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All-New 2009 Toyota Matrix

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  • I just got the standard alarm that came with it, not the added on vehicle intrusion program. The steering wheel automatically locks when you turn the car off. Nice feature.

    These cars aren't on the most stolen list and actually the vibe is listed as one of the least stolen ones.
  • diva2008diva2008 Posts: 10
    Thank you again for your imput. Point taken
  • I saw the 2009 Matrix on television (Motorweek). The new styling is nice but I still like the original design, too. I have a 2003 XR with automatic.

    I'm not liking what I'm reading about the 2009 Matrix, though. I'm not happy about the decreased fuel economy with the mid-range model due to the 2.4L engine. Apparently, the new model is heavier, too, which I consider a design failure.

    According to Toyota's own website, I can get a base 1.8L with the options that I really want (automatic, power locks, remote entry, power windows). I wonder how hard it will be to find this package in the real world, though. I'm assuming that the four-speed automatic has overdrive but I couldn't find any mention of it so far.

    Also, according to Toyota's site, the base 1.8L model does not have the fold-down front passenger seat! Why? I use this feature in my current Matrix all the time for carrying longer loads. I'm also disappointed that the tie-downs are no longer on rails. And no liftglass? The liftglass was a great way to access cargo without letting my dog out of the car at the same time or to carry extra-long items.

    I'm only seeing two improvements: telescoping steering wheel (nice) and doors that lock automatically after the car is in motion (does anyone really care about this feature?). I don't really consider the 2.4L engine an improvement since it's not optional for the mid-range S.

    I bought my 2003 Matrix for two reasons: cargo and fuel economy. It didn't hurt that I like the way it looks. The 2009 Matrix appears to be inferior where it counts even though it looks nice. I guess I'll be holding on to my 2003 for a bit longer. Hopefully, Toyota will make some changes in the new Matrix soon. If not, I may have to start looking elsewhere for my next car.
  • Most of the cars in inventory all included an auto transmission, power package, the all weather package and cruise control and the sport ones included the moonroof and upgraded radio. The dealership said that's how Toyota was sending them out. But since these models have only been on sale since February maybe they will start taking factory orders. I have never bought a Toyota before so I don't know if they are real reluctant to do factory orders (previous cars were Saturns) and it would take 2 months.

    I did only go to two different dealerships though, but they had there inventory listed online. Some of the base ones were being sold before they got to the dealership...
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    They Matrix and Vibe don't have much of an overdrive 4th gear. It revs pretty fast at freeway speeds even compared to the same powertrain in the new Corolla.
    It really needs a 5th gear if you plan to drive it at highway speeds very much.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Of course, the S and XRS automatic models have the 2.4L engine standard and therefore the 5-speed auto from the Camry.

    It is only the base models with the 1.8 and the models with AWD that have a 4-speed auto.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • loudog2loudog2 Posts: 83
    Yes the MPG'S are down a little. Compared to our old 2004 XR AWD, I think the 2.4l S AWD is a lot better. Now we have abs standard, vsc, traction control. side airbags, 5 speed tran and a little more hp. So there are more than 2 improvements. If I'm not mistaken, the abs brakes was only availible with the xr awd in 2004. I might be wrong.
  • diva2008diva2008 Posts: 10
    I had to purchase my 09' Matrix S AWD in Massachusetts in order to get the options I wanted. I initially went to purchase the car in New Jersey, but was told that the options I wanted were NOT being offered in my region and that Toyota were NOT taking factory orders. I had never heard of anything like this before. When I went to build my Matrix on the internet I put my brother's zip code in and this is how I found out that Massachusetts offered what I want. I think that it is ridiculous that "regions" decide what I should have in my auto as the consumer.

    If you are in a rush to get a car I guess they believe that you will take what they have to offer. I wanted what I wanted and I have been waiting almost 8 weeks for my auto; but when I thought about it, I actually waited 8 months.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    "I think the 2.4l S AWD is a lot better. Now we have abs standard, vsc, traction control. side airbags, 5 speed tran and a little more hp"

    Just so you know, the only transmission available for the AWD Matrix is the 4-speed auto. No 5 speed, either manual or auto, is available.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • loudog2loudog2 Posts: 83
    Your right. I stand corrected. No 5 spd tran. But everything else there is still a improvement. I forgot to mention the tire pressure monitoring system it has now.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Interestingly, I was just reading a blurb on the '09 Vibe, and while the auto in the AWD Vibe is still a 4-speed, it seems you can also get an AWD Vibe with the manual transmission. So for all you manual fans out there that want 5 forward speeds, the Pontiac dealer may have what you are looking for, in what is otherwise essentially the same car mechanically.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • etchedetched Posts: 6
    I did my research/building online then called up a dealer close to me. It looked like they had what I wanted in inventory, but the options weren't listed on dealer website. When I called, I wanted to see the T Matrix Base 1.8L, but then confirmed that moonroof wasn't an option for the base. After some discussion, I decided that looking on the lot(s) was the best way to look at inventory. I settled on the 2.4 sport version with Cruise Control, All Weather Guard, and Power moonroof. I couldn't afford AWD (which I didn't feel the need for anyway).

