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VW Jetta Tires and Wheels

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  • jim314jim314 Posts: 491
    You got 112,000 miles from one set of 5 OE tires? Truly amazing!
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,705
    I would have no issues using 1/3 as a spare, other than the now 6 year "aged rubber" issue.

    Almost all (VW gen IV) owners vilified the GY LS-H's. Among other issues, they last TOPS, 50,000 miles. I did have to have them rebalanced @ app 70,000 miles ? (not sure without the records) as I experienced some front end shimmie @ highway speeds.

    After some research, I did purchase the Toyo TPT's @ 40-45k miles. I (as you can imagine) proceded to WAIT 72,300 miles- 67,300 miles. I actually pulled the GY LS-H's early, as the Toyo's by default were working well into the "6 year aged rubber" issue. I did buy 3 right sides. (5 TPT's as they are "uni directional ), as there is a little acknowledged tire related "inference".

    The Bentley's makes note ( the 2003 gen IV) that the front passenger side's: brake pads, rotors, struts, strut hardware and bearings wear faster and to inspect accordingly.

    By "INFERENCE" only, greater/faster right side tire wear. (It is a design torque steer quirk) I read very early on, the differences can have as much as 1/32 in greater tire wear on the right side WITH oem recommended 4 tire front to rear and vice versa rotations.
  • thatcher54thatcher54 Posts: 1
    I need to replace my rims on a 2006 jetta TDI. If I look for OEM rims what years are compatable in regards to lug bolt spacing and offset?
  • katorkator Posts: 1
    I own a 2009 Jetta SEL with 8000 mi that came with continental 225/45/R17 tires, so far i had to replace three of them one from a blowout and two others that developed bubbles on the side wall. Driving in the streets of NYC with huge potholes can be treacherous. My question is can i replace the original oem tires with a thicker one 225/50/R17 or 225/55/R17 - thanks
  • jim314jim314 Posts: 491
    Have you had any damage to the wheels in these pothole encounters?

    Be sure the existing tires are inflated to the highest pressure recommended by VW for the Jetta SEL with the 17" wheels. Given your driving conditions you might consider inflating the tires to higher than the recommendation on the tire sticker, say midway between the vehicle recommendation and the tire limit. So inflate to 40 psi if the vehicle recommendation is 36 psi and the tire maximum is 44 psi.

    The course of action with the least risk of unexpected problems is to buy a more durable tire in the OE size--225/45-17.

    If you wanted to go to a higher profile tire, I think you would have to go to 16 inch wheels, and mount say 205/55-16 or 215/55-16 ( which have almost the same overall diameter at the tread as the OE 225/45-17). According to Edmunds, 205/55-16 is OE on the Jetta S.

    But you would have to find out from VW whether the Jetta SEL would accept 16" wheels. It could be that the brake and suspension components of the SEL are larger than those in the lower trim level Jettas that come with 16" wheels OE, and would not fit inside the 16" wheels.

    The higher profile tires in 17" that you are considering would have a larger overall diameter at the tread and at the very least would cause the speedo and odo to be inaccurate. The actual speed of travel with the 225/50 and the 225/55 would be higher than the indicated speed by 3.6% and 7.1%, respectively. But more of a problem you probably would get contact of the tires with the wheel wells, frame or suspension. The rubbing might only occur near steering lock and if so would increase the turning radius, reducing maneuvering capability in tight situations like parking lots and making U-turns.

    Overall diameters at tread of these tires are shown below. The usual recommendation is when changing sizes the overall dia of the new tire should be within 2% of the size specified by the manufacturer.

    Dia 225/45-17 = (225 mm)/(25.4 mm/in) x 0.45 x 2 + 17 = 25.0 in (24.97 to 4 figs)

    Dia 215/50-17 = 215/25.4 x 0.50 x 2 + 17 = 25.5 in (25.46 to 4 figs)

    Dia 205/50-17 = 205/25.4 x 0.50 x 2 + 17 = 25.1 in (25.07 to 4 figs)

    Dia 225/50-17 = 225/25.4 x 0.50 x 2 + 17 = 25.9 in (25.86 to 4 figs)

    Dia 225/55-17 = 225/25.4 x 0.55 x 2 + 17 = 26.7 in (26.74 to 4 figs)

    Dia 225/55-16 = 225/25.4 x 0.55 x 2 + 16 = 25.7 in (25.74 to 4 figs)

    Dia 215/55-16 = 215/25.4 x 0.55 x 2 + 16 = 25.3 in (25.31 to 4 figs)

    Dia 205/55-16 = 205/25.4 x 0.55 x 2 + 16 = 24.9 in (24.88 to 4 figs)
  • jim314jim314 Posts: 491
    Tire Rack says staying within a 3% increase in overall diameter is a general guideline.

    "For cars and vans, staying within a 3% diameter change is desirable. Pick-ups and sport utility vehicles (SUVs) are usually engineered to handle up to a 15% oversize tire. Most tire dimensions can be calculated. For more information review the Tire Tech article, "Calculating Tire Dimensions." While at first a 3% diameter increase or reduction in tire diameter may sound very limiting, in most cases it allows approximately a 3/4" diameter change."
  • I'm looking to replace the original tires that came with my 2.5 Jetta, and I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions concerning potential replacements. The current tires are Michelin MX4s which have 46k on them and look well worn. I've priced them and they're not inexpensive, and would like to find something a little cheaper, but that will still perform. Any brands that I should avoid?
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    edited February 2010
    We had the same OEM tires. Just replaced this fall with ContiProContacts, the 91H version. Chose it because it was reasonably priced and rated pretty well amongst the H speed rated tires in recent CR test, good handling but decent winter performance too, according to their tests.

