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All-New 2009 Toyota Matrix

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  • I will love it too, that is the nature of this 2AZFE(2.4L) it's fuel effecient compare to 2.3'L of Mazda3. But Mazda 3 beat it in 0.6 sec (0-60mph) Matrix S rated 7.9secs and Mazda 3 is 7.3 secs if I'm right. The height of 3 is lower than Matrix, not sure the curb weight of 3. I'm used to be fan of Mazda but not anymore, but I'm might come back to Mazda since this 09 Matrix has very disappointing interior design and materials, well pronounced road noise in coarse pavement too. Maybe the next model year will be improved that(hopefully) I'm supposed to purchase a 2010 Matrix.
    But I got 09 already. :cry:
  • Just I put back the 55 series from 45 series, the road noise has been reduced.
    One of the director of driving television said that this new 09 Matrix is quieter than his older Matrix. One thing I notice is the water splash to the body is noisier than before (when you driving in the rainy weather) Has anyone who notice that??
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Posts: 519
    Saw this earlier today, and thought I'd share. The 2010 Matrix is being manufactured starting this month, and all 2010 Matrix models will have VSC. Corolla as well. Source is www.donlen.com

    Cheers.
  • Any chance that Toyota will switch up to the 5 spd auto tranny with the new 1.8 base engine in the Matrix or Yaris? I want the better FE that comes w/. the 1.8 vs. the 2.4. Thanks
  • Maybe or not, It's possible in the next engine with 2.0L displacement (3ZRFE) will mate with 5 speed CVT. In Asia this engine 3ZRFE is using by Corolla Altis with 5sp auto CVT. rated at 147hp!. This engine is supposed to be for Matrix just leave the 1.8L (2ZRFE) for Yaris! You know this 3ZRFE has valve-matic, fuel economy is almost the same as 1.8L that uses by Corolla and Matrix.
  • apologies for the cross post but this seems the more appropriate place for my question:
    I own an 08 Matrix and like the car, except for the harsh road noise at highway speed and the equally harsh jittery feeling on rough pavement.

    I know that goes w/ the territory of a small car, but I'm wondering whether this has been abated at all in the redesign for 09. when I testdrove the 09 it didn't seem all that much different to me.

    so....anyone who's upgraded to the 09 from a previous Matrix: is the new one a smoother ride?

    also wondering if there are any mods that might address this.

    thanks in advance for any insights!

    tm
  • usaf66usaf66 Posts: 6
    just read your post about gas miles on 09 Matrix S....I got one in Nov 08 and 90% of my driving is 55mph or better and I am lucky to average 26.mpg--it seems to lurch when starting either cold or at a stop. I have 4K on it my dealer won't talk to me because I had trouble when purchased and I contacted our state attorney general. It has been a very disappointing purchase but I'm stuck with it. Does anyone know wht the lurching could be.. would another dealer be willing to talk with me?

    Usafrosie
  • johnxyzjohnxyz Posts: 94
    mantech and nippononly - Thanks for the reply - great info. Timeline on when the US/NA gets the new 2.0 (3ZRFE) engine?

    Also how does 'direct-injection' assist w/. fuel economy? Any engines from Toyota getting it?

    OT - I've read that the Subaru Impreza WRX and STi really need direct injection to alleviate the subpar fuel economy (or lack thereof) those models get....
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Also how does 'direct-injection' assist w/. fuel economy? Any engines from Toyota getting it?

    Direct injection cools the combustion chamber, allowing them to up the compression ratio while continuing to run regular unleaded and boosting low-end torque and fuel economy while reducing emissions.

    Just about every Lexus engine has it now that the old 4.7 V-8 is as good as gone - the SC430 and the 4Runner rebadge (GX?) may be exceptions to that.

    I would expect the new 2.0 Valvematic engine in Japan to have it, which is why I DON'T expect Toyota to stick it in a U.S.-bound Corolla for a while yet......the Corolla in the States is all about being cheap and durable, not about being at the leading edge of its class in technology.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • mantechmantech Posts: 28
    Attention to all Matrix 1.8L engine, Base, B package, Touring same as in Corolla
    Check your engine oil level, This is not new, It was posted last year in Toyota Nation Forum. Those 09 Model manufactured in 2008 requires an ECU RE-Flash.
    What happened to me was, they did an oil change to my 09 Matrix 1.8L last March this year. My odometer was 22,KM and after that I checked when it reached at 26,K I found out that the oil level was 1mm below center line of the dipstick in just 4,000 kilometers, so I bought a liter of 5W30 and I added up half a liter, and then after 2,000Km the oil level dropped again about 3mm below the max level.
    I already booked a service for my car, I will let you know more details after this.
    I do not know where that oil goes, It could already been burned.
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Posts: 519
    Yikes! That's quite a bit of oil lost in a small engine.

    Is there some reason to think that re-flashing the ECU is the answer?
  • Does any 09 matrix fwd owner have any experience with an engine ping or knock in their cars? I had only run 18,000 km or about 11,000 miles. Nothing comes out in the computer diagnostics of my dealer. I suspect this ping was already present earlier when I bought the car in May of 2008. It's because beginning in the fall and in the winter all my windows are rolled up and I was only able to hear it during the start of the warm weather in '09 when my windows are rolled down. I sometimes pass through bridges or places where there are walls on the passenger side. This is where you are going to hear it prominently.
  • grey09grey09 Posts: 1
    I have a 2009 1.8L matrix, when I am about to stop, may I put the auto transmission to neutral? I found by doing this the braking distance is shorter. But I heard I am not supposed to do so, coz this will damage the transmission. :confuse: Thanks.
  • I just got a new 2009 Matrix Base. It has the dealer added option of Floor Mats Set, $199 value. It includes four floor mats and one cargo mat. Only the cargo mat looks unlike the OEM mat to me. It doesn't have the embroidered Matrix logo, and it is not fully extended to the slots between the wheel wells and rear end. The material is not the same as the floor mats. It does have cut out for the tie-down hooks tough. I want to ask other 2009 Matrix Base buyers whether you get this same cargo mat as me. I assume the OEM Matrix cargo mat has the embroidered logo and fully covering the cargo floor, like this one:

    http://www.toyotapartsstore.com/images/09matrixcargomat.jpg

    Also, on page 255 and 257 of the owner's manual, it mentions a tie-down belts and tonneau cover bag. Does Matrix Base comes with these two accessories?

    Thanks
  • The tie-down belts etc. are in plastic bags down where the spare tire is.

    I found two inexpensive rubber-backed rugs from Wal-Mart for the cargo area ~$20.
    I don't care about logos.
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