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Honda Fit Interior and Passenger Comfort Concerns

jacintajacinta Posts: 6
I just bought my Fit a week ago and have had two stiff backs since then. Prior to my Fit I never had a back ache. Is anyone else having this problem? My last car was a Honda Odyssey where I sat up high. I'm 5'4". Could it be the lack of a height adjustment?
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  • Seats up:
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    Seats down:
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  • shneorshneor Posts: 66
    Dimensions I'm looking for are length and wideh of the cargo area with the rear seats folded flat. The volume only comes out to 30 cu.ft. This does not make sense to me, as I have 43 cu.ft. in my Mazda 323 hatchback, which is 6 inches lower and 6 inches narrower than the fit - and has a much longer hood. Or are the Fit's wheel wells huge?

    Shneor
  • Good point. That's interesting that the cargo area they give is so small. The interior should be identical to the US version in terms of dimensions. The US figures are 21.3 cu.ft. for the rear cargo area with seats up while the Japanese site says 380L (13.4 cu.ft.). The cars are identical in this respect, so its just the way they measured it. US figures for the seats down cargo area are "TBD" and 90.1 cu. ft. for passenger capacity.

    Dimensions:
    JDM (again should be same as US)
    1720mm (67.7 inch) cargo area length in utility mode (rear seats down)
    1385mm (54.5 inch) interior width at rear seats

    Regarding the head rests, you don't need to remove them. You can slide the front seat forward, move the rear seats down into utility mode, and then move the front seats back to the original position. The headrests slide underneath the front seat. This is what the animation on the Japanese website shows.
    Of course, I'm sure you can remove the headrests and store them under the front seat too.

    Here are some good animations that go over the interior.
    http://www.honda.co.jp/Fit/showroom/utility/index.html
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    It appears in the video that during the "sleep" mode the front seat headrests are removed. I am not sure what mode the question was referring to. They may have been referring to the "long" or "utility" modes like you, and as you said there would be no headrest removal.
  • shneorshneor Posts: 66
    Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I'm sure the interior height of the cargo area is at least 30". That gives about 60 cu.ft. (subtracting a bit for the curve of the upper rear hatch).

    Shneor
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    I did some trickery with the images posted recently and some calculations. Enjoy.

    P.S. I want the 14 inchers you can get in the U.K. and Japan. Why? Bigger tires in a small car eat into mileage and handling, plus they cost more to replace.

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    I get as a rough estimate, 38 inches or so wide and 32 or so high. Not the magic 36*36, but pretty close all things considering. When it arrives, though, I'll be sure to take a tape measure or maybe a 30*30*30 and a 36*36*36 box along.
  • P.S. I want the 14 inchers you can get in the U.K. and Japan. Why? Bigger tires in a small car eat into mileage and handling, plus they cost more to replace.

    Actually not. If you're willing to shop around you can get 185/55R15 tires at pretty reasonable prices--if you're a Costco member check around because they can get tires in that size for you. :)
  • jonniedeejonniedee Posts: 111
    P.S. I want the 14 inchers you can get in the U.K. and Japan. Why? Bigger tires in a small car eat into mileage and handling, plus they cost more to replace.

    Huh? I've yet to see a Spoon track Fit with 14's - their's and Mugen's hotted up F
    its go to bigger rims (16+) for handling
  • "I want the 14 inchers you can get in the U.K. and Japan. Why? Bigger tires in a small car eat into mileage and handling, plus they cost more to replace."

    You can have those wheels.
    The wheel sizes the US base model is getting are the exact same as the Fit in Japan and Jazz in Europe.
    USDM: 175/65 R14
    JDM: 175/65 R14
    EUDM: 175/65 R14

    In fact, the wheel covers are essentially the same as the 2001-2003 (Japan) or 2002-2004 (Europe) Fit and Jazz. They just put those black stripes on them.

    It is the Sport wheels in the US that have the slightly different specifications:
    USDM: 195/55 R15
    JDM: 185/55 R15
    EUDM: 185/55 R15
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Nice. The 14" wheels' turning radius is the smaller one, just like in Japan and the U.K., so the idea is to modify from there and maintain as tight handling as possible while making it more agressive at the same time.

    I'll probably get some 14" alloys though - I don't liek plastic covers much.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    These pictures may also help a little...
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  • quote-"The Versa is a nice car. Closest to the Fit, most likely. But, it has one glaring problem. The rear seats don't even come close to folding down, let alone flat or away, like the Fit or half a dozen SUVs do(RAV-4 comes to mind - superb hidden 3rd row option). "

    OK now I see your point and the brochure pic confirms it; the Versa rear seat is huge and when folded it takes up half the cargo space where most other designs fold flat or into the floor. I guess Nissan didnt figure this out yet. Also they quote interior volume as a measure of passenger space where everyone else talks about cargo space. Must be a French thing.

