wow! That surprises me because the dealer where I am first in line for the 2009 Fit told me when I placed the reservation last year that they would not be here until fall. But I guess we shouldn't be too surprised... didn't the Fit originally arrive in the U.S. in April 2006?

    I am disappointed about one thing, though. The Greater Twin Cities Auto Show is the 2nd week in March, so that's probably too early to get a 2009 Fit there, given it is making the big splash at the New York show. The Fit was at the 2006 Twin Cities show, about a month before it went on sale.
  • You can now register at honda.com for email updates on 2009 fit http://automobiles.honda.com/2009-fit/
  • thanks for giving us the heads up
  • I was very, very impressed when I saw the new design introduced last October. The down side was that it wouldn't be available in the U.S. until Fall, and I was kinda bummed out over that. I didn't feel I could wait that long for a newer car. Glad things have changed. But given the popularity of this model, is it likely there will be long waits to get ahold of the second generation Fit, no matter when they pop up at dealerships? I'm car shopping and have several models in mind that I like, but I've always been enamored with the Fit.
  • I read on http://tophondanews.blogspot.com/2007/12/2009-honda-fit.html that the 2009 with the 1.3 liter engine and CVT transmission gets 56 MPG, and the 1.5 get 46 (the article quoted litres per 100 kilometer,and I converted them). The article also quoted the price as 9,800 to 14,600. I'm sure this is the JDM version, but I wonder what the mileage will be on the American version? Also, do we pay that much for our cars to meet safety and emission requirements?

    Personally I'd much prefer the 1.3 liter engine (100 hp). The 1.5 (120 hp) has 20% more horsepower, but it uses 22% more fuel. Assuming the 1.3 liter engine would get 22% more mpg in America, like they say it does in Japen, a 1.3 liter engine in a 2008 model should increase MPG from 34 to 41.

    If the MGP for the 2009 is signaficantly better than the 2008, I'll wait, but I'm not going to wait to get 5 extra cup holders.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    The Japanese fuel efficiency testing mode called 10-15 is so totally absurdly unreal that, if compared with it, Harry Potter is a documentary. ;)
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    the 2009 with the 1.3 liter engine and CVT transmission gets 56 MPG, and the 1.5 get 46 (the article quoted litres per 100 kilometer,and I converted them). The article also quoted the price as 9,800 to 14,600.

    The 1.3L Fit is really not meant for US Roads it's very underpowered for our highways. I know since I drove a 1.3L while overseas. Great car but not if you drive a lot of highway. Japanese mpg testing is also different so the mileage will be off. Here is an excerpt figure what you know about the Prius and compare.

    The results of the Prius testing reflected the tougher new test cycle: fuel economy under JC08 came to 26.9 km/l (3.7 l/100km or 63.3 mpg US). Under the 10-15 test cycle, the Prius returned 35.5 km/l (2.8 l/100km or 83.5 mpg US). The 2015 target for the Prius weight category (Class 7: 1,196 - 1,310 kg) is 17.2 km/l (5.8 l/100km or 40.5 mpg US).

    No way does a Prius get 27km/l! We have hundreds of Prius's around here and none are getting that kind of fuel economy.
    I only got 10.5 km/l in the Fit I was using and my buddy who owned it never got much better than that in full city driving. Real world, the Fit should get 15km/l. Some people get that others do not.
    I suspect that the 2009 Fit will get the same economy as the 2008 but have a few more HP and a bit more torque. Plus some other necessities like a dead pedal.
    The US will never get the 1.3L engine.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    The Japanese fuel efficiency testing mode called 10-15 is so totally absurdly unreal that, if compared with it, Harry Potter is a documentary

    Yes, I quite agree. However they are switching their testing methods and eliminating Mode 10-15. I believe the new mode is called JC08.
    Here is a link
    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/08/prius-certified.html
    This brings the Prius for the JDM down to about 40mpg US standard. So it's a heck of a lot more accurate than the older method.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Yes, JC08 is coming online. I will have to wait and see how the real world mileage aligns with this new testing standard and vice versa. I knew that there had to be a better way of reporting the fuel efficiency than 10-15 (which, believe it or not, was supposed to be more real-life than the previous 10 mode!).
  • Unless I missed it on an earlier post, I've come across a new video of the 2009 Fit in both Base and RS packages in a promotional spot from Japan.

