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2009 Honda Civic

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  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    I know that Ford, Chrysler and Toyota have a way to disable. Not an easy button, though. You have to follow a series of pressing buttons and lock/unlock seat belts, etc. Ask anyone to borrow an owner's manual and you'll find it.

    The annoying part with the Civic is that even if you shift to park, the series of beeps will not stop.

    Another nitpick: Removing the floor mat from from drivers seat (for cleaning or changing) is unnecessarily cumbersome, and it's even harder to put back and fasten on the hooks.

    Also the "AUX IN" is difficult to access, especially with one hand. That cover has to come off. Who needs a cover for the AUX IN insert?

    OK, I think I'll stop already. Enough with the complaints.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    Removing the driver's side floor mat better be difficult in view of a recent law suit against Toyota (and subsequent recall) whereas the floor mat got stuck with the gas pedal and would not let go....
  • sinsdsinsd Posts: 46
    I agree- all the little complaints. What bugs the helloutta me is the rear drum brake. DRUM BRAKE! HONDA! WHY?
  • max09max09 Posts: 4
    I bought a 2009 Honda Civic EX-L Sedan about 3 weeks ago! I am from Hamilton, Ontario Canada.

    Dealers in the province of Ontario had a promotion going on until November 2 on all remaining 2009 Honda's of $3,500 off!

    On the Civic sedans it's $2,500 off the MSRP. I had a couple of prices of what i wanted to pay for the car before i want to the dealership. I was at the dealership for approximately 3 hours, trying to negotiate my price! The final price with all the fees and taxes was $25,900!

    How did anyone else do? This post is of course open to everyone, but i would really be interested in hearing those specifically from Canada!
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    I am not sure what is the exchange rate but I think you've got a pretty good deal.
    I bought "used" 2009 Honda Civic EX-L for my wife with 6000 miles on it back in July from a Toyota dealership for $ 18,000 (someone traded fully a loaded EX-L for Toyota Prius...).

    Normally. if a Toyota dealer doesn't have a Honda franchise, you can pick up quite a nice car because dealers try to stick with their own brand and they give you a pretty good deal on a different trade in.

    5000 miles later and one B1 service (oil, filter and tire rotation) the car is perfect.

    We also replaced windshield wipers with Valeo brand. These are not OEM Honda (quite a complicated design of the blades) but they are OEM on most European cars and are cheaper than OEM Honda wiper blades. In my opinion, they are better than OEM. Depending on climate, wiper blades should be replaced at least once per year (or every oil change). The reason I am saying this is because some 2009 models are sitting on dealer's lot for almost a year and rubber on those wipers goes bad.

    Another item to check is the tire pressure because people that prep new cars at dealerships (for close to min. wages) tend to over-inflate tires.

    Other ownership experiences.
    My wife first complained about the "second" tachometer display (speed) above the lower instrument cluster but after she got used to it she actually loves it. It shows you (in big numbers) what you need to know most - the speed!
    We also replaced the fabric floor mats with custom made rubber floor mats, both in passenger compartment as well as rear cargo trunk.
    One draw back is a relatively small gas tank. But I guess it's that way for a reason - you get a better overall average mileage with a lighter car!

    Happy motoring!
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    One of the favorite things I like about my Civic (or any Honda for that matter), is that they use the straight shifters. Unlike Toyota, which gives you the GATED SHIFTER (very ugly IMO, and not useful at all, I don't see the advantage). I would suggest Honda to keep it up and don't fall for those stupid shifters.

    One thing, though, which someone mentioned before, and both Toyota & Honda are accused for that, which I would like to see changed: Give the option for a car charger to work even the engine is off. You can not charge a cell phone or any other device with engine off (unlike all American vehicles, which gives you the ability).

    Interesting though, speaking about the battery, that Honda doesn't have a battery saver feature like most other manufacturers, especially domestic. Meaning, if you leave an interior lamp ON by mistake, it won't turn off automatically after a while, causing your battery to drain. Thankfully, they had the same problems with (more common) headlamps -- I had an incident with a 2005 Accord --, but that was recently corrected on most Honda models. Still need to do the same for interior lamps.

    Another minor improvement I would like to see in Toyota/Honda cars, to get rid of the intrusive trunk hinges, which limits trunk space & crushing cargo. Again, in this regard the US manufacturers are better. So copy them.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    I think it was mentioned on this forum previously that designs of Hondas (like most other brands) are based on frequent consumer's clinics where consumers fill out features that they prefer or what they would like to see on future models. I was on few of them myself.
    Only then some of these features are implemented into production.

    Gated shifter is a safety issue (so that kids bouncing inside the car, for example) do not accidentaly shift gears. All Subarus, for example, have that feature. You may not like it but most people surveyed probably do.

