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Nissan Versa Brake Questions

The answer may be obvious to some, but I haven't owned a car in almost nearly a decade.

Do I need ABS if I am to purchase a Versa? What are the benefits vs. whatever the standard brakes on the Versa are?
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  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Nissan has ABS as less than 20% of the mix...Don't expect to see many with it.

    Mark
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    That is too bad. It is a huge advantage to cars like the Fit that make ABS standard.
  • bookhudbookhud Posts: 9
    I was just looking at the build and price feature for the Versa. I cannot believe that if you include the ABS that you cannot get the sat radio, sunroof, audio, or convenience groups. I was seriously considering the Versa, but if this does not change it will not be on my list at all.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    How do you figure that? It seems really stupid that Nissa would limit ABS like that.
  • doromachidoromachi Posts: 21
    I think the SL option also includes 15" alloy wheels and tires.
  • shado4shado4 Posts: 287
    I was just looking at the build and price feature for the Versa. I cannot believe that if you include the ABS that you cannot get the sat radio, sunroof, audio, or convenience groups. I was seriously considering the Versa, but if this does not change it will not be on my list at all.

    I get the same problem on the NissanUSA website. When trying to configure a Versa SL with ABS, the options for the convenience, audio and sunroof packages are not available. Also, if I select just the sunroof package I am forced to get the convenience, audio and sat radio packages as well, but no ABS.

    I hope it is just a glitch with the "build your own" configurator on the NissanUSA website, otherwise Nissan has some explaining to do! :mad:
  • wulfgarwulfgar Posts: 38
    I've been looking at the Versa at a local dealer and picked up the latest brochure. For what it is worth, it says that ABS can be ordered as a stand alone package on the SL and comes with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist. For the S model, one must also order the Power Package. Only Nissan truly knows as the dealers are still a bit clueless and I had the same problem with the website.

    The new brochure also states that the sedan will not be here until early 2007 - may be old news to some here but that is the first I have heard of it. No worries for me as I prefer the hatch anyway.
  • crimsonacrimsona Posts: 153
    In Canadia ABS is standard for the SL trim, if the nissan.ca website builder is to be believed.

    A fully loaded (hi tech package for SL combines both the music and the bluetooth options as one) CVT transmission Versa comes out to a whopping $1500 CAD cheaper than my Fit Sport Auto.

    Buyer's remorse? Perhaps...
  • wulfgarwulfgar Posts: 38
    We had the dealer search high and low for a model with the ABS option but none were in the pipeline. Does this seem odd to anyone? Especially on the higher cost SL model? We wanted an S with ABS and the dealer could only recommend that we order one with ABS. Seems like Nissan cheaped out on this one - especially for $ 250.00. Would seem cheaper to make them all with it to begin with.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    It's not odd--in this class only the Fit, Accent SE, and (if you consider it in this class) Rabbit have ABS standard. It is maddening though for people like you and me who want ABS. I hope ABS becomes more prevalent on the Versa over time. That will happen if buyers keep asking for it--especially if they walk out of the dealership if they can't find an ABS-equipped Versa.
  • canuck785canuck785 Posts: 160
    correct me if i am wrong but as far as i know the scion xB and xA both come standard with ABS...( i personally DROVE the xB a few weeks ago... ;) )
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    You're right--I keep forgetting about those Scions!
  • flightnurseflightnurse at 35K feetPosts: 1,524
    regarding ABS.... In 2005 when we bought our Altima SE 3.5 we wanted the Safety package which includes ABS, it took our dealer 2 weeks to locate one in the color we wanted.. For some reason Nissan doesn't think that ABS is really something people want. I would have thought Nissan would be equiping ALL of thier SL's with ABS...

    I had my dealer do a search for a SL w/convience package and ABS he could not come up with one in the western US..

    Tony :shades:
  • pardemapardema Posts: 2
    I just purchased my new S Versa tonight and am waiting to pick it up tomorrow, it seems just like the SL's the S's are not being equipped with ABS either. I wish I could have gotten a loaded SL, but money is tight so an S with the power package will be suffice. My dealer checked everywhere even the production line and could not locate any S's with ABS in both the Blue Onyx and Sapphire Blue. I'm excited 6-speed standard in the S is awesome! Let you all know of any problems in the next week.
  • flightnurseflightnurse at 35K feetPosts: 1,524
    congrats on the new car, as far as the dealer checking the production line, the only thing the dealer can check is what cars he has ordered from Nissan...

    Tony :shades:
  • pardemapardema Posts: 2
    Guess my dealer is full crap but I do know they can check all the other dealers in the area (mainly just Maryland) at least. Oh well either way couldn't find any with ABS which just seems odd anyways.
  • flightnurseflightnurse at 35K feetPosts: 1,524
    As I posted before, the versa was just released, give it couple of weeks and I'm sure ABS package will show up..

    Tony :shades:
  • peteinmplspeteinmpls Posts: 13
    Tony,

    From what I've seen thus far, you're the leading provider of first-hand knowledge among the initial Versa owners so keep up the good work! I'm very interested to see what your intial fuel economy numbers when you get to your first fill-up.

    So far, what's been the reaction of people to the Versa when you're out and about?

    Pete
  • peteinmplspeteinmpls Posts: 13
    To me it makes little sense that ABS is so hard to come by in the initial model mix for this car. I know that some people still prefer not having it, but don't the vast majority of buyers want ABS now...if not expect it as standard equipment?

    Also, the deal where you can't build a Versa SL with ABS if you include all the other options...that has to be a glitch in the configurator as others have pointed out. It obviously doesn't make sense that by including things like convenience, sunroof and sound upgrade that you'd have to delete ABS. It also runs counter to how the car has been equipped in most of the reviews thus far. But it's amazing to me that Nissan has let this slip. For anyone following this car via various discussion boards, everyone is pointing this out. You'd think Nissan would have had it corrected on their site within a few hours, not to mention it should have been picked up while testing the Versa page in the first place. (or maybe they've lost their minds at the 11th hour when putting together option packages??)
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    ABS an interesting option that most people have an opinion about that is not based in fact.

    Every government study and IIHS study on ABS reaches the same conclusion regarding ABS. There is no benefit at all.

    I know you don't believe me so feel free to follow these links:
    http://www.iihs.org/news/1996/iihs_news_121096.pdf
    http://www.iihs.org/sr/pdfs/sr3504.pdf see page 6

    THATS CORRECT, the IIHS FOUND initally THAT ABS OWNERS ARE AT A HIGHER RISK OF BEING IN A FATAL CRASH THAN NON ABS OWNERS!

    “Despite their impressive performance on the test track, there still is no evidence
    that antilock brakes are producing overall safety benefits,” says Institute president
    Brian O’Neill.

    ABS cannot reduce your stopping distance on Dry Pavement!

    ABS cannot compensate for Speeding.

    ABS cannot compensate for Tailgating.

    ABS cannot compensate for just plain BAD or AGGRESSIVE DRIVING

    ABS' only advantage is to allow you to steer while pressing your brakes as hard as possible. Accordingly, if you are in a situation where you have to brake as hard as possible and still steer to avoid the accident, you were: a) probably speeding and/or b) probably tailgating.

    Now will all this in mind, according to the order guide.

    Nissan decided that ABS will be put on 5% of S and 10% of SL.

    Mark.
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