    The Fit's roughly 3000 litres of cargo space is HUGE compared to others I looked at; Rio Wagon with seats folded was 2400 litres; a Dodge Caravan has about 4000 litres with the seats removed so kudos to the Fit on interior design!

    Make mine a hybrid.

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  • There is no Fit hybrid, and it will not be a hybrid in the US or Canada either. The battery pack in a hybrid takes up an immense amount of room. Have you ever opened the trunk of a Civic or Accord hybrid or looked in the back of an Insight?

    Honda engineers spent a lot of time trying to get the Fit to have the amazingly versatile interior that it has. Sticking the battery pack for a hybrid in there would first ruin the possibility of Magic Seats and second take up room behind the back seat.

    Fit Hybrid? It won't happen until Honda is able to make more space-efficient technology. Whatever that magazine said was completely wrong, but I have heard that rumor before. Even in the October 2005 San Diego Union Tribune which listed all of the future cars said the Fit might be hybrid. Nope.

    Look for hybrid technology in the CR-V first.
  • What is the cargo length with the seats down in Utility mode? I have long items to carry along with 3 other passengers. Also, do the rear windows roll all the way down? One of the pictures I saw makes me think not.
  • stragerstrager Posts: 308
    I have a teenage family member, about to go to college who is very interested in the Fit. She is 5'1" and loves the Fit, but is not comfortable because there is no seat height adjuster.

    Honda offers the Fit with a seat height adjuster in all other markets. Could someone from Honda answer why it has chosen to delete this important feature for the U.S. market? Makes no sense whatsoever! :confuse:
  • kagedudekagedude Posts: 407
    If Honda added the seat height adjuster and all the standard accessories its missing, the MSRP will go up and will compete with the Civic. At the dealership, I noticed the Honda Civic coupe LX had a $17,060 MSRP sticker price. My Honda Fit sport build with the accessories below was $16,084 MSRP.

    Wheel Locks $54
    Cargo Cover $165
    All-Season Floor Mats $109
  • ansandovansandov Posts: 7
    That is strange, My Honda Fit 2006 Magnesium Color (Mexico)(Bough November, 2005) has the Height Adjuster (a Knob that you turn).

    I'm not a Tall Guy (5'6") and even at the "shortest/lowest" position I feel in great commanding view, actually I prefer the lower position, which is odd due to my height :)
  • ergoergo Posts: 56
    Good question! :confuse:

    5 years after it's debut in Japan, North America finally gets a decontented version. :mad:

    Approaching $17,000 there are MANY other cars worth considering. Unfortunately. :sick:
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    If VW didn't have their miserable reliability record, I would consider a Golf/Rabbit. That car seems to have most of the items on the Fit wish-list.
  • hungarian83hungarian83 Posts: 678
    I'm also surprised Honda removed some of the things that many (or all) of its Fit/Jazzes have in other markets.

    - fuel consumption (mileage) calculator
    - locking fuel filler door
    - seat height adjuster
    - rear disc brakes (all European models)

    These things would have all been easier to keep in than remove. I'm starting to think there might be a reason for moving the fuel filler door up a few inches, because that sort of thing is usually left alone unless something structurally was changed in that area.

    Of course, Honda did add side curtain airbags which I am glad to have.
  • RE: "...I would consider a Golf/Rabbit. That car seems to have most of the items on the Fit wish-list."

    Yes, plus the handling and general driving experience of the VW leaves the Fit in the dust. Better warranty also. It remains to be seen whether the reliability of the Rabbit/Golf improves. Maybe, since they will all be built in Wolfsburg.

    ---- Still loving my '96 Golf. Even a new Fit can't make my smile the way it does.
  • stragerstrager Posts: 308
    "If Honda added the seat height adjuster and all the standard accessories its missing, the MSRP will go up and will compete with the Civic"

    A seat height adjuster is an inexpensive, but important feature that is necessary for people of all statures to get a safe, comfortable driving position. Obviously Honda feels that drivers of the Fit in Europe, Mexico and other markets need this feature, but U.S. drivers don't. That's just dumb! In my opinion, NONE of the features of the Sport are necessary for safe driving, all are discretionary frills. The same applies to expensive alloy wheels, fuel consumption calculators, etc etc.
  • joey0708joey0708 Posts: 39
    i agree with you about the seats , i am just to short and i need the seat adjustment . i loved the room and what you can do with the seats , i also liked the drive . that is the one reason i have to say no to buying the car . i waited along time for the fit to come out , just wish it would have had the seat adjustment . with all the thought put into the car i was surprized it did not have the adjustment . i liked driving it better then the civic , and i wanted the space it gave me that the civic did not .
  • ross14ross14 Posts: 36
    Is it "Sexist" not to have adjustable seats? With one car, & a man(6'plus), & a woman(5'plus), one of the sexes is going to suffer. Is someone suggesting that every couple must have 2 cars? You know those drivers who seem to be peering through their steering wheels? Perhaps their seats have no vertical adjustments. Lets let the short: ride TALL. Non-adjustable seats may be discriminatory, so lets Thank Hyundai & Kia for liberating those with odd shapes!
  • verilyverily Posts: 2
    I'm a 5'2" female and have no problem with my seating position in my Fit Base 5MT. I tend to sit a little closer to the steering wheel because I feel like I get better control of the clutch, but my view over the steering wheel is just fine. I actually feel like I'm positioned much higher in this car than my previous car, a Mazda Protege.

    22000 CDN (~19000 USD) sounds pretty darn high for a Fit Sport. They seem to be marking it up a couple thousand over MSRP.
  • Although it sounds logical that a tall and short person sharing one car without seat height adjustment will mean that one will have to suffer, I don't think it's necessarily true. I don't know why. But I've often shared a car with someone much shorter than me, and we only moved the seat forward or back, and that seemed to do the trick, and that was on a wide variety of cars. I couldn't even say whether most of the cars had height adjustment or not, but it didn't seem to be an issue.

    So how about a survey... of people here who share a car with someone (spouse, whoever) of very different height... When you switch driving the car, do you change the seat height (if you can)?
  • stragerstrager Posts: 308
    I think if Honda tested a good size sample of short drivers, the seat height adjuster would be a must for a majority of the short drivers (but not everyone, just like you). I had a '99 Civic LX, which had the seat height adjuster standard. For the '96-'98 Civic LX, the seat height adjuster wasn't available. I've heard that Honda did the same with earlier Odysseys, where apparently enough customers complained, and then they included the height adjuster. I find this approach contradicts their "Safety for Everyone" slogan.

    Incidentally, I have a Scion xB which doesn't have a seat height adjuster. My 5'1" cousin (who wants the seat height adjuster on the Fit) had no problems getting comfortable behind the wheel of the xB. But she doesn't want a xB, she wants the Fit!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,748
    I sometimes change the seat height with my spouse but not always.

    There is something missing in this discussion about lack of a seat height adjuster. It's not just about the height of the seat, but the angle of the seat bottom. The Fit's driver's seat is high enough for me. But the cushion is too flat. Which means I have two choices:

    1. Move the seat back far enough so my thighs are supported and legs are comfortable. But that leaves the steering wheel too far away to be comfortable.

    2. Move the seat closer to the dashboard so my arms are comfortable. But on the Fit, that leaves my thighs unsupported and my legs (especially the right leg) uncomfortable.

    Two solutions could correct this problem: A) a dual-adjustable seat bottom as on cars like the Protege, Elantra, Accent, Rio, Forenza/Reno. B) a telescopic steering wheel.

    Note that I am not of an unusual size. Actually I am pretty "average": 5'10", 32" inseam. If I don't fit in the Fit, I am thinking many other people won't either.

    So I have to decide if the trade-off of an uncomfortable driving position overcomes the plusses of the Fit. I won't know that until I drive it. My closest local dealer is making that hard to do. They have their only Fit (automatic base model) under wraps (literally) until a special Fit Preview event on May 5. They said they would have 3 Fits there to drive. I asked if any of them would be a stick, and the sales rep said he didn't know. :surprise: At least they will serve food. :)
  • I'm just under 5'9", with a 30" inseam, and I was very comfortable in the Fit. But there is variation in people's individual builds, and as someone else said earlier on, sometimes it's also a matter of what you're used to.

    I mentioned elsewhere that I had test-driven a Mazda5 a few years ago, and your problem reminds me of that. I couldn't get really comfortable in it. In one position, the seat was a little too close, but in the next position back, it felt a little too far. But I only went up and back, I didn't even check to see if I could fix the problem via seat height or telescoping steering wheel, I don't know if those adjustments were available. (Though if they were, a savvy salesperson should have suggested them!)
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    Lots of chatter about this...
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