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Honda Accord (2008-2012) Maintenance and Repair

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  • Definetly change ALL the fluid! Using a synthetic is optimum, the current ATF breaks down with heat! BG synthetic works great! Plus they give you a $2000 Warranty change it before 36k then do it every 30k .no brainer and I work at a Honda Dlr
  • I test drove a 2009 EXL V6 yesterday, and I absolutely loved it. I am currently negotiating a final deal. In the interim, I read in detail the posts on the 2008 and 2009 Accord, and I am concerned to say the least. My biggest concerns are oil consumption, gas mileage and the braking issues that an awful lot of folks have commented on.

    My '05 has been absolutely flawless, with the exception of a winshield creak that the dealer fixed back in December 2005.....I think I really need to reconsider getting a new one.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Remember, you're on a thread for repairs. There's not a "2008-2009 Accord Everything's Fine forum" so that all you read here makes it look worse than it really is.
  • dpmeersmandpmeersman Posts: 274
    My initial test drive of my 08 EX-L V6 Sedan back in Sept 07 left the same impression, I absolutely loved it and went on to purchase it. I can only offer my experiences regarding your 3 concerns. No squeaks or grinding from the brakes and a knowledgeable friend inspected them recently and felt I had about 50% life on the rear pads @ just under 20,000 miles. Front brakes weren't inspected as the rears seem to be subject to most of the negative comments. Sticker is spot on as far as fuel economy goes, 22 MPG overall for 20,000 miles. I've seen one tank @ a low of 17.5 mpg's and one @ a high of 32.16 mpg's many 28-31 on the hwy and many 19-21 city. I live in a hilly section of New England. The 2 oil changes that have been performed were both around 7,500 miles and in each case around 6,000 miles I had to add a quart. At nearly 5,000 miles since the last oil change it is down just a small amount on the dipstick, maybe a 1/2 a pint, nothing that requires any additions.

    I don't regret the purchase and mostly the love is still there, just not in the absolute range.
  • Thanks for your insight and impression, DP. I appreciate it.

    You also make a very good point, graduate.

    I will let you know what I decide. Thanks!
  • bduedebduede Posts: 2
    I just had the rear brakes replaced on my 2008 Accord LX-P at 31,000 miles. The dealer said they were at 0% and also tried to say it may be due to the parking brake being adjusted too tightly at the factory. Thus, they made the replacement free as a "one time goodwill." I foolishly did not as how much was left on the front brakes. Time will tell if this happens again at 60,000.
  • Well, I made my decision and purchased a EXL 4 cylinder. I will let you know how it works out, as I put on the miles.

    My son is happy...he got the "flawless" 2005 EXL V6! :D
  • yen_s_liuyen_s_liu Posts: 2
    My 2008 Honda Accord has a humongous paint problem! I bought my brand-new Honda Accord in May 2008 at Round Rock Honda in Texas. A couple of months later, I noticed there were spots all over the car, the hood, roof, door, trunk top. In July 2009, I took my car to the dealership for problem analysis, and they told me it's caused by bird dropping and tree sap. They estimated to re-paint the car would cost $3,300. I trusted their judgement because I bought 4 Honda's from this dealership. In good faith, I took it to a body shop to repair the damage, which I used before. After the owner of the body shop examined my car, he concluded the paint is defective. In August 2009, I contacted the dealership and opened a case with Honda Customer Service. The dealership set me up to meet with Jerry Meade from American Honda Motor Co., from Dallas, Texas. Mr. Meade was very belligerent and re-iterated the paint damage is caused by bird dropping and tree sap. Mr. Meade's attitude was so hostile, at one point of time during our meeting, he threw the key of my vehicle back to me. A day later, Brian Magana from the Customer Service called me back. Brian stated the cause of the damage is environmental elements and the case is closed. He further stated there is no escalation and will not return any future calls from me. I retained an attorney, and under his suggestion, in November I located a paint/coating company in Pennsylvania to test the paint. In January 2009, I received the report , and the report concludes no organic contamination on the paint. In April 2009, my attorney wrote a letter to America Honda Co. and the dealership with the report attached. Within a week, American Honda replied and re-confirmed their prior decision. As I discussed this with my attorney to explore the possibility of taking legal actions, my attorney explained to me that the estimated cost is around $20,000 without the attorney fees. My attorney told me this case is not cost effective for me to pursue. I have been a loyal Honda customer, and America Honda will not help with the paint problem when their product is defective. Most of all, I feel very hurt. I feel I am powerless when it comes to going against the giant American Honda Co. I have pictures, report, and statement to show the facts, but I won't be able to legally make America Honda to step up the plate because of the cost involved.

