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2008 Ford Edge

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  • mcq1mcq1 Posts: 103
    Just to let you know that I am now a proud owner of a new limited edge. We just love it. I am so glad I got it instead of the Hyundai Santa Fe.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If it is any consolation, our Odyssey van had no glovebox light either. My 12 year old Accord LX (a lower-level trim) did, but not the top-of-the-line Honda Odyssey.

    Ford's not the only guilty party when it comes to cost-cutting. Anyone driven a Toyota lately? I swear I could hear birds, because all I could think was "cheep cheep cheep!"
  • goateegoatee Posts: 51
    08 Edge Ltd AWD expected in mid January. I was reading about this X-Plan on blueovalnews.com. Seems too good to be true. Does anyone have any experience with this? Do they really need the last 4 digits of my SS# for it to work?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,671
    It's not quite that good, but it is a great no haggle price. With X plan you'll end up paying around $50 below factory invoice. You still get any public rebates on top of that and sometimes you get additional rebates (usually when there is dealer cash involved). The dealer can only charge a max of $75 documentation fee (as opposed to the usual $300 or $400. No hidden fees or other charges are allowed.

    The dealer gets a spiff check from Ford on each sale to make up the profit, but it's still 100% voluntary - the dealer doesn't have to accept X plan on any vehicle if they don't want to. But most will - just make sure you tell the dealer up front if you plan to use it.

    Yes, they need your personal info to generate a PIN - name, address, last 4 of SSN. This goes into the computer and the dealer must validate this when you purchase the vehicle.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    PLEASE if you have X-plan let your dealer know right off the bat. There is nothing that annoys me more than having an X-plan buyer let me work up a price quote then say OH by the way, I'm X-plan.

    Is X-plan a good deal on Fords? Sure but its not so great that a diligent buyer couldn't get there anyway on most models. The beauty of X-plan IS THE CONVENIENCE of walking in and getting a great price right off of the bat and KNOWING it is a great price.

    Make your life easier isn't that worth something? You know if you are getting X-plan because the dealer is suppose to show you the invoice. If you have a dealer that refuses to show you invoice, run, don't walk to the door and make a hasty retreat.

    Mark
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    My dealer had already agreed to use invoice as my lease cap cost, but then I got an x-plan PIN from another forum. So, I called the dealer and asked him if the x-plan was better or worse for me and him. His resonse was that it saved me a little but that he also made more because of the spiff check on the sale. So, we used the x-plan and we both came out better. Me by a little, him by a little more. I was happy and he was too. One of those rare win-win situations in a car transaction. I have a great dealer so I was happy to see him make a little more than before.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,671
    Which tells you something about dealers that offer to sell you a car at the X plan price but without needing a PIN. That means they aren't getting the spiff check so they must be making up the difference somewhere else.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 382
    My company participates in the X-plan program. We currently have a 2004 Mercury Mountaineer w/Luxury Package & V-8 AWD. It has been a great vehicle,but the one problem besides the obvious MPG of 12 city and 20 Highway is the leg room in the middle row of seats. My youngest Son is 15 and is 6'4" tall. His knees are up against the back of the front seat and the seats cause him back pain on trips more than a couple of hours because they do not recline. We checked out the Mazda CX-9, the Hyundai Santa Fe and Veracruz and found both with the exact same problem. At first look in 2007 I didn't care for the Edge, but decided to go to our local Ford Dealer and take a closer look. Took an Edge Limited out for a test drive and it was great. The rear leg room was the best in it's class as far as I can tell by my research. Last weekend my wife and I brought our Son along to sit in the back seats. We found them very disappointing because when he reclined to get in a comfortable position his head was hitting against the headliner in the rear cargo area. Why on earth would Ford drop the ceiling a couple of inches and reduce the headroom? Great legroom, but again we cannot find a midsized Crossover that has both the Legroom and Headroom needed in the back. We may check out the Saturn Outlook. From what I've read with the captain chairs they can be slid back to accomodate taller people. Really loved the looks, the interior and the way the Edge drove. Really disappointed though.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,671
    Good grief - how tall is he? Did it have the BAMR (vista roof)? That will sacrifice a couple of inches of headroom. I haven't heard anyone else complain about rear seat headroom.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    FWIW I have a 2006 Explorer and the second row seat backs do recline quite far. If you like the Mountaineer enough to get another I'm sure the backs recline in those now too. Plus the 4.6L modular V8 in the new Mountaineer is more powerful and fuel efficient than the one in your '04.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 382
    As I mentioned in my prior post my son is 6' 4" tall. The car didn't have a vista roof which is something that we would definitely want, but because of the issue with his head hitting the roof we won't be able to consider. Now the thing I didn't mention is that the day our son came with us was very cold so he sat in the back seat of an '07 that was on the showroom floor. The Salesman that we've been dealing with didn't say that the '08 was any better when I mentioned the issue.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 382
    I really love the Explorer and Mountaineer. We have thought about getting one with the Captain Chairs which probably do recline. But even if they do recline the specs show that legroom has not improved. At least not the amount you get in the Edge. The price is a bit prohibitive this time around since our '04 had an MSRP of just over $38K. Of course we didn't pay that much. I think we paid $33,800 with X-Plan and then there was a $3500 or $4000 rebate after state taxes. With my son due to go to college in a few years we thought we might try to stay around $32K with Rebates and discounts. Also, we do like the sound of possibly getting 24 MPG on the Highway with the possibility of it being better than that. Our Mountaineer was only rated to get 18MPG, but it usually gets 20 MPG. What was shocking to me was when we started to get an idea what we might be able to sell it for with only 35,000 miles on it. Huge depreciation and more than anything it is because not many people want a V-8 when fuel prices are so high.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    The price is a bit prohibitive this time around since our '04 had an MSRP of just over $38K. Of course we didn't pay that much. I think we paid $33,800 with X-Plan and then there was a $3500 or $4000 rebate after state taxes. With my son due to go to college in a few years we thought we might try to stay around $32K with Rebates and discounts.

