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GM News, New Models and Market Share

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  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    My understanding is that GM is looking to import about 20,000 a year for the next couple of years, then in 2010 they will start building the next generation Astra here in the US as well.

    I was just at my Saturn dealer over lunch and they haven't gotten any Astras yet.

    I hear ya on the complaints with the Astra .. I believe GM did as little as possible to federalize it for the US market and some things that should be taken for granted - multiple cup-holders, XM radio (this is a GM vehicle, after all) and an AUX jack - aren't available.

    I've read some decent reviews of it, but time will tell.

    I'm looking forward to a 2010 Astra Red Line with the 2.0L turbo engine from the Sky - 260HP!
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,653
    I'm looking forward to a 2010 Astra Red Line with the 2.0L turbo engine from the Sky - 260HP!

    Yeah, that should be a nice competitor to a Mazdaspeed 3
  • torque_rtorque_r Posts: 500
    Did you guys see how a V-6/6-speed-powered Saturn Vue lost a comparison test to 4-cyl mini SUV's like the Nissan Rogue, Mitsubishi Outlander, Honda CR-V and the comparison winner Toyota RAV4? Heck, it even came behind the Suzuki grand Vitara. This is by the same magazine that elected the Corvette, CTS and Malibu among their top 10. It's a proof that a V6 won't make up for the vehicle hefty weight. Note to GM: Keep it light, simple and thrifty!
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,527
    "Only the Malibu is getting reviews that say as good as or better than their competitors....and they said the same thing about those X-Bodies of the 1980's."

    Geez, that's open-minded. Based on logic like that, no one should have considered a 1956 Ford product based on perceived issues with the first 1928 Model A.

    Bill P.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    General Motors' mid-size sedan wins coveted North American Car of the Year award.

    http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/13/autos/car_of_the_year/index.htm?postversion=2008- 011310

    -Rocky
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    http://gmtv.feedroom.com/

    GM announced at the NAIAS that they are partnering to build a plant by the end of this year that can make Cellulosic ethanol at $1/gallon. If they can do this it will change everything. Lets hope it works out!!
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    OMG, that would be awesome 62 !!!! :surprise: :) :D :shades:

    -Rocky
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    http://www.mlive.com/naias/index.ssf/2008/01/cole_gm_ethanol_partnership_co.html-

    David Cole, chairman of the Ann Arbor-based Center for Automotive Research, praised GM's investment in Warrenville, Ill.-based Coskata Inc. The 35-person firm says it has developed technology that can produce cellulosic ethanol for less than $1 a gallon.

    "I think there's a potential for this statement here to be one of the most important of the last 50 years in terms of the auto industry," Cole said. "Just look at the value of displacing, say, a million barrels a day of petroleum with ethanol. I mean, it's huge. It's just huge."


    I talked to Dave last night and his Center is really impressed with the changes GM has and is making in the last 3 years, turning into a truly integrated global company.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    They can actually make biofuel out of old tires and household garbage. If true that really means something. We can get rid of the huge landfills and all those tires laying around.

    The Coskata process is considered more efficient because it uses parts of the plant material that normally cannot be converted into ethanol through the sugar fermentation. Potentially, Coskata says, the process can be used to produce ethanol from various feedstocks, even old tires. The company will begin with wood chips as a feedstock.
    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080113/ANA02/808220094/1186-
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I talked to Dave last night and his Center is really impressed with the changes GM has and is making in the last 3 years, turning into a truly integrated global company.

    62' that is pretty darn cool pal !!!! :)

    -Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Did you by chance read my recent post in the "How The 35 mpg Law By 2020 Will Affect The Cars We Will Drive" forum. Post me a comment and tell me what you think ??? :)

    -Rocky
  • torque_rtorque_r Posts: 500
    Does anyone know if the G8 is on sale yet? The web site still says arriving early 2008.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    GM should be announcing sales today. Wonder what it will be?
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gm- news/viewpressreldetail.do?domain=2&docid=42745

    Major orders from transit agencies in Washington D.C., Philadelphia and Minneapolis/St. Paul for up to 1,732 GM-Allison hybrid-powered buses will save an estimated 2.4 million gallons of fuel annually, enough to fill 300 tanker trucks, GM announced today at the Washington Auto Show.

    These new deliveries will more than double the current fleet of nearly 1,000 GM-Allison hybrid buses, and potentially include the largest single hybrid bus fleet acquisition in history – an order for 952 by the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.

    In addition, the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority’s order for 480 hybrid buses, as well as Minneapolis/St. Paul Metro Transit’s plan to purchase up to 300 hybrid buses, will bring the number of GM-Allison hybrid buses to more than 2,700 units in 81 cities in the U.S., Canada and Europe
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    GM Sales up 19% in Latin America, Africa and Middle East

    GM Latin America, Africa & Middle East (LAAM) sold a record 1,235,913* million units in 2007
    GM LAAM sales volume up 200,600 units, an increase of 19.4%
    2007 calendar year market share improves to 17.2%
    GM has been the vehicle sales leader in LAAM for 10 consecutive years
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    I'm very surprized they are not using Hybrid Ecalades.

    First Ever Gas-Friendly GRAMMY Fleet to Transport the Music Industry's Hottest Talent; Chevy Volt Concept Brings

    LOS ANGELES – A fleet of gas-friendly vehicles from Chevrolet will bring an eco-friendly presence to the 50th Annual GRAMMY® Awards on Sunday, February 10. As the “official vehicle of the 50th Annual GRAMMY Awards,” Chevrolet will provide both Hybrid and FlexFuel E85 ethanol SUVs to transport talent to the Awards telecast and other GRAMMY Week events. In addition, Chevrolet will “electrify” the red carpet with a show-stopping display of the extended-range electric vehicle Chevy Volt Concept car.

