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  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    I've spent a decent amount of money on widow regulators and hvac controls on my expedition and suburban that aren't covered under a powertrain warranty and failed long before 100k miles.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,038
    >I was joking about the lawn mower.

    I wasn't. He really has had trouble with his Honda mower. Another neighbor who mows the lawn for the Honda owner has to use his 22-25 year-old Toro to mow the lawn.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    My dad has a honda mower and snow blower and my fil has a toro. All have had starting issues due to lack of treating fuel. I had to have the carb rebuilt on my Briggs and stratton powered lawn tractor at two years old. The shop told me ethanol is hell on carburetors if allowed to sit. I installed a fuel cut off and I run the fuel out of the carb and I've not had a problem since.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    You need to roll up and down your own windows, like I do in my Cobalt. ;)
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    Lol. Yeah, my daughters have only seen crank windows are a few times and they had to ask what the crank was for.

    Are crank window available in a cruse?
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    I don't think they are available in even the cheapest Cruze, although I'm not sure.

    My daughter (high school sophomore) had a friend who climbed in the back seat last summer and said, "Cool! Crank windows!".

    I remember when power windows in anything but a Lincoln or Caddy was like, "la dee freakin' da!".
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    edited January 2013
    Me too. My grandpa had power windows in a late 60's or early 70's Bonneville coupe he had, but I don't really remember it. His next car with power window was in his 87 caprice. The first car my dad had with power windows was a 92 crown Vic.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    My Dad was a guy who'd say, "Ahh, just something else to break" so he'd never have power windows. He didn't have an automatic transmission until August 1974, and never had A/C until December 1983!

    I think I've become my Dad...sort of!
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    Yes, power windows seem expensive to maintain and repair, and really don't add much function. I'd take the discount if offered for crank windows; unfortunately, most cars today don't offer that.

    As to extended warranties, if I felt I was buying something that would need the use of an extended warranty, I'd probably buy something else.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,846
    My Dad was a guy who'd say, "Ahh, just something else to break" so he'd never have power windows.

    My Granddad was the same way, although the last two vehicles they bought, an '85 LeSabre and '85 Silverado, both had power windows. The LeSabre never had a failure in the 18 years and 157,000 miles we had it.

    However, I do remember the Silverado's driver door motor failed back around 1991, when I was in college. It failed again...I forget when, exactly, but I finally broke down and had it repaired in late 2008. I think I put it off for about a year, maybe a bit longer. And, in late 2011, it failed again. However, this time, the motor still runs, but something came loose. Dunno if I'm going to bother getting it fixed, because it gets driven so rarely these days.

    My other grandparents, on my Dad's side of the family, first got power windows in 1985 as well, on their LTD. Their '89 and '94 Tauruses also had power. Never any failures, but they also never really kept their cars for very long.

    My first power window car was a 1969 Bonneville 4-door hardtop I bought from my cousin for $400 in 1992. Its windows all worked, although the car itself usually didn't. :blush:

    I used to not care so much about power windows versus crank, but now I've gotten so spoiled by them, I've thought about seeing how much it would cost to get my '67 Catalina convertible retrofitted with them. It might not be *that* bad, as I'm sure they put the window switches right where the crank handle would normally be.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,496
    Thinking back about power windows - T-Bird had them of course, Tempo actually had them, Blazer had them, Taurus had them, Horizon didn't - and strangely enough, Ciera didn't - and it was otherwise well equipped (plush interior, wire wheel covers, etc).

    Power windows weren't even possible on a non-grosser MB until around 1970, I think.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,116
    edited January 2013
    Seems like my Dad. He didn't have a car with power windows or an AM/FM radio until he bought his new Ford Thunderbird in 1981.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,173
    No crank windows.

    No Cruise Control available on the Snuze at any pricepoint. Dealer will install if aftermarket if you want it...
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    edited January 2013
    I'll buy the crank windows, but I doubt the cruise control. I'll check it out myself. My guess is you're not seeing it because it's standard on all but the LS model.

    Did you see how far off-the-chart (the wrong way) the Focus is for problems, if you follow CR? Like 100% off average.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,173
    Then they've added it on. 2011 you couldn't...
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    edited January 2013
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,173
    YAHOO? lol.

    My proof came straight from a dealer in 2011. No CC available, but would add it on for $525.00... Even said it with a straight face when he told me

    "There is no Standard Cruise Control available in the Chevy Cruze..."

    Maybe they added it on when they redesigned the steering wheels so they wouldn't fall off...
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494
    edited January 2013
    You clearly didn't open the link. It was the 2011 Cruze ordering guide, from Chevrolet.

    Your dealer was a putz--clearly a possibility.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,173
    Those yahoo boards are blocked here at work, so it's not that I don't believe you but I personally never use them as a valid source...

    I've done a bit of searching and all I came up with was no Cruise available on "Manual transmission" models. But nothing really directly related, just some Op pieces...
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