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Hyundai Santa Fe 2007+

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  • pelican19pelican19 Posts: 323
    Today it was 13 degrees. Brrrrr. Went out to start the truck to take the kids to school. Decided not to warm it up. Very sluggish in reverse until it warmed up. Otherwise smooth sailing. Resolution: WARM IT UP at least a minute. :)
  • guyfguyf Posts: 456
    +13F? It is Minus 13F here right now (-25C) . Just came back from training in my daugther Tucson. It took some time to warm up the cabin...
  • Hi all,

    At the risk of inviting considerable ridicule, I'll freely admit that I'm Canadian. Anyway, I've noticed in the case of the Santa Fe that there's a considerable difference in terms of trim levels and equipment between U.S. and Canadian versions. In Canada, the GLS is the highest trim level, where in the U.S., it's the lowest. One thing I've particularly noticed is audio equipment. With the U.S. versions, there's considerable choice, including the ultimate package with CD changer and 10 speakers. In Canada, we get a lowly 6 speaker system with single CD across all trim levels. I'm really surprised why this is. Any thoughts? Doesn't this complicate things for the factory? Thanks!
  • 07xle07xle Posts: 177
    Ask Hyundai Canada Marketing......

    Of course it is more complicated with the models but the Canadian audio non-option makes it a little easier.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    At the risk of inviting considerable ridicule ...

    There is no such risk. We have members from all over the world. Pretty neat, eh? :)

    tidester, host
  • doublehdoubleh Posts: 21
    i feel your pain. i tried to get my dealer to order a 6 cd changer from the US and install it for me, but they said the wiring was different. guess those bone heads in korea don't think canadians like 6 cd changers.
  • i feel your pain. i tried to get my dealer to order a 6 cd changer from the US and install it for me, but they said the wiring was different. guess those bone heads in korea don't think canadians like 6 cd changers.

    Agreed - difficult to understand. Unless the dealer can do a stereo swap at minimal cost, I'd say the new Mitsubishi is looking pretty good.
  • carritocarrito Posts: 38
    guess those bone heads in korea don't think canadians like 6 cd changers.

    actually SF is build in Alabama not Korea. 6 CD changer is not the only feature we don't get in Canada and Hyundai is not the only car maker that strips down some nice features. With Nissan we don't get the FAST key just to mention an example. I believe this is because car prices are already higher than in the States and to reduce the difference they remove some nice features; why not just make them optional? :confuse:
  • Miscalculated b/c cdn sales tax (gst). Considering this factor, i paid ~Cdn$1000 under msrp.

    Thanks for cabin cage reinforcement info. Does anyone know whether this is effective in roll-over i.e. i heard that volvo suv will protect occupants in such a scenario?
  • guyfguyf Posts: 456
    You can go buy your Santa Fe south of the border and save thousands of $$$; and get the options you like... ;)
  • re: 1801 I wish it were so simple then every Cdn, like myself, would be running south of the border to buy our vehicles. Unfortunately, most manufactures have an agreement with their dealers that they will not honour (sorry about the spelling but that is the way we do it in Canada) the warranty for a Cdn that purchased the car in the U.S. This also works the other way (suprisingly for example a Mercedes is usually cheaper in Canada than in the U.S.). In other words, they (the manufactures and dealers) have you by the what's its. I have been ranting against this price difference between cars being sold in the U.S. and Canada for quite some time but you can well imagine the success I have had in even getting the manufactures to explain why the price difference. I can't figure out why the Fair Trade people haven't gotten after them because, as you know, many models are made in Canada, shipped to the U.S., then sold for less in the U.S. than their selling price in Canada, even taking into consideration the difference in the value of our respective currencies. To me, that is known as dumping and that is against the trade rules. If any Hyundai person is reading this, perhaps they would like to respond.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,184
    NAFTA was supposed to fix all that but the car lobby is pretty strong.

    More here:

    Importing Car into Canada from US

    Importing Canadian Vehicles to the U.S.

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  • guyfguyf Posts: 456
    Hundreds of Canadians are doing it. Specially on Subaru's where the CDN price is so much higher than the US one. Check the forum on importing and lots of posts on Canadiandriver.com. My Volvo service manager confirmed that they would honour the warranty on a US imported vehicle. Last summer I could have saved $18K on a XC70 even after all the taxes (yes, including the 6% tax on cars built outside of North America) 2 reasons: the MSRP is lower in the States and the competition level between dealers is much higher. I don't know what Mercedes model you refer to but none are cheaper in Canada than in the States. For example a ML 320 MSRP is $58,300 CDN in Canada but $43,455. US in the States. At the current rate of 1.18 that equates to $51,276 CDN; so it is $7,000. cheaper south of the border!!!

    You do have to do your homework before importing to make sure that there are no major modifications to do on the cars and that the warranty will be honored. But for $18K less, maybe you want to take your chances with the warranty.