    This marks the first time a “fuel-friendly” fleet of vehicles this size has been partnered with, and branded for a major awards show. The GRAMMY Fleet of Chevy vehicles will consist of a mix of 100 Tahoe Hybrids and FlexFuel E85 ethanol Tahoe and Suburban SUVs. GRAMMY presenters, performers and VIPs will not only arrive at their destinations in a fuel-efficient way, but also in grand style with each vehicle being customized with exterior GRAMMY badging.


    http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gm- news/viewpressreldetail.do?domain=2&docid=42700
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,901
    It's a tie:

    "General Motors Corp. is no longer the clear leader in global auto sales. It now officially shares a title it held by itself for 76 years with Japanese rival Toyota Motor Corp."

    9,369,524 vehicles sold for GM - 9.37 million for Toyota (rounded number).

    Toyota catches GM in global sales (CNN)

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    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    9,369,524 vehicles sold for GM - 9.37 million for Toyota (rounded number).
    Did you round up just to put Toyota in the lead? :P

    Actual Toyota: 9.366

    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080123/ANA02/809764705/-1
  • cooterbfdcooterbfd Posts: 2,770
    Did you round up just to put Toyota in the lead?

    No, Toyota says all they ever report is a figure that is 2 numbers past the decimal point.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I heard they are taking orders..........

    -Rocky
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    No, Toyota says all they ever report is a figure that is 2 numbers past the decimal point.

    ??? 9.366 million in sales is what Toyota says they sold.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,901
    The CNN link I posted this morning didn't have "actual" numbers for Toyota, just the rounded one. So I emphasized that to make sure that GM fans knew there was some wiggle room in Toyota's number.

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • sls002sls002 Posts: 2,788
    I think Toyota will release a more precise number soon, perhaps at the end of January or in the next month. At least I heard that on the news this morning.
  • kheferkhefer Posts: 3
    http://www.autonews.com/assets/PDF/CA21401619.PDF

    According to Automotive News, Toyota passed General Motors in sales and production back in 2006.

    Global vehicle production
    2006 2005†
    1 Toyota Motor Corp.1 ................................ 9,018,000 8,232,000
    2 General Motors2....................................... 8,743,248 8,293,985

    Global vehicle sales
    2006 2005†
    1 Toyota Motor Corp.1 ................................ 8,808,000 8,115,000
    2 General Motors2....................................... 8,679,860 8,354,932
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Depends on what is counted as sales. Anyway the Toyota number is out and it is 3000 less than GM. The "official" number is below.

    Conventional wisdom in automotive circles not long ago held that Toyota Motor Corp. would flash past General Motors Corp. like a blur to become the global sales leader, perhaps in 2006 and certainly by 2007, as Toyota marched relentlessly toward world domination.

    GM defied that wisdom Wednesday, remaining No. 1 and holding Toyota off by about 3,000 vehicles in 2007 by reporting worldwide sales of 9,369,524 cars and trucks, up 3% from a year ago, and serving notice that it intends to keep battling for the sales crown in years to come.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/COL06/801240423/1014/BU- SINESS01

    After a long fall from its once-dominant hold on half of U.S. car and truck sales, GM appears to be stabilizing its U.S. share at somewhere below 25%. But outside North America, GM sold almost 600,000 more cars last year than in 2006, a whopping 13.2% gain.

    GM sales in China rose 18%, India was up 74%, and Russia was up 95% as 59% of all GM sales were outside the United States. The company is well-positioned in the world's fastest-growing markets.

    That doesn't mean Toyota is suddenly a slouch. Far from it.

    Toyota also is well-established around the world, but its growth has slowed in its most lucrative market -- the United States. After growing at an 11% annual clip from 2004 to 2006, Toyota's U.S. sales rose only 3% last year, and the company is forecasting only 1% growth in the United States next year.

    The reason: Toyota now has products in every car and truck segment except full-size vans, which it doesn't plan to enter. So it can't add big chunks of sales simply by moving into new segments, as it has over the years with the Lexus luxury brand, Scion small cars and the Tundra full-size pickup.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    GM had the top loyalty for manufacturers during the 2007 model year, while Toyota was tops for brand loyalty, according to the 12th annual Polk Automotive Loyalty Awards.

    "GM and Toyota have proven that they know what it takes to keep customers coming back to their brands," said Stephen R. Polk, chairman, president and CEO of R.L. Polk & Co. "GM won a total of seven awards, including three vehicles that have won for the first time, which is a great testament to their overall manufacturer loyalty."

    In all, 63% of GM customers returned to buy another GM brand product during the year, compared with an average of 55% for the industry.

    Meanwhile, 57% of Toyota brand purchasers went back for seconds, compared with 45% for the industry.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    Is the industry average 55% or 45%?
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    55% is the average for Corporate loyalty. 45% is for division loyalty.

    So GM buyers are loyal to GM but they skip around to other GM divisions while Toyota buyers are loyal to Toyota but do not skip around to other brands, ie Lexus/Scion (not sure if Scion is a separate from Toyota but it probably is since this is a Polk number, not "Toyota who say Scion is part of the Toyota division). Chevrolet is up there near Toyota division for loyalty.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Thanks for the update pal !!! ;)

    -Rocky
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