    I am looking for help. If you have any viable solution, please contact me at yen_s_liu@yahoo.com
  • foxwood_21foxwood_21 Posts: 31
    Honda agreed to replace my hood there a hole in it and also replace the evaporator the anti fungus coating is coming off its the coating on it
    this work is being done next week,, I have to rent a car as honda has no rental program unless you have the honda care .
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    You could try another Lawyer. This Lawyer obviously doesn't think your case is strong enough to win.
  • Filing a lawsuit and taking it through a trial is very expensive. About twelve years ago I looked into suing my previous homes builder over a water issue in the basement. The lawyer said that I would need to put up about $10K as a retainer to cover getting it through trial. After the trial, if you win you can request the costs be placed on the defendant, but the inverse is also true should you loose.
    Quite often you will read that in the case of a car company, they will make the person take it all the way, then offer a settlement right before the court date for the trial (if you look to have a good case). Sadly it is cheaper and easier to fix it yourself than sue, unless there is a small claims court you can use instead. I envy people that have a lawyer in their family when it comes to this stuff.
    The normal cure for this issue is to trade it in with a moderate layer of road dirt at night.
    The paint on my car has a couple pinhead size areas under the clear coat with no color, and a thin white circle around it - from what I can find online they are probably 'solvent pops' on mine.
    The jury is out on my car in general, but it feels more 'americarish' than I like - I miss the old low dash, and the better build quality on the older ones.
  • edk57edk57 Posts: 6
    Roger,

    How the new block is working for you? Did the oil consumption issue fixed. My car is at the dealer now to replace the short block, should I be aware of any issues when its time for me to pick it up. Thanks
  • rbbrickrbbrick Posts: 37
    Yes I have 6800 miles on the new short block and heads. Slight oil consumption 1/2 quart in 3200 miles.... it should get better over time.. But runs better than the old one more torque and smooth.
    I broke it in carefully during first 600 miles - no jack rabbit starts or high revs over 3500 rpms
    Thats about it .
    Roger :)
  • guitar4himguitar4him Posts: 19
    I need to replace the wipers on my 2008 Accord. There is some kind of weird cover over most of the wiper....they aren't exposed like most other vehicles. Anybody changed theirs yet who could offer some tips as to how to remove the covers without damaging them?

    Ken
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Posts: 818
    It sounds like you have "winter blades" on your car. If so, you need to replace the whole assembly, not just the rubber wiper part. If you do an online search on "Trico winter blades" you will find pictures to verify that's what you have.

    Mrbill
  • guitar4himguitar4him Posts: 19
    I looked up the Trico winter blades that you suggested. This is not what is on my 2008 Accord. I've been changing wipers blades on cars for 30 years. What's on my Accord is unlike anything I've ever encountered before. The carrier for the blades is plastic and is in several sections. I'm still at a loss as to how to approach a replacement.

    Ken
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Posts: 818
    There is also a "beam blade" which looks like a frameless blade. I see Trico shows pics of them on their web site. Try www.tricoproducts.com and select the Neoform or Innovision blade.

    Good luck

    Mrbill
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Posts: 65
    I have an 08 accord ex-l v6 and when my wipers needed changed, I opted for the new Rain-X wiper called Latitude, http://www.rainx.com/ , and I am extremely happy with them although they are a bit pricey. I installed them in less than 1 minute each.
  • jhinscjhinsc Posts: 398
    Did you try the Honda dealer? I'm sure they'll replace the blade inserts for a modest sum. The Rain-X website has their Lattitude blades priced at $39 before shipping/tax. It will be less at the dealer.
  • I saw they were odd when I bought my 08 EX-L V6. They reminded me of a new style called 'flat blade' wipers.

    For the how-to, have you checked the owner manual? Believe it or not, they have the directions on what looks to be page 332. if you don't have the manual, I found a pdf online at:
    https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/AAD080/AAD0808OM.pdf

    You can buy just refills from the dealer or online at:
    http://www.handa-accessories.com/accmaint08.html (scroll down to find the wiper refills).

    The exploded parts breakdown is shown here:
    http://tinyurl.com/lqp363

    From a press release, here is what they called them:
    • Flat-blade windshield wipers provide modern and upscale look.

    Hope this is what you needed.
  • temj12temj12 Posts: 450
    I have a 2005 Accord and a 2009 Cadillac CTS. I purchased the Cadillac in January. I have had around 10 places where the paint bubbles up. They are small and very difficult to see. I took the car to the purchase dealer. I did not have to argue at all. They said they would repaint the hood, top and one quarter panel. This is one of the differences that I see with Honda vs an "american brand." Honda is very resistant to intervening and taking care of the situation. The only reason that that is not much of a problem is that my Honda has been so good.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    A lot has to do with your dealer, I believe. My Honda dealer has done plenty of things "good-will" AFTER the warranty had expired over 100k miles ago (on my '96 Accord). Never had to argue for anything; they just offered.
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Posts: 65
    My Honda dealer sells only Honda parts and does not offer wiperblade refills such as RainX. I chose RainX since I love their Windshield Treatment and their Windshield Washer Fluid. At the time of my Latitude purchase, I was also given a free microfiber towel, a can of glass cleaner, and more of their original rainx windshield treatment.

