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Billboards Should Be Outlawed

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    You mean reverse socialists :P

    I hate the electronic billboards, a big distraction for the average braindead driver around here, and they are usually for tacky casinos and shady car lots anyway. Luckily billboards are not so common in the northwest.

    I think more billboards should be put where they can be visual blight for crony capitalists and the inheritance elite, who would be very NIMBY to such an idea.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    Funny, the WSJ on the 20th said that the world's least regulated advertising market is in Commie Russia. The Ruskies do ban outdoor booze and tobacco ads.

    So if you are a person who like lots of billboards, you must a closet pinko. :shades:

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  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    The little W/S in your Volvo...

    The spacious expanse of glass in my Mazda MPV and Buick Regal are for looking at the purple mountains majesty... not "Loco Joe's Fireworks 5 miles ahead" billboards.

    If businesses can't turn a profit without billboards, then I would suggest they take another course in Capitalism 101... because they are surely doing something wrong.

    But, to me this BB issue isn't about business advertising or profit. It's about respecting other human beings and their lifestyle. You don't pollute others water (laws for this), you don't pollute their air ( anti-smoking laws) and you don't pollute the roadways and cities with clutter, blight and unnecessary advertising... which is the billboard.

    The big bad capatilist have had a history of running over the working man for extra profit. When unregulated.. their history of abuse of the land, water and human beings is appalling. One billboard is one too many. Just as one smoker in a room full of people is one to many. Whining may not get respect (could care less) , but when it comes to changing the laws that allow BB's to exist, it may get results. :shades:
  • fezofezo Posts: 9,328
    We had a very interesting battle that went on for years with billboards down here at the Jersey shore. A local fellow had quite the business with billboards. When the township wanted them down he said they were on his property and made it a freedom of speech issue. Then he got hit with the property tax bill and declared that it was public land.

    The whole mess lingered in the courts for years until one judge finally gave the township the OK to cut the things down and no judge would step quickly enough to stop the chainsaws. No one has complained about that either. The bay is a much prettier sight than the ads.
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Going through Clarksville, Indiana the other day along I-65. Seemed like going through a tunnel of billboards they were so close together. Like I said before, can't really see these things generating much profit. They certainly are not worth being the eyesore to the community that they are. A bunch of advertisment for McDonalds, 3 different porn shops or gentlemens clubs, REMax Reality, Bud-Lite... the rest is a fog. Further along I-65 north they had the smaller directional signs along the highway. They had one for amusements, one for lodging, one for food, and one for gas. This is the way it should be. The highway dept. gets the profit to improve the roads, not the billboard owners, and Joe Citizen gets an unblighted and uncluttered view of scenery.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    have bill boards all around the field. Why don't the socialistic environmentalists complain about those BB's? :D
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    Those ads pay for the facilites and help defray the cost of your ticket price, if any. Well, apparently they stuff the pockets of the club owners, who continue to charge $18 for a minor league hockey game ticket.

    Since billboards aren't on the ROW afaik, they are getting a free ride.

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  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    enables them to think they should have a voice about the use of property they DON'T own. They feel they are automatically entitled to have a clear view of the landscape.

    If the farmer wants to make an extra buck by providing a billboard or two on his property, the general public (who don't want their bucolic view disturbed) has no standing, position, or influence on the issue pertaining to land they don't own.
    When you don't own the land, you don't own the view.

    "Friends of The Gorge" is an organized group of asthetic enthusiasts who have been trying to control the management of the Columbia River Gorge via various legislative tricks because they don't own the properties, but still want their way

    When you want to control real estate, buy it. Otherwise hush up! :mad:
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    It's called zoning and the majority of us like most of it. :P

    I don't want to have a gravel pit move in next door and I don't want your sleazy billboards on your non-business property (and I'm not too crazy about anything bigger on your business property than a modest sign, like many communities designate).

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  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    enables them to think they should have a voice about the use of property they DON'T own. They feel they are automatically entitled to have a clear view of the landscape.

    My city, state, and federal income taxes pay for the roads, highways and interstates don't they? I should have a say on how such roads are used. I wish to use those roads without having to look at the blight and clutter that billboards create. If the farmer wants to put a billboard on his property fine, just put if back far enough on his property to where no one can see it. :P

    The government via the people are the ones that built (paid for) the highways. They should be the ones who profit from them. That's why the smaller directional signs are the best way to go for all involved... even for you. The government gets the advertising dollars, instead of big land owners or billboard companies, and are able to use that money to improve and build new roads with less expense to us... the taxpayer.

    So I say loudly, "BILLBOARDS SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!!!!!!" :shades:
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    If the farmer wants to put a billboard on his property fine, just put if back far enough on his property to where no one can see it.

    A lot of zoning regs are written that way for ball fields or bus stops. Any permitted ads have to face inward so the general public isn't bombarded by them in passing.

    However, a lot of zoning regs wouldn't permit non-farm uses (billboards) on rural zoned acreage in the first place. That's a good thing. Martha StewartTM

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,229
    "...just because you enjoy looking at Burma Shave signs?..."

    Boy what an old stick in the mud you are. Who couldn't love Burma Shave signs?

    My favorite: Don't stick your arm

    Out the window too far

    It might go home

    In another car.

    Burma Shave

    As for the rest of the billboards, do you really want me driving up and down your street looking for Joe's Porn Shop because they took the sign down? ;)

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,229
    "...Why don't the socialistic environmentalists complain about those BB?..."

    Because they prevent the ball from rolling under the fence. They may be commies but stupid they ain't. :blush:

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,593
    Here's more great old Burma Shave signs. :shades:

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  • fezofezo Posts: 9,328
    We used to have a set of Burma Shave signs on route 9 ( the same "sprung from cages on Highway 9" of Springsteen fame but about 30 miles south) here:

    A thing that will never

    Come to Pass

    Is a back seat driver

    Out of gas

    Burma Shave.

    I was born too late. Writing Burma Shave signs would have been right up my alley.

    The good thing about those were that they were small and unobtrusive - quite the opposite of today's billboards that are oversized LED TVs.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    So ... you're saying that if the Burma Shave signs had been big and obtrusive, the company would still be in business (not counting the outfit that bought the brand from Phillip Morris a while back)?

    No charge for the ellipses, btw. :P

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  • fezofezo Posts: 9,328
    I can't imagine anyone survives in today's environment as a stand alone shaving cream company, though the Burma Shave people long outlasted the signs. Ironically the reason for the end of the signs was given as safety concerns - the old driver distraction again.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    The same person who is strongly against billboards is the one and the same guy who litters his property with political candidate signs. Why do you plant the yard signs on your property and begrudge the property owner who does the same with billboards? :P
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    A 1'x1' sign vs a 10'x15' sign?

    Being a property owner is of questionable relevance, the inheritance elite get away with too much as it is...so many small town slumlord land barons in their imagined little fiefdoms who answer to nobody.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    Just curious, but are you referring to a particular poster? I must have missed the reference.

    That does remind me of a group around the country that's rather like a club - they go around and remove illegal signs off the right of way. All those Herbalife type signs you see plastered on metal stakes or stapled to telephone poles. The web link escapes me at the moment.

    Some groups are sanctioned, but the one I read about was informal.

    [edit] Found it - they call themselves sign sharks.

    Citizens Against Ugly Street Spam

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