    I even start seeing ads in the the newspaper for outfits that will import the car for you for a fee.

    BTW the 6% fee does not apply to the Santa Fe as it is built in Alabama.

    Please do your research before posting ;)
  • Driving Television (a Canadian show on Global) will be airing an episode this weekend about importing new vehicles to Canada. For any one interested.

    Driving Television
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    New York Times:

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    A Korean Crossover Gets Its Green Card

    GROWTH SPURT Redesigned for Americans, the Santa Fe is larger and Alabama-built.
    By BOB KNOLL
    Published: February 4, 2007

    BY now, everyone knows that South Korean automakers have come a long way since their first halting attempts to sell tinny econoboxes to Americans. The distance Hyundai has traveled is no longer figurative; it can be measured in miles.

    The new-from-the-ground-up 2007 Santa Fe, for instance, wears the logo of the Seoul-based company, but it is as Korean-American as kimchee at a suburban A.& P. This larger, more substantial, car-based S.U.V. — a crossover, in the parlance — was developed specifically for American tastes. It was designed at the new Hyundai Design Center in Irvine, Calif., and rolls off a new assembly line in Montgomery, Ala.

    Read the rest of the article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/automobiles/autosreviews/04AUTO.html&cid=11132- - 93864
  • jtajta Posts: 17
    Well after substantial research and test drives, we (my wife and I) put down a deposit on a 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe Limited with Touring & Ultimate package. Now for the questions.....

    I wanted a Black Santa Fe with Black Leather interior. The dealer first tried to tell me they haven't made any in this combination ???? How can this be?? The combination is listed in the brochure. They tried to tell me they won't be making this combination till April at the earliest. :confuse:

    They also tried to tell me that they maybe had some on the west coast because they are coming in from Korea ?? It is my understanding that the 2007 North American Santa Fe is made in Alabama ?? :confuse:

    They did show me their search results for a 2007 Black/Black with T+U with XM radio, and it did show NO RESULTS. :cry:

    So, we worked out a deal, $27,900.00 OTD with my trade worth $2600.00. I put down $500.00 and they have to find one. I'm in no hurry, so I'm willing to wait for what I want. But I believe they just wanted me to buy what they had, and started the BS machine.

    I hate car dealers. Most (not all) are scum bottom feeders. I have found on numerous occasions, I knew more about their products and industry than they did. I prefer to deal with educated, no bull people. Treat me right, and don't try and BS me. When the BS machine starts, they get very aggravated when I prove them wrong. ;)
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Most (not all) are scum bottom feeders. I have found on numerous occasions ...

    I think we should avoid making such generalizations based on limited data.

    tidester, host
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    1. Santa Fe is made at the Alabama plant

    2. Black on black is available. Perhaps your dealer still does not have the allocation, which is weird. My suggestion would be to ask your dealer (since you already have the deposit down) to find one from another dealer nearby.
  • You know what you want and you're willing to wait... that is exactly what I did and my dealership kept looking since December for my 2007 Santa Fe Limited AWD in Dark Cherry Red/Beige interior equipped with only the standard equipment(no options!). I gave them a deposit, sat back and they did all the work, and now we are very satisfied with our new purchase.
    By the way, you can 'order' what you want, but must wait for them to run a batch of the Black Limited beauties... just sit back and wait... it will come... eventually... good luck!
  • Hello Everyone,

    I have had a 2007 Santa Fe Limited AWD for less than 2 weeks. I love the vehicle and up until today everything was fine. I just noticed a few hours ago that the outside temperature displays as 68 degrees when it is approximately 11 degrees here in New Jersey at the moment. I plan to call Hyundai Customer Service about the issue to inquire about it, but thought some of you might have a quick answer since I could not find anything in the manuals. Does any of you know what might cause this or how I may quickly fix it? I know the car is brand new and under warranty, so I am not worried, it is more of an annoyance than anything else.

    Thanks,
    Pete
  • how much is the dealer hold back on the santa fe also how much is the gas cost the factory charges for the gas they put in the car and last how much goes to the penson plain. when i go to the dealer i want to be ready. i have a 2005 now .the dealer that i bought it from was one of the worst dealers at that time. we didnt know that at that time.i have found out that the dealers are not traing there staff on the new cars.they are saying one thing sale sale sale. some even dont know that there is a outside temp reading on the dash. thanks jim :confuse:
  • use the search feature. this has been covered extensively.
  • Limited data? His comments are based on his personal experiences. He did say "most not all" and "numerous occasions".