    A lot has changed since '04 actually. Ford did drop the price of all trim levels a year or two ago and right now I see a $3500 rebate on the '08 Explorer in my neck of the woods.

    We have a V6 model and consistently averaged 22 mpg on our 3 long highway trips this past Summer. City is 13-14 all the time but we were more than pleased with the highway mileage. Of course YMMV.

    I'm not trying to say the Explorer and Mountaineer are the end all, be all for you. But they might be worth a look. I'm pretty sure the captain chairs recline too but I know our split bench 2nd row definitely does.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    I am 6'4" and can sit in the back seat of my wife's Edge Limited w/o BAMR and my head does not hit. Your son must have a long torso rather than leg length. I have a 36" inseam. You are right about the Edge being the roomiest in the second row. Good luck!
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    One more thing you may want to consider mtnman1 is the cargo space. The Edge looks good to us too having 2 small children and wanting to keep the monthly payment down. However, the cargo space is not impressive. It's probably going to be worth it for us to pay an extra $20-$50 per month (we lease) for a larger SUV/CUV when it's time to take the Explorer back because of all the crap we have to haul around. You will be doing the same thing at least twice a year with a college boung child so keep that in mind.

    I do like the Edge a lot and it's still on the short list. But I'm not sure the size is right for us just yet unfortunately.
  • I really do. Drove a 2007 SEL+ (same as 2008 limited supposed), and the ride, handling space were all there. body felt tight, no gaps, creaks, rattles, etc. However...
    Its sorely lacking refinement. The interior quality was pretty lousy compared to other CUVs in this segment (Acura RDX, Lexus RX350, Mazda CX-7). Lots of hard plastic on the doors and dash. Leather finish seemed very vinyl like, and cheap, although the seats were quite comfortable.Engine seemed harsh, and the transmission often hunted for gears. No manual shifting available. With just a little more refinement, this would be a very competitive CUV.

    Now..the dealer did say originall that the 07 and 08 were the same. I've seen the "sync" system before, and I know that rocks. Is the interior quality any better?
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    Our 2008 Edge Limited is a little less refined than some CUV's out there. However, the more refined ones are usually thousands more in cost. Our leather is good, if a little grainy in texture, and the seats are VERY comfortable. The door trim is hard and less refined than some, but not enough to say no to the car. The incredible second row room was the deciding factor for us. We also have a 2002 GMC Envoy SLT. The GMC interior, even after 6.5 years of use, is still more refined in appearance, but it was a more expensive MSRP even in July of 2001. However, for a road trip we will take the Edge over the GMC any time in terms of driving and comfort. The GMC does, however, do a great job at pulling our 5000# boat/trailer and is still a nice vehicle. We experience NO gear hunting or harsh engine noise at all in the Edge. The doors do sound a little tinny when you shut them, however. The Edge is not perfect but it is a great vehicle for the $$$ in my humble opinion. The 2008 Limited dash trim is different (we like it better) than the 2007, but that is a personal preference. Overall we are very happy with the Edge. SYNC is very useful and a big safety factor for us.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    The 2008 Limited dash trim is different (we like it better) than the 2007, but that is a personal preference. Overall we are very happy with the Edge. SYNC is very useful and a big safety factor for us.