    In all of my 40 years of driving cars, pickups, and semi's, I have used alot of other wiper refills such as Trico which were junk and didn't last more than 6 months. Although the Latitude wipers are a bit pricey, so far they have lasted 9 months and are still doing just as good a job now as they were when they were new.
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Posts: 65
    I replaced the rear brakes on my 08 accord yesterday after having 33,000 miles on them. The service tech suggested I have the rotors turned to ensure fewer imperfections when matched with a new set of brake pads. I paid $206 and was told my front brakes would be replaced around 60-65,000 miles on my accord which was the mileage I remember replacing my front pads on my previous 04 accord.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    IMO, if the rotors are bad enough to need turning, I would replace them. Turning them only makes them thinner/weaker. I use the Honda wiper refills. They are less than $10 from handa-accessories.com. The owners manual has the directions for changing them. To each, his own. Happy Hondaing :)
  • I experienced the same rear brake problems at 22,000 miles and was shocked to know that they need to be replaced every 20,000 miles at a charge of roughly $200. Thanks for the info. on the website and I filed a complaint as well.
  • I just got the word today about the brake noise on my 2009 Honda Accord. First, afive weeks ago, they cleaned the front brakes and buffed the edges of the drums, that did not work. I brought it back two weeks ago and I brought a copy of the service memo. They then replaced the Front pads, and turned the front drums, that worked for a few hundred miles before the noise came back. I called for service today, and they now tell me there is a service memo JUST OUT, humm, must have not read the same memo I had given them weeks ago. Well the service manager said there is not currently a fix for the issue and when they receive the fix from Honda, I will be contacted.
  • hondadanhondadan Posts: 8
    Hey, folks. I'm new to this forum, and I've scanned through some of the many posts. I'd like to hear from people about their experiences with the 3.5 liter V6 in regards to oil consumption. I am a service manager and a technician for a Honda Dealership, and I'm trying to get a little more insight on this topic. For those of you experiencing unexplained consumption, I'd like to know your mileage, amount it is losing, and when it was first brought to your attention. For those of you who have had a repair (or an attempted repair) from a Honda dealer, I'd like to know what repair was performed or the explanation you got. If you did have a repair, did it fix the problem? I'm wrapping up my second V6 repair at my shop, and looking for others' stories so I may know more of what to look for. I'm determined to find the absolute cause of this issue, and would like to better know how to make a successful repair on the vehicle's first visit.

    I don't know if there are any other Honda Technicians or Service Advisors/Managers on this forum, but if anyone has any questions for me or would like the perspective of someone who works on these vehicles daily, feel free to ask.
  • jhinscjhinsc Posts: 398
    I bought my 08 EXL V6 in Aug 08, and at 50% oil life/approx 4200 miles, I had to add a quart of oil. I am now at 14,000+ miles and have not had to add oil since that one time. I was concerned at the time but now I see it as a one time incident. Curious, my 06 V6 never needed a drop in 42,000 miles.
  • We had horrible oil consumption problems with our 2005 Odyssey. Actually, we had horrible problems with our local dealership who sold us our New 2005 Odyssey. :mad: It was VERY difficult to get them to even address the continual problem. Our Odyssey has ALWAYS needed a bit of oil. The problem only worsened. Finally, the Oil Clogged up the Catalytic Converter and burned up the head gasket. :sick: Unfortunately, it was Christmas Eve and we were en route to Grandma and Grandpa's house out of state in Utah. We live in LA, CA. The actual oil problem was not addressed when the car was repaired in UT. Only the catalytic converter and head gasket were replaced. Back in CA, the van continued to eat oil, as much as a quart a week!! Finally, after months of bringing the car in to the dealership and taking it home after only an oil change. The dealership FINALLY opened up the engine at our prodding and repaired the Short Engine block. All seems to be well now. I'm almost afraid to look. The experience was awful! Our dealership Really Let us Down!! :( The Valencia Service Manager was replaced during the process. The New Service Manager Really helped us Get the Job Done! :) It seems that you too are an active and involved service manager. Thanks so much for your interest!!

    Honda Odyssey Repairs Timeline
    Our 2005 Honda Odyssey Has ALWAYS needed a little oil Every Month.
    The Condition has gradually worsened over the years.
    Odyssey finally broke down on Christmas Eve while on route to see family at Christmas time.

    12/24/08 Honda Odyssey Breaks down in Cedar City, UT
    (Christmas Eve) (Won’t Accelerate past 50. Van shudders. White Smoke Pours out Tail Pipe)

    12/26/08 Honda Odyssey towed to Dealership in St. George, UT

    12/26/08- 1/15/09 Honda Odyssey repaired at Dealership in St. George, UT(Clogged Catalytic Converter