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Nissan Rogue vs Honda CR-V vs Toyota RAV4

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  • http://www.safercar.gov this is the national highway and traffic safety site. according to them all three are equally safe. :shades:
  • cdmuilecdmuile Posts: 152
    The choice came down to the RAV4 and the Rogue. We eliminated the Outlander, Escape, Vue, Tucson, Kia and CRV. Selling points for the Rogue were: Styling, fit and finish, engine/transmission, intellikey(sp?), HID headlights and overall handling. Minus points for lack of adjustable rear seats, not many cubby holes and no telescoping steering wheel. The Infinity sound system in our Azera is awesome, but the Bose system in the Rogue is double awesome!!!
  • cdmuilecdmuile Posts: 152
    Forgot to mention the lack of a rearseat center armrest under minus points. Five days driving it and we're lovin it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Every time I see a new Nissan Versa I feel like it should be wearing a beret because it looks so French.
  • Hello I am looking into buying my first new vehicle and I have been very interested in a crossover. I am going to test drive the Rogue before I make my final decision on buying a new vehicle. I will most likely buy the Toyota RAV4 v6 4x4. Since I work for Toyota I get it at slightly below dealer cost which is a superb savings for me. Even with the savings I just need to make sure it's the crossover for me. Plus the Nissan Rogue just looks so good. I think I will test drive it tomorrow if I can.
  • i've had my rogue for the last two weeks and already put 2000 miles on it and love it! my son and i did a lot of research between RAV4 vs. CR-V vs.CX-7 and Rogue. i don't regret it. didn't get a chance to test drive the RAV4, but did the CR-V and didn't like the light handling of it and less than stellar acceleration. the CVT takes some getting used to, but am averaging 26+ mpg combined (mostly highway) and haven't had any complaint with accelerating to keep up with traffic. got the SL AWD and love th Bose stereo and Bluetooth. this is my first AWD crossover (replaced a 2001 Grand Caravan Sport with all the bells & whistles) and don't regret it.
  • Ok I just test drove the Rogue and it was an awesome ride. If I wasn't a Toyota employee I would buy it, but I think I will go with the RAV4 v6 4x4 because I can save so much. Otherwise I would get the Rogue SL AWD which is totally awesome.
  • cdmuilecdmuile Posts: 152
    Yeah, the CVT definitely takes a learning curve. I've been driving it for a week now and still am the first one away from the stoplight! Gotta teach my right foot about modulation.
  • 38.....you're making a big mistake...........you'll have much more fun driving the Rogue, even though you'll be saving money...

    39.....my wife drove our new rogue for the first time today and discovered very quickly how quiet it is when you accelerate beyond highway speeds.....luckily, she slowed down before the state trooper caught her (he was too busy with New Year's Day drunks anyway...)
  • hackdhackd Posts: 65
    I would actually prefer the Rogue over the Rav 4 based on price and looks but to tell some one that buying a Rav 4 is a big mistake is not a credible comment. The Rav 4 has a history of quality and resale value which the Rogue can't offer. I also can't imagine how a Rogue is much more fun to drive then a V6 Rav 4.
  • It doesn't offer a V6. If It did I wouldn't have left the Nissan dealership without it (no payments for 90 days) I realize the 2.5L 4cyl is powerful... but I need a V6 in my 3500 pound crossover. I think the rogue is a very good car and Nissan did a great job on it overall inside and out.
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    I would also like to add to your comment that the fit and finish with a Toyota is by far superior to any Nissan. Nissan has always been in my book a downgrade from a Toyota product.
    I have never driven any Nissan that rode as good as a Toyota. Camry better than Maxima, Ultima has a very harsh ride.
    For quality and resale, Toyota wins that race by far. Of course, evryone has different opinions, and many may dis-agree, but I can tell you I love my Rav4, it is smooth and quiet, and best of all beats most SUV's in gas. It is a very sharp looking SUV, and is fun to drive.
    Toyota Lover......I've had 8!!!!!!!!!
  • Count me as in disagreement with you on a few things.

    "fit and finish with a Toyota is by far superior to any Nissan. Nissan has always been in my book a downgrade from a Toyota product." Your book only. A lot of Nissan owners will disagree.

    "I have never driven any Nissan that rode as good as a Toyota. Camry better than Maxima, Ultima has a very harsh ride." There's that word any again.

    "For quality and resale, Toyota wins that race by far."Owners of Toyota's with sludge problems will disagree. All cars can have their problems. Glad you like your RAV the V6 is a powerfull small SUV. But I traded my 4cyl RAV for a Nissan Rogue and find it quieter and more responsive and more fun to drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :)
  • hackdhackd Posts: 65
    What kind of mileage have you gotten with the new Rogue vs the old Rav 4?
  • Very similar RAV and Rogue 24mpg mixed driving 60%city40% highway. Rogue is probably +1-2 mpg highway.

    A few more thoughts on these capable crossovers. Both had good pep on the highway but the Rogue feels much quicker from a stop than the RAV and the RAV had this occasional tendancy to hesitate/bog from a stop...there are other posts about this issue. This was bothersome issue that probably led to my trading the RAV. I think it need a 5 speed tranny like the CRV.