    I think his remarks are fair. My experiences are also in the same category.
  • I agree but he used the term "bottom feeder". In the past I would have described them in the same way but as many veterans of this site will tell you thats a no no. "Political Correctness" and civility are the norm here. Choose your words wisely or you WILL be spoken to. I have found this site to be an extremely import source of information and being civil was a small price to pay...JMO
  • This issue has been documented by Hyundai Service and they have a fix for it. I have seen the TSB on it it, not a big deal. Just let the dealer know about it and they will have you come in to have it fixed. IMO it is a big deal since it causes havok with the AUTO feature for climate control. If I find the TSB I will e-mail it to you for your reading pleasure. Or not since your e-mail is private. I will post the TSB number and a short descrp.
  • Technical Service
    Bulletin
    Group
    ENGINE MECHANICAL
    Number
    06-20-003
    Subject
    INACCURATE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE SENSOR
    Date
    NOVEMBER, 2006
    Model
    2007 SANTA FE (CM)
    CIRCULATE TO: [ ] GENERAL MANAGER [X] PARTS MANAGER [X] TECHNICIAN
    [X] SERVICE ADVISOR [X] SERVICE MANAGER [X] WARRANTY MGR [ ] SALES MANAGER
    DESCRIPTION:
    Some Santa Fe (CM) vehicles equipped with either the manual HVAC and optional trip
    computer or the Fully Automatic Temperature Control may display an incorrect outside
    temperature. On the FATC system, the air conditioning control module [A] may display
    140 F constantly. On the manual HVAC system with the optional trip computer, the trip
    computer display may read 68 F initially but disappear when the functions are cycled
    through. In either case, the correction procedure is the same.
    Air conditioning control module Trip computer
    VEHICLES AFFECTED:
    Model: SANTA FE
  • I have two friends in New York who also have the same model I have. We are all having similar issues with the cold.

    Heated seat buttons stick below 30 degrees F.
    Radio display gets all wigged out.
    Air Quality monitoring button sticks below 30 degrees F.
    Washer fluid lines freeze.

    All 3 Santa's purchased at different locations throughout NYC. We are willing to give a pass to the washer fluid issue since we think the dealers just used a poor quality or watered down batch of washer fluid during re-fill on initial service.

    Current fix for the buttons and radio display : LET IT WARM UP. ;)
  • While I was pricing out a Santa Fe on CarsDirect.com I noticed something no other dealer or description has pointed out (even Hyundai's own site does not have this).

    Option group 34 (premium+touring) includes Trailer Prep Package .• Transmission Cooler .• Upgraded Radiator & Fans

    Does it really have these included or is CarsDirect wrong?
  • This is my first post, but I have been reading for well over a year. I belong to other forums (non car related) and post there all of the time, just never needed to post here until now.

    Anyway, I originally wanted a new Pathfinder, but it was too costly. For the past year I have been sold on the Santa Fe. I will be trading my '03 Jeep Liberty in next month, most likely for a new Santa Fe. I will never buy a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep vehicle again. Nothing but problems! Wanted to go Asian this time.

    I have cut out all of the competition for varying reasons, CX-7 (4 cylinder, poor towing, don't like the look, more car like), Suzuki XL-7 (really long, window button in the middle [have this in my Liberty, HATE it], although Japanese still made by GM), Toyota RAV4 (ugly IMO, darn tire on the back, opens the wrong way, would like the engine), Sorento (no independent suspension, nice engine but bad gas mileage, no updates), X-Trail (nice sun roof, only 4 cylinder, poor power), Honda CRV (ugly IMO, 4 cylinder, poor power), X-Terra (love the look and engine, no leather, no luxury).

    Warranty is a big factor, so I narrowed it down to the Santa Fe and the Mitsubishi Outlander. The Outlander is out in Canada this month, so I will test drive it. Also, I will be going to the Toronto Auto Show to see everything. I'm leaning towards the Santa Fe, but I can't rule out the Outlander.

    Outlander has Navigation, great stereo, bluetooth and I like the look. I lacks driver lumbar support, dual climate control, only black leather (hot in the summer), passenger power seat, poor vanity mirrors, nice 3rd row seat, no telescopic steering wheel, no memory seat, loud wind noise on highway (really annoys me in my Jeep), clunk in engine?

    Sante Fe lacks Navigation (can definitely live without) and powerful stereo (really want), poor entry illumination, slow off the line engine, no memory seat.

    As you can see, I've pretty much made my mind up, but I'd appreciate some extra insight, for or against what I've said. Anything I missed? I will test drive the new Outlander and look at everything thoroughly at the CIAS. Sorry for the "novel" on my first post.
  • Its real simple. Do you want Luxury or sport? Mitsu = Sport, Santa = Lux. Also, I may be bias since I own the 07 3.3 AWD Limited but my truck is pretty quick off the line and around town for a 4klbs + SUV. My Pontiac has 300+hp. Thats quick. I keep reading posts that say the Santa is slow. IMO not for such a heavy 3.3 with only 242hp. I think expectations are too high. The Outlander is awesome from a sport perspective. The santa is ok in that area but it was meant to be an attempt at lux + very safe and nimble when you want to go off the beaten path. The only thing I am planning on adding to the Santa is HID's, NAV and some real tires that grip better. The OEM version tires are not well suited for off road mud and snow. Good luck on your final desc.
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