    Some of the tires that tirerack lists as replacements had a lower load rating of 89, I'm sure this is probably safe to ignore, but I mostly only considered those with the same 91 rating as the OEMs. Another thing I noticed is some of the tires were much heavier than others, I think I saw a range of 18-25 pounds. It may not really matter, but I thought it was better to stay close to or less than the weight of the OEMs.

    Looks like Michelin has a $70 rebate going, so they may not be too much more expensive. They also had a rebate going when I bought, but my installer was not included among the "selected dealers" that had this rebate and he was giving me a free alignment with purchase of 4 tires.

    One thing I did not like on those OEM Michelins is that they have only 9/32 tread depth to start, most tires have 10 or 11/32. With the new idea that you really should not go below about 4/32, I did not want to get those again.

    I think the Michelin Primacy MXV4 (not to be confused with the OEMs which are, or at least mine were, "Energy MXV4") were the highest rated in the category by CR, but when I looked at the details the difference between them and the Continentals was not all that great for the areas of interest to me. I also like that Continental gives a free one year road hazard warranty with their tires.
  • fleasedfleased Posts: 18
    Thanks for the input. I ended up buying Cooper Tires for my Jetta. With alignment it cost me about $750, which I can live with. What I'm not crazy about is the fact that the car now vibrates. I took it back to the shop and they said a couple of the tires weren't balanced. They said they rebalanced all of them and sent me on my way. Of course, the vibration is still there and although it's not violent shaking, it's enough to be noticeable and annoying. Anyone have a clue as to potential reasons for this? I miss my old worn tires at this point. The ride was so smooth!
  • ndmike88ndmike88 Posts: 155
    What type of wheel balance was used??? High speed balance is a much more accurate type of balancing.
    Another reason could be that several tires are "out of round". Do you have any of the stations that Tire Rack recommends to use in your area?
    If not go to a place that specializes in Corvette, BMW......mounting and balancing.
    Hope this helps.
  • fleasedfleased Posts: 18
    No idea what type of balancing was used. I called the guy at the shop (Tire Kingdom) and he invited me to come and see the read-out on the equipment showing that the tires are indeed balanced. That's fine, but if the car still vibrates, then it'll be of little comfort to me will it?
    If the tires are indeed out of round, then balancing is a moot point isn't it? What kind of recourse would I have then? Are tire dealers allowed to sell you tires that are almost round? Seems crazy.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    An "out of round" tire, would be defective and the manufacturer should replace for free.

    If this "Tire Kingdom" outfit is not capable of figuring out the cause of a vibration that was not there before tires were replaced, maybe you need to go elsewhere for the diagnosis?
  • fleasedfleased Posts: 18
    I guess I may have to, although I'm not keen on the idea of paying someone else for it when I've already sunk $700+ into the tires. I'm going in tonight to speak to them, so we'll see what they say. On the phone the guy brought up the possibility of other causes (brakes was one suggestion, which is silly since it's a problem when I'm cruising, not braking) and sidestepped my mention of them being out of round, so my hunch is that he doesn't want to deal with the defective product idea. Hope it doesn't get ugly.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    My thinking is if the place that sold you the tires tells you specifically that there is no defect in any of the tires and that they are all properly balanced and then you go elsewhere with your vibration and they find that the tires or wheel balance are the cause, then you would have a reason to go back to the first place and ask to be reimbursed for any costs that you'd not otherwise have had, or you could go back there before actually having the problem fixed and see what the first place wants to do. It's a hassle though...

    If the second place finds some other cause, then there would be no issue with the first place, of course.

    I once had a defective tire that made a subtle but noticeable vibration and had no problem with getting a new tire. I do not know how they determined that it was a defective tire. But when we had it, it was the front passenger side tire and the vibration was much more noticeable to the passenger (felt it most through feet on the floor) than it was to the driver...so maybe they moved the tires around and the vibration moved with the tire?
  • dddaytondddayton Posts: 1
    edited August 2010
    I am shopping for a new Jetta Sportwagen. Dealer showed me VW brand 17" and 18" wheel and tire options. Fine print said "suspension travel limits may need to be installed and rear suspension alignment may need to be checked" for these wider wheels. What do these caveats mean? Salesperson said "should be fine, have not heard of any problems, service manager says it will probably be OK". How can I resolve conflict between salesperson slick pitch and VW's printed recommendations. I plan to swap wheels and tires seasonally but do not want to check alignment twice a year. I would like to know 1) How does one limit suspension travel, what kind of part or adjustment? 2) How much travel is lost? 17" and 18" wheels range from 7" to 8" wide, all tires are 225 mm wide.

    Thanks for any help.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,085
    VWs formal printed documents ALWAYS trump the words of a sales-person.
    ...even if the sales-person writes their sales-pitch in blood!!

    From my experience, a car-salesman does not work at the same dealership for more than a year. Apparently there are a lot of "opertunitues for better employment" in that field of work.
  • capriracercapriracer Somewhere in the USPosts: 793
    If the wheels (and tires) came from the factory, then they will be fine. They check that sort of thing to make sure it fits properly.

    However, aftermarket wheels may have the wrong offset and the tires may be too big - hence the warning!
  • I just bought a VW Jetta S and I want to change the wheels that are on the car. It currently has the 205 55 16 tires and wheels but I found a set of wheels that are 215 55 16 and I wondered if anyone knows for sure if these would work?

    Thanks to anyone who can help! :)
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