    I'm glad you mention that hardhawk as I've had a really hard time finding pictures of that new trim. It's supposed to be real brushed aluminum IIRC. Is it a lot nicer than the aluminum looking trim in the other trims or is it jus a little nicer in your opinion. If you have or can point me to some pics I'd be very appreciative too.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    Go the Ford website for the Edge and then to the on line brochure. It is just like the printed brochure and has good pictures of the Limited dash. The new trim is a brushed aluminum look instead of the silver plastic with horizontal lines running across it like the 2007 SEL+ had. Another change is that the dash is black on the camel leather interior, as are the upper door panels. Ford did that to reduce glare on sunny days. The whole interior look is different than the 2007 camel interior. We like the 2008 look better. Some prefer the 2007 look. It all boils down to personal taste. That is what is nice, something for everyone!
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    I completely forgot about those. Thanks for the reminder. I've seen the pics and agree that it does look much better now.
  • Well, after further shopping, I finally found a competitive domestic CUV...
    The Saturn Vue Redline. Interior plastics are soft touch, and lightyears ahead in quality versus the ford. Switchgear is chrome metal, not coated plastic, and properly damped. In short, its the price of a Ford, but has the interior of an Audi or Lexus (well, close anyway). The manumatic 6-speed is pretty nice too. One thing it doesn't have is Sync...alas.

    Still, nice to see domestic manufacturers finally doing quality interiors. Too bad Ford can't seem to get it right.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,671
    I finally found a competitive domestic CUV

    I wouldn't exactly call it a domestic - it's derived from the European Opel Antara. Not that it's a bad thing, but most of the credit goes to Opel.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    It's also the Redline trim which is a big upgrade, and price difference, from the everyman Vue. Ford just announced the '09 Edge Sport which too has an upgraded interior with real aluminum bits around the cabin. That's the Edge I'm still watching now.
  • dgp13dgp13 Posts: 3
    ... and if so, which ones? I have been advised to avoid them altogether, regardless of the vehicle. Would appreciate some advice. DGP
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,671
    I personally don't buy them - ever. Over the long term (at least 4 or 5 vehicles) the odds are in your favor IF you can afford to pay for a big repair out of pocket. If you consider that most warranties are around $1500, that's $6K for 4 vehicles. What are the odds that you'll spend that much on 4 vehicles? Remember that the ext. warranty only kicks in after the factory warranty so you have a short window to use it - anything prior to that is covered by the factory warranty and anything after it is yours to fix anyway.

    The one exception that I make is if the buyer can't afford a large repair bill and wants to finance the warranty in with the car so they're only paying a few dollars per month.

    If you do get one make sure it's a factory warranty (Ford ESP e.g.) - 3rd party warrantys are notorious for problems.
  • dgp13dgp13 Posts: 3
    Many thanks for the information -- your note confirmed what I have heard previously. DGP
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    I flew up to Chicago last week for the Auto Show. They had the 2009 Edge Sport. It looked very nice on the outside. Could not get into it as it was on an elevated display stand. The exterior bits are available now from Ford accessories for those who want to put the lower cladding on to cover the current black. I lover the new blue color as well. It was very sharp.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    The exterior bits are available now from Ford accessories for those who want to put the lower cladding on to cover the current black.

    Correct. However I'm betting they will be much cheaper from the factory.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Posts: 702
    No doubt. And already painted to match and installed!
  • I am interested in an 08 Ford Edge as my next vehicle.

    I am curious why the side roof rails are not available with the vista panoramic roof.

    Is it a weight issue, or does it have to do with the opening and closing of the roof?

    Going skiing and putting skis on top of the ski rack is a major reason why I'm interested in an AWD crossover and it seems silly to me that Ford would create such a design incompatibility.

    I'm 6'3" and have always found that a moon roof takes away just enough inches to make me not fit in a car so I'm ok with not getting the vista roof.
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