    RAV has more cargo room, RAV had a 4 speed auto, Rogue has CVT with infinite ratios and is very smooth. Its different but if your style is to drive conservatively it is a very impresive, smooth quiet drive. If you tend to drive hard you will hear the motor working differently than you maybe use to with a standard automatic.The Rogue handles better, is slightly quieter, both are much quieter than a CRV on a coarse surface road. Rogue has better climate controls (more adjustments) unless you get a limited RAV with automatic climate controls.The Bose in the Rogue is easier to see the display and sounds a little better than the RAV. The Bose comes with XM, in the 06 RAV it was not available, don't know about the current RAVs. Little things in the Rogue are nice such as soft touch dash material, the pop-up trunk organizer that keeps packages from sliding all over the cargo area, lg glove box, 2 layer console, pin holders in the console, a cup holder that fits a cup... I know its simple but the 06 RAVs fit none of my travel mugs. Both are good little crossovers. But I look forward to driving the Rogue much more so than I did the RAV.
  • Are the engine and transmission for the 2008 Rogue new for this model or have they been tested in other Nissan's? I was thinking that if they are new to this model that the "bugs" have not been worked out. Can anyone advise me? Thanks
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Read earlier in the forum, and view some of the utube announcement videos. Your questions (and many more that you haven't thought about yet), will be answered.
  • i've now had my rogue for almost a month and have over 3000 miles on it and still love it! ride is very smooth, engine quiet, acceleration with CVT is excellent for a 4 banger (still getting used to the sound of the CVT - sounds like my clutch slipping terribly). love the Bose and XM radio - and especially the bluetooth. i have a great time with the moonroof! do about 10% city, 90% highway, and have been averaging 27-28 mpg (staying at 55-65). it's fun with the instant mpg calculator - i can play with going on flat roads at 50-55 and averaging 30-31 mpg. (now when my son drives it, it will average 21-24 mpg!)
    don't regret the decision at all - haven't driven the RAV4, so i can't compare with that. but compared to my 2001 Grand Caravan Sport (with Infiniti stereo, power seats, dual A/C) it's great!
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    neither the engine nor the transmission in the rouge is new. the engine is nissans QR25DE inline 4 cylinder that also is used in the 2.5 altima, I4 frontier truck, and the sentra se-r and SE-R spec V.

    The cvt is a varriant of the same cvt that nissan uses in all its 4 cylinder engines, the sentra, versa, and altima.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Only one of the vehicles mentioned here gets 25+ highway mpg and offers a 3500 pound tow rating - V6 RAV4. That was the end of the discussion for me. As far as the Rogue being more fun to drive, I suspect you haven't driven a V6 RAV4...that extra 100 horsepower makes this thing a rocket! Wheeeeeeeeeeee... :shades:
  • No argument on the RAV V6 power or towing capabilities. But if we are talking fun to drive/handling + interior style the Rogue does very well. And I bet if you drive the RAV V6 hard like a rocket you don't get 25+ mpg. ;) They are both tops in their class, imo.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Lift gate is a better solution than swinging gate.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    I bet if you drive the RAV V6 hard like a rocket you don't get 25+ mpg.

    Oh, of that I have no doubt...but it's fun to have when you want it.

    I have nothing against Nissans, years ago I had an 1988 Pathfinder that was a wonderfully reliable vehicle.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Lift gate is a better solution than swinging gate.
    Maybe you are shorter than I am; I have hit my head on too many liftgates to agree with you. And you'll never have to replace a flaccid strut on a swing gate.

    It would be nice if they could do both, sort of like the old station wagon gates that could either swing open or drop down like a tailgate depending on which handle you operated.
  • After testdriving the 2008 RAV4 V6, not once, not twice, but 4 times, I still bought a Rogue. And I enjoy hp. But the RAV had only that going for it, IMHO. Sure, it leaps out ahead of the pack when you barely touch the accelerator, and that can be useful in 2-lane road passing situations. But the Rogue, IT is so smooooooth. Having driven manual transmissions for many years, but wanting to move to an automatic, I much prefer that CVT smoothness. Yep, the RAV has more cargo space, but that wasn't top priority for me. The Rogue has enough. And there's no tire hanging off the back. And the better price for the trimmed out car was important to me. I have shopped Toyotas before and walked away for that same reason -- the higher price for a sparer interior. The Rogue is just an all round comfortable car -- better comfort in the seats, smoother ride, nicer handling, and I love the Bluetooth. I kept testdriving the RAV cuz I thought I should like it better, but in the end, not needing to tow a boat, but wanting some of the cabin comforts, I went for the Rogue.
  • Your right on on the $$$'s roguer08. I too almost bought a Rav4 but, just couldn't cut a deal w/Toyota dealer that I bought 2 new cars from in the past. So off I went looking at the other 2 [Nissan and Honda].....I never made it to the Honda dealer once I saw the Rogue and all you get for the almighty $. The Rav is nice but, couldn't get a Limited w/dark interior. The Sport is the only pkg that offered black interior and we wanted leather and all the other goodies, didn't care for the swinging rear door or the tire hanging off the back of it either. The CVT is great, no automatic compares to it.[unless there is a 75 or 100 speed automatic out there that I'm not aware of]
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Best of luck with your Rogues, seriously...but the CVT is precisely why I wouldn't consider one...I'm not interested in being a guinea pig for the long-term durability of CVT transmissions.
  • What are you taking about?. 2nd generation CVT and proven 4cil. engine. That's one of the strongest points of the Rogue.
  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    Maybe it will be the most reliable transmission ever, but I don't know that and neither do you...we don't know what problems might turn up long term, I'm talking like 8-10 years down the line. It is simply an unknown. Hopefully it turns out good for you.
  • Hard to tell. Even with automatic transmission is unpredictable to tell long term reliability. I have a 2002 honda oddy. and so far no tranny problems. Lots of people have had theirs replaced in some cases more than once. On the other hand, my 95 Geo Prizm(Toyota corolla) is reaching the 200k mark and the original tranny is silky smooth. Technically CVT is not supposed to suffer from gears wear like automatic wich makes it more appealing for people with lots of stop and go.
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