    It wouldn't let me attach a link to the web site but if you'd like to check it out, it's on Youtube.com; just type 2009 Honda Fit into the search for video's and it's the first one that pops up.

    I've seen the auto show clip where it's on a rotating display but this 2:23 promotional video gives you an idea of what it looks like from all angles actually driving down the road.
  • onthefarmonthefarm Posts: 22
    I saw this video some time ago. It features the car beautifully and is yet another reason I want one! There's no way Honda won't sell these with ease. :)
  • futurefitfuturefit Posts: 17
    Yes, thats a good one. I think it came out last fall after the Tokyo show.

    If you haven't gone to the Japan honda website its worth the visit.. Pretty easy to navigate with tab system. Try out the maker and dealer options on this page. Although the options may not be the same here, much of the car will be the same.

    If you check the first "maker option" and then the one under it, you get the sky roof. :P http://www.honda.co.jp/Fit/3dview/exterior/index.html

    I'll be at the NY show. And the sooner they go on sale, the happier I'll be.
  • I hadn't thought about checking out the Japan Honda web site so thanks for the additional resource to go along with the video I found.

    For some reason I seem to be having a problem attaching links to various articles and web sites I find regarding the new Fit and I wanted to ask if you didn't mind telling me how you attached your link to this post?

    Thank you!
  • futurefitfuturefit Posts: 17
    Sure, I just hi-lighted the address line, copied it and pasted it in my response.
    ( Copy and Paste.)

    Using Google translate can help a bit with the Japan site. http://www.google.com/translate_t?hl=en

    Your Welcome.
  • There was an additional article I came across that I've wanted to post which has the most detailed description (five pages printed out) of the new redesigned Fit actually broken down by department but you had to go through six or seven steps to access it and your copy and paste tip couldn't have been easier so this is the first time I've attempted to attach a link to a post so please let me know if you were able to access it because it really is worth checking out.

    Thanks again!

    http://world.honda.com/news/2007/4071018All-New-Fit/
  • futurefitfuturefit Posts: 17
    Your link worked. Thanks.

    I've been collecting pictures of the 09 Fit these past months and just put them in a Picasa web album. You have probably seen most of them. But maybe there's a few you haven't. http://picasaweb.google.com/lennypics/Fits

    I'll leave them up till after NY Auto show.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    I've been collecting pictures of the 09 Fit these past months and just put them in a Picasa web album. You have probably seen most of them. But maybe there's a few you haven't.

    Some great pics there. I just hope that HUGE sunroof and I do mean ROOF is an option because it's unable to be blocked and no way would I want a giant sunburn all the time. :sick:
    In fact without a way to fully block the sun I can't see them selling the 2009 Fit in any of the Sun States.
    Imagine Texas, Arizona, Nevada etc... with a honking huge unblockable sunroof.
    I say keep the other upgrades but ditch the sunROOF. Hopefully the sunROOF won't pass the safety tests.
    It'd be a deal killer for many, for certain.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    In the pics Lenny put up there is a pic of a light blue Fit with no doors and it has the old style interior in it.
    So no adjustable seat height. The steering wheel is the same as in my Civic Si.
    I am very interested to see the actual model we will get here.
  • futurefitfuturefit Posts: 17
    "I just hope that HUGE sunroof and I do mean ROOF is an option because it's unable to be blocked and no way would I want a giant sunburn all the time.
    In fact without a way to fully block the sun I can't see them selling the 2009 Fit in any of the Sun States.
    Imagine Texas, Arizona, Nevada etc... with a honking huge unblockable sunroof.
    I say keep the other upgrades but ditch the sunROOF. Hopefully the sunROOF won't pass the safety tests.
    It'd be a deal killer for many, for certain. "