    Ditto car charger. If these were "live" and someone would leave some electronics plugged in, it becomes a fire hazzard.

    I agree with you on the lights accidentally left on and draining battery. One example, daytime driving lights on VW Jetta do not automatically turn off, when you turn the iginition key off. That is annoying. Typically, a small interior bulb should not drain the battery although in some instances and climates it might.

    Withe regards "copy them" - they did a lot of copying in the past and it seems that is now the other way around; i.e. US car manufacturers are copying them (in my opinion)!
  • Signed Scarborough ON Canada deal on Oct 31 2009. On the road (OTR) price is $24,999. No options / extras in this deal except wheel locks and touch up paint. Only regret (so far ... delivery is later this week) is that my first offer (accepted) didn't go into managers office lower :-(
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Gated shifter is a safety issue (so that kids bouncing inside the car, for example) do not accidentaly shift gears. All Subarus, for example, have that feature. You may not like it but most people surveyed probably do

    I disagree - I can just as easily shift down a gear in a gated shifter as in my inline auto shifter. To go past neutral or 3rd, You have to push the button on the lever. In my girlfriend's Hyundai Santa Fe, you just push forward and the gates guide you to park; no button necessary. I'd say its safer to have to make two steps to shift (button+movement) rather than just movement. At least the gates in my friend's old TL ('96) required one push down on the shifter to move it past Reverse or into lower gears.

    Whose kids are bouncing around the car while driving down the road? The driver should be buried under the jail for not buckling the kids up.
  • With regard to Honda's use of a non-gated shifter....it has garnered universal dislike in the automotive press for the ease with which it slides past D (drive using all 5 speeds) into 3 (I believe) which eliminates overdrive use causing the car to motor along in other than 5th gear with the driver mostly unaware. Can you say worse, relatively speaking, fuel economy? If I remember correctly at least one poster here also complained that he found his daughter consistently driving in 3 rather than D. It isn't too confining to follow the gated shift pattern found on Hyundai among others since you generally only shift from park to drive or reverse once or twice during any given drive.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    No kids should be bouncing - that was just a figure speech...although I have seen that around here quite a lot... for that matter, there are many other distractions like texting, handling food, smoking, animals running back and forth ... etc. that could trigger shifter to move...it's a jungle out there....
    I like the gated shifter and apparently many others as well...had it on my Subrau ....
  • max09max09 Posts: 4
    Wow! Is this for a 2009 or 2010? $24,999, does that include taxes & freight? I think no matter what price you get your vehicle for, you always think that you could of gotten better! I was very happy paying $25,900 for my 2009 EX-L!
  • Had my 2009 Civic LX-S ( 5000 miles) stolen from my driveway last week. Car was locked and I am still in possesion of both keys. No alarm was heard and car has not been found to date. This is my second Honda stolen from my residence in 7yrs. Either it's time to move or better start buying Lojack.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    Most stolen cars:
    Source: www.nicb.org

    1994 Honda Accord
    1995 Honda Civic
    1989 Toyota Camry
    1997 Ford F150 Series
    2004 Dodge Ram Pickup
    2000 Dodge Caravan
    1996 Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee
    1994 Acura Integra
    1999 Ford Taurus

    Hondas are stolen mostly for parts because thiefs can make more money on parts rather than on stolen cars - those are harder to "unload".

    Get a dog! The best alarm ever!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I'm surprised. I wonder how they got around the immobilizer key?
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    One popular way nowadays is towing the vehicle away. They push/pull/drag the car to a secure spot and then pull it on a tow truck.
  • I changed oil on my 2009 civic when it had 5000 miles on it. This was the first oil change. Being old school, I didn't want to leave the break in oil in past 5000 miles. Ever since then, my mileage dropped from 32 to 27 and the motor seems to start like the battery is low. Did I make a mistake by not leaving the break in oil in longer? I changed it in November just before it turned cold. This may contribute to it also. Any info would be appreciated.
  • jogousajogousa Posts: 402
    Assuming you've used the correct viscosity and OEM oil filter, earlier oil change should not effect your mileage.
    Could it be the "cold" weather? Not sure in what climate zone you live but that could have an effect on starting.
  • I used 5w20. It is in Michigan. The motor seems very tight acts just like the battery is low. It is inside overnight and has not been super cold. I have read that mileage drops but I never had a car drop so much. Does anyone know what makes the original break in oil so special?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    My mileage here (Birmingham, AL) dropped fairly significantly with winter-blend fuel. Combined with new tires, I'm down about 4-5 MPG from where I was over the summer on my 4-cyl Accord.
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