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GM News, New Models and Market Share

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    2nd one, as explained by the Chief Engineer:

    http://youtu.be/9rz3QO_wbno
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Just announced.

    Ford had a big Q4 as well.

    Let's see how GM did...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    4 out of the top 5, wow!

    http://www.insure.com/car-insurance/passenger-injuries-2013.html

    None in the bottom 5, either.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,931
    "A disturbing new report by a government watchdog found that the U.S. Treasury Department "failed to rein in excessive pay" at General Motors and two other companies in 2012 following a government bailout.

    Sixteen of the 69 top employees at General Motors, Ally Financial Inc. and American International Group Inc. received 2012 Treasury-approved pay packages worth at least $5 million or more, the report said. Ally is formerly General Motors Acceptance Corporation, Inc."

    Report Faults U.S. Treasury for Excess 2012 Pay at General Motors
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,445
    edited January 2013
    Nothing new here...

    I'm starting to think the French general population was on to something in the way they treated Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette...
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    You fail to understand that "not having a recall" is not always a good thing. It could mean there's no problems to fix...or it could mean they're refusing to take action until the government forces them to do a recall.

    It might be very interesting to look and see how many voluntary recalls a manufacturer has initiated, versus how many have been enforced on the same manufacturer.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,445
    edited January 2013
    I suspect someone didn't bother to read the linked-to article...


    Sixteen of the 69 top employees at General Motors, Ally Financial Inc. and American International Group Inc. received 2012 Treasury-approved pay packages worth at least $5 million or more, the report said. Ally is formerly General Motors Acceptance Corporation, Inc.


    "In stark contrast, the 2011 median household income of U.S. taxpayers who fund these companies was approximately $50,000," the report said.

    The report was published on Monday by the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program or SIGTARP.

    "SIGTARP found that once again, in 2012, Treasury failed to rein in excessive pay," the report said. "SIGTARP previously warned that Treasury lacked robust criteria, policies and procedures to ensure those guidelines are met. Treasury made no meaningful reform to its processes."


    What does any of that have to do with recalls?
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    What does any of that have to do with recalls?

    Nothing. He needed to change the subject. :)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,931
    edited January 2013
    It looks like two different threads to me. My post was titled SIGTARP. There was a reply to your post with the "changed" recall title (the point being GM didn't have one...today).

    It's easy enough to change the post title when you reply to someone (and it's often helpful to do so).

    Moving on.

    Shall we recall some execs or at least clawback some money? But who would work there for half those wages? :shades:
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,698
    And in related news today... GM didn't have a recall.

    When I saw that headline this morning I knew it wasn't going to be long before somebody (probably you) posted it.... :P
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,698
    Shall we recall some execs or at least clawback some money? But who would work there for half those wages?

    You know, it's not all about money. GM's board should find some up and rising smart middle managers who think out of the box (possibly not even from the auto industry) and put them in significant positions at GM. They can definitely use some younger blood with new ideas.

    On another note.... RIM (telecom company) in trouble, rebrands the company... now known as Blackberry. American Airlines in Chapter 11... has just announced a major branding change with a new corporate logo and the first new livery (paint job) in over 40 years. GM, bankrupt .... no rebranding, no logo changes, no name changes. IMHO a major mistake, as we all see the same old with a bit of improvement.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,345
    Geez, a lot of people are sure touchy about a GM competitor having...another ginormous recall.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,345
    Busiris: Note that the subject line says "Toyota has another very large recall". It's simply easier to do than starting a completely new thread. I doubt anyone was confused by the context.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,627
    I have one of those already, it's called a garage....
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    edited January 2013
    Note that the subject line says "Toyota has another very large recall". It's simply easier to do than starting a completely new thread. I doubt anyone was confused by the context.

    A pretty lame title. Poster could have at least said something less lame, such as: "Toyota has large recall, GM did not". Or some such. Might just pass a smell test.

    Use to be that hosts kept tighter rein on postings sometimes relocating misdirected posts to proper boards or just removing them. They also periodically reminded posters to stay within thread overall subject so that new visitors to Edmunds forums who expected to see something relating to the subject would find it.

    I am just as guilty as others at times in going off on tangent within the message. But, intentionally starting a new post with a title having nothing to do with GM is outrageous.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,699
    edited January 2013
    Most important is the problem indicated in the link text about this being the fourth time since 2010 that toyota delayed the reporting of the recall...

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130130/AUTO0104/301300365#ixzz2JTA0JPCh

    "...had a report of an inoperative wiper in May 2008, but said despite more reports "there was no clear trend and the failure rate was very low." Toyota adjusted its assembly process in July 2009 and then in July 2011 switched the wiper arm nut assembly for one used with other Toyota and Lexus models — but the company didn't opt to recall the vehicles until it investigated for another 18 months."

    The article also points out that toyota has led 3 out of 4 years, in recalls that is. Along with greater sales goes the problems of cars failing. It's not the perfect world anymore; everyone has failures with something going wrong.

    I'm looking around to decide what car to replace and which of a large variety of replacements I could choose. Can I trust toyota and Honda to fix things that they find wrong? Or will they stall recalls to try to keep the buzz good? Or would a used model have defects that have been overlooked in the reporting and kept out of recall status just to affect the buzz?

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,599
    You know, it's not all about money. GM's board should find some up and rising smart middle managers who think out of the box (possibly not even from the auto industry) and put them in significant positions at GM. They can definitely use some younger blood with new ideas.

    They tried that back in the early 90's when John Smale (former head of P&G) became chairman and implemented a branding strategy that said people don't care what the cars can do - it's all about the brand. How did that work out?

    On another note.... RIM (telecom company) in trouble, rebrands the company... now known as Blackberry.

    That's all part of the new product launch. People love their Blackberries - they don't necessarily know that Research in Motion is the corporate name.

    American Airlines in Chapter 11... has just announced a major branding change with a new corporate logo and the first new livery (paint job) in over 40 years.

    Again - it's a new start for AA. But it's also an issue with the technology of their new planes. For years, AA was known for it's polished aluminum aircraft. It was distinctive and allowed for better fuel efficiency - a painted aircraft costs more to fly because of the weight of the paint. Their new planes are carbon fiber - the polished aluminum look can't be achieved. Further if they merge with US Air, they were going to have to strip all those planes. Going to a white base will save money if the merger goes through.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,931
    We're here all the time. It just works better to lay back a bit and let the community remind people to keep on track (members like you, in other words).

    The "King of the Recalls" thread has been going on in here for at least a year now btw.

    On the leadership note, Mulally has done a good job at Ford. Other "out of the box" managers haven't done so well (the Pepsi guy at Apple comes to mind).

    And then you have the mess at HP where they would have done much better promoting from within.
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