    Not to Worry:
    The sky roof has a shade that is electric and operated by push button. Can be closed all the way or partial. Honda was able to have an optional glass roof because of the improved rigidity of the A pillars and overall car.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    I just hope that HUGE sunroof and I do mean ROOF is an option

    In Japan, it's an expensive option (almost US$1200), and very few people are taking it. I am not sure whether the Skyroof will be available in North America, and if it did become available, I have a feeling that not many units would be shipped here with the Skyroof. We will find out soon enough.
  • futurefitfuturefit Posts: 17
    "In the pics Lenny put up there is a pic of a light blue Fit with no doors and it has the old style interior in it.
    So no adjustable seat height. The steering wheel is the same as in my Civic Si.
    I am very interested to see the actual model we will get here."


    If your talking about the last picture, thats the new interior and thats the passenger seat.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    In Japan, it's an expensive option (almost US$1200), and very few people are taking it. I am not sure whether the Skyroof will be available in North America, and if it did become available, I have a feeling that not many units would be shipped here with the Skyroof. We will find out soon enough.

    Well as long as it's an option and not mandatory on any trim level I'd be ok with that. more worrisome is the last pic Lenny had which shows no seat height adjustment and a primary reason we didn't buy the Fit or a Prius.
    The Skyroof looks like it belongs on a concept car not a street going model. Can you say "Stress Cracks"? I knew that you could. :surprise: :sick:
    Honestly the skyROOF is a bad idea if ever I saw one. Now a convertible would be ok or even a normal sunroof. Although I'd prefer no sunroof at all.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    If your talking about the last picture, thats the new interior and thats the passenger seat.

    Yes I am, last pic light blue, no doors at all. Did you notice there is no seat height adjustment? a deal killer for my lovely but short wife.
    I hope they put it in along with the Civic steering wheel as is seen in other pics.
    I know Japanese arrogance will have them de-contenting the car for the US market but the Fit isn't the only car out there. If the shifter had been like the Fits we would be driving a Scion xD right now.
    More power and much better stability but shifted like stirring rubbery coal, no height adjustment either so no xD. It's not like it's an expensive option either.
    Honda makes great cars and I really like them but seat height is a must for my wife. If they don't put it in they'll lose my business this next time around.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Well as long as it's an option and not mandatory on any trim level I'd be ok with that.

    The problem with Honda in North America is that they virtually never let you choose a manufacturer's option, unlike in Japan where you can pick and choose pretty much anything you want off the option list.

    What that means is that, if Honda is going to offer the Skyroof to North America, it is more likely that this expensive option would be a mandatory item for a certain trim level, exactly what you are fearing may happen.

    What is happening in Honda Japan is not a very good predictive tool for Honda in North America.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    What that means is that, if Honda is going to offer the Skyroof to North America, it is more likely that this expensive option would be a mandatory item for a certain trim level, exactly what you are fearing may happen.

    Fearing for good reason I might add.
    I don't see them doing this on all trim levels but why on earth put it on a base model? No chance, so the Sport or RS model will likely suffer with it but your handling will be way off if you have a heavy glass roof on top of the car. I don't see this being offered in the US unless it's in a 3rd trim level like a touring model.
    I just want a sport model with adjustable seats and no skyROOF.

    What is happening in Honda Japan is not a very good predictive tool for Honda in North America.

    Yes which is why websites don't really help much. The new Subaru STi gets different turbochargers from the US model for example.
    I'm hoping the skyROOF is not brought over, sadly Honda will probably bring it over and not as an option and it'll make the handling awful.
    Guess there will be a different car than a Honda in my garage if the Fit Sport/RS has a skyROOF and no adjustable drivers seat.
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