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Hyundai Sonata vs Honda Accord



  • Thats understandable. If I had to pick out one thing I dislike about my 07 Sonata(and the 08 since they havent redisigned it, except for adding an extra headrest in the middle in the backseat) it would have to be the interior. Its outdated and boring. The instrument cluster is wack, and looks budget, and i really dislike the green backlights(I hope they make it Blue for 09). But I think the exterior is just as good if not better than the Camry(kinda weird looking. Would have to be the SE w/spoiler to make it look right), Accord(boxy front, dont like the rear lights), and definitely the Altima(Front looks like every other Nissan, back lights look kinda feminine to me). When it comes to cars its to each its own.... but I love my Sonata.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    Sorry, I thought that by saying "general 'you'" I would make it clear that the last part of my post was not directed at you specifically, but was a general comment.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    It also depends on what you are accustomed to. If your previous car was a large domestic car, say an Impala, you would probably find the Accord ride pretty harsh. I have become accustomed to the Accord's ride and handling, so I wouldn't have it any other way. One man's harsh, is another man's stable. Your own perception is reality to you, but not for everyone.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    I've never owned a large domestic car. I prefer small cars. I find the Accord's ride too firm regardless. But as you said, what you and I want in a car is not what others want. And if I drove on different kinds of roads than I do, I might not mind the Accord's ride at all.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    Interesting how the 2008 Accord seems to have borrowed several pages from the Sonata's book:

    * Increase in interior volume to break into the EPA large-car class, as the Sonata did in the 2006 MY.

    * Added ESC (VSA), traction control, and active front headrests across the lineup, as Sonata did in the 2006 MY.

    * Made four-wheel disc brakes standard across the lineup, as Sonata did for 2006 MY.

    * Softer ride--more like that of the Sonata.

    And then there's little details, like regular back-lit gauges and painted plastic faux aluminum door pulls, like the Sonata's. :(

    There's still a few tricks that Accord could pick up from Sonata, e.g. make the trunk bigger, put in a convenient 60/40 folding rear seat vs. one-piece, make satellite radio standard across the line, and improve the warranty. But maybe Honda is leaving those for the next-gen Accord. ;)
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Are you serious? Honda is doing absolutely nothing, because of Hyundai. The Accord has been growing every generation since introduction in 1976. I guess we are expected to believe this is all because of Hyundai? Please
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    Did I say it was "all because of Hyundai"? But tell us, what other mid-sized family cars offer ESC/VSA as standard equipment across the entire lineup (and which ones offered it before the Accord did)? What other mid-sized family cars have large-car interior room (and which offered it before Accord)? Why did Honda make the Accord's ride softer for 2008 (when you and others would say it was perfect already)? I just see a pattern here and thought it was interesting.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    When Honda offered ABS on their cars back in the early 90's it couldn't have been because Hyundai had it, because they didn't have ABS until 06 (talk about slow to catch on). The Accord, (and every other midsize car) has grown since the early 90's, and they have all added safety equipment. Hyundai was the reason for all of this, I suppose? The 7th generation Accord rode smoother than the 6th, and the 6th smoother than the 5th. Research and Development have made it possible to improve the ride, without sacrificing handling. I doubt Honda engineers even new Hyundai existed back then, so the chances of them being a factor in any of it is NIL. Hyundai is a "non factor", and no other car company cares what they do. It's only interesting in your twisted mind.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    Don't you find it just a little curious/interesting that Honda would make the interior of the 2008 Accord just big enough (for the LX and LX-P at least) to rate as a large car, and make a big deal of that in their marketing--just as Hyundai has done with the Sonata? And that Honda chose to make ESC/VSA standard across the Accord lineup when no other competitor except the Sonata has done that? And that a "softer" ride is suddenly considered an "improvement", when I didn't see you or other Accord fans complaining about the firm ride of your Accords?

    Here's a quote from C/D, from their long-term review of the Sonata, if you think Hyundai and the Sonata in particular is a non-factor and that Honda doesn't care what they do:

    It hasn't been until this latest Sonata that Honda and Toyota engineers have paid much attention to it. We guarantee it's now a thorn in their sides and they're losing sleep over how good the next generation Sonata might be.

    P.S. Hyundai offered ABS on the first-generation Sonata, long before 2006. ABS may have been offered on the Accord in the early '90s, but it wasn't standard across the the Accord lineup until later--2003, wasn't it? Also, did you know that side airbags weren't standard on all Accords until the 2005 MY, while they were standard on the Sonata way back in 2000?
  • Did I say it was "all because of Hyundai"?
    You didn't really state this but it did sound like it was implied. I make a point to drive Accords, Camrys, Altimas, Fusions and find I like my Sonata the best "for me". All models have "better" features in other aspects for different drivers, but the price I paid and what I have make the difference. If my Sonata treats me well for another ten years I'll buy another...unless some other manufaturer comes along with something different/better/bang for the $$$ model. I'll stick with Hyundai. Just like the Honda, Toyota, Yugo, Chrysler people. (had to put that last jab in)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    ...unless some other manufaturer comes along with something different/better/bang for the $$$ model.

    Yep, that's my strategy also. Whatever car meets my needs best, at the lowest cost, gets my money.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    backy, do you know when 4 wheel disc brakes became standard on all Accords and all Sonatas?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I was starting to look for the C/D article you quoted before, when I saw the Sonata listed under a very interesting list. It was called "Retirement Rides", Hahahaha. Maybe when I'm 85 years old I'll be ready for something with a mundane ride like the Sonata. I also noticed a quote from C/D. The Sonata reminded them of the previous Accord, so they think of it as a generation behind, just like I do. They also mentioned the suspension noise in the Sonata, so I guess it's not just something Consumer Reports dreamed up, huh? Want to guess which car is likely to be on C/D's top 10 list again this year. You can bet it won't be the Sonata, unless their reviewers are all ready for retirement. :P
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    For the Accord, the 2008 MY. For the Sonata, I'm pretty sure it was for the 2006 MY. I think before that, the base Sonata (GL) had rear drums, but GLS and LX had rear discs.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    No, I'm pretty sure the Accord will make C/D's 10Best list again, although if the new Mazda6 is out in time there's a chance it could supplant the Accord. I got a feeling reading C/D's review of the 2008 Accord that they weren't happy about its increase in size. And they always liked the Mazda6, another very good handling mid-sized car.

    Glad you liked C/D's long-term wrapup of the Sonata, including I'm sure the part about Honda worrying about the Sonata.

    Since you drive a car that is a generation behind the current Accord, maybe you'd like the Sonata?
  • Do you own stock in the Company Backy? ;)
  • You tell em backy did you also know the the 1999 Hyundai Sonata has passenger presence detector before the accord offered it in 2004,it disables the passenger airbags when no occupant is in the seat,even though ABS was optional it was still $3,000 or more cheaper than the Accord.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Since you drive a car that is a generation behind the current Accord, maybe you'd like the Sonata?

    If I would have bought an 03 Sonata instead of 03 Accord, I would have been a couple generations behind. And, since I'm not ready for the retirement village, and don't like suspension noise, I don't think I would like the current Sonata. Retirement Rides, I love it.
  • What i am talking about is Hyundai's safety advancements before Honda installed them in their own vehicles, both airbags deployed in the 2003 accord regardless if a passenger was in the seat or not.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Take a look at the crash tests for the 03 Accord and Sonata, and PLEASE tell me about it. Leg and Neck injuries are not a good thing in my book.
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