    LIKES: Auto w/shift up down for those hills, Tilt & telescopic steering wheel, fold flat rear & fold flat front passenger seats, break away mirrors, pep, sound system is bass heavy, nice change for me, adaptor for mp3, 12V in front, moonroof, chime to remind you of key in ignition, night rearview mirror (I CAN SEE, FINALLY).
    DISLIKES: Haven't had the car a week and still can't get the doors to stay locked when shifting into park (followed all the instructions in manual, may have to pick up phone to dealer soon). No locking compartments in car. No extra 12V or 115V outlets in back. Currently difficult to find decent add-ons (full carpet when back seats down, other parts accessories too when searching by year) will have to custom make a carpet myself for now. Also wish I had upgraded to include hands free phone, steering wheel controls, etc.

    Would love to get advice on the door locks. By the way, they all lock the moment I put the car in gear, doesn't need to be moving. Once I shift into park, they all unlock, UGH! (once again, I did read the instructions pages 29 to 32 and my spouse tried it as well).
  • The fuel economy of the 2006 V Accord based on a manual transmission you speak of was juxtaposed to the 2009 Matrix which was an AWD with an automatic transmission would reveal that the Accord was using (city/hwy): 11.5 / 7.3 L/100 km, compared to the Matrix using (city/hwy): 10.2 / 7.6 L/100 km. The cargo capacity also differs significantly. The Accord is a Cargo Volume (trunk): 371 L (13.1 cu ft) while the Matrix is 1,398 L (49.4 cu-ft). When one needs the money in their pocket and the room to move things, the Matrix seems excellent.
  • Maybe I've misunderstood you - are you saying the 2009 model needs a fifth gear? Because my 2003 has a four speed (three speed with overdrive) and I like it. I usually set my cruise at 90 on the freeway, revving 2000 RPM. I think it revved much lower it would tend to lug down going uphill since I drive through mountains a lot. But at 2000 RPM, my 2003 Matrix never needs to downshift. I have no complaints about my fuel economy, either.

    Well, I hope Toyota or Pontiac get serious about next year's Matrix/Vibe and put back in all of the good stuff they took out in 2009.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I think you mean 3000 RPM maybe? Actually, I am not even convinced of that, maybe you mean 4000 RPM.

    I had an '03 automatic, and at 2000 RPM in top gear with the TC locked it was doing about 50 mph.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • irishtigeririshtiger Posts: 4
    The passenger seat folds down in the 2009.
  • pokecheckpokecheck Posts: 1
    I installed a ProRac roof rack on my 2007 Matrix. It's a screw-down track-mounted type of rack with 2 crossbars that can hold up to 150 lbs. It is very quiet at highway speed without a load. They only load I've hauled so far has been 2 kayaks (fairly aerodynamic) and there was also very little wind noise at highway speeds. I used a Malone Autoloader J-style kayak rack, which attaches to the ProRac's oval crossbars.
  • swngswng Posts: 15
    Hi etched. I have just bought a similar car and the automatic locking and unlocking is just as you described in your last paragraph. You did not say whether you liked it but I don't. So I deactivated the automatic locking/unlocking according to the procedure on Page 31 of the owner's manual which you, as pointed out in your post, have read.
    Enjoy your car!
  • No, it's 2000 RPM. My bad, when I said 90 I meant 90 km/h. So in other words, it's about 55 mph. That's my normal cruising speed on the freeway, about 2000 RPM with the overdrive on. I have tried switching off the overdrive for comparison and it revs up to over 3000 RPM.

    I think the highest RPM's I've ever run was about 4000+ for a brief period when I was going 110 mph. Remote area with no one around, of course! XD
  • According to Toyota's own website, the front passenger seat only folds down on the mid-range or higher models for 2009. If you buy the base model to get the 1.8L engine (for fuel economy), their site says you don't have the option to have a folding front passenger seat. I can't see why you couldn't have that option with the base model 2009 but that's what Toyota's website says.
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