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Go Green By Driving It 'Til The Wheels Fall Off



  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,980
    edited July 2012
    Plugs and wires were done at 124k back in May, 2008, so only 52,000 miles ago.

    while I'm in here, I might as well do this

    Sounds like home remodeling. At least when you change out the plugs, that doesn't make the battery look dingy or the air filter housing look outdated. :)
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I think before I did all that refurb work, I would be checking out the junkyards for a decent used engine. It can't be that horrible a job on an Escort and would probably have the car up and running faster.

    Just my .02.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    If the car wasn't running currently, I would strongly consider that. As it is, I am not convinced that any used engine out of a yard would be in any better running condition than the one I currently have.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Good point. If you could get lucky and find a low mileage wreck, otherwise your plan may be better.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,661
    How many miles on this engine? Is it burning oil?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    I'm just about to turn over 160,000. It loses a little bit; perhaps a quart+ every 3,000 (I tend to put around a gallon of "make up oil" in it every year between changes). I don't have the hose to the PCV connected, though, and it does send a little bit out that way (not sure how much that adds up). I'm sure some of it ends up in the cylinders, but not enough to observe any blue smoke out the tailpipe. It doesn't have any leaks on the engine, though, so oil loss must be through one of these other means.

    Sorry for the slow reply; had a bit of an emergency last week that put me way behind on everything, including visiting Edmunds! :blush:
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,661
    edited July 2012
    Well that's not an oil burner, so internally the engine is probably okay. your leak down is probably a valve issue then--so a new head would fix that. I usually dont' recommend a new head on an oil burning engine.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    Meaning that I shouldn't bother pulling it apart, or that it is worth the effort to do so because the major components are likely to be in good condition? If the former, any thoughts on what else might be causing the excessive pressure in the crankcase?
  • biomanbioman Posts: 171
    I don't want to make waves or controversy, but why is this thread here? By repairing older vehicles you are not being that green. I could better see threads like this in a forum deal with keeping older vehicles rolling or a forum dealing with restored vehicles. Most of the last few discussions did not involve the Prius.

    Just m2C.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,269
    It's here because somebody wanted to discuss it. One of the best aspects of the Edmunds forum is its breadth, not to mention the voluntary nature of participation in discussions held within. ;)
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,661
    Well I think one could argue quite persuasively that rebuilding an old car is "green", in the sense that it takes quite a few barrels of oil to make a new car---even one whole barrel just to make a new tire.

    It's an oblique way of interpreting what "going green" means---it's the "conservation" angle IMO.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,980
    edited July 2012
    Four Rs of recycling:

    Reduce, reuse, recycle and repair.

    For the classic car crowd, add restore and rebuild.

    If you a geeky tinkerer, then convert it to CNG and reinvent it.

    If you're a gardener, then substitute rot for repair (which is what your old car will do in your yard if you don't keep it running ;) )

    Okay, 8 Rs of recycling.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,594
    Plus, I imagine it would take a lot of energy to dispose of and recycle an old car. Unless you just retire it out to the back forty and let it rust in peace.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    Clever play on words!
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,071
    Reduce, reuse, recycle, repair, and R-body?
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,661
    However, it is, IMO, a myth that a modern country could "conserve" itself back to energy independence.

    At best, we can mitigate the downward spiral by conservation.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,980
    We're counting years before trading, not miles.

    Ford 6.02 years
    Infiniti 6.1 years
    Lincoln 6.79 years
    Mitsubishi/Buick 6.92 years (tie)
    Jaguar 7.0 years
    Volvo 7.05 years

    "Recent data from show which car brands Americans drive the longest before they exchange them for new vehicles."

    Which Cars Do Owners Keep Longest? (Wall St Journal)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,980
    A journalist is looking for proud owners of cars 11+ years old to ask why you love your car. If you love your old car and would like to share your story, please send your daytime contact info to no later than Monday, March 4, 2013 at noon PT/3 p.m. ET.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    edited March 2013
    6 years for our 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. Still love the car and it's exhibiting the coolest engine scrolling these days. We're gonna head over to Las Cruces to this Chinese fast food place tomorrow, then head the short 45 miles south to El Paso to shop.

    I need a pair of black scrubs. Cardiopulmonary employees have two scrub color choices: maroon or black. Need me a dark, black pair of scrubs. There's a strip mall with a scrub store located between Las Cruces and El Paso on the way south to El Paso I'll check out. And I'll open up those 4 cylinders on the Mitsu, too. ;)

    That's what I'm talkin' about!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,980
    "For local dealers, it's just a paycheck. "I don't know why Americans don't fix their cars after an accident and keep using them," salesman Abdullah said. "Perhaps they have so much money they don't care? Anyways, we sell 'em all."

    Smashed U.S. cars get a second chance in Afghanistan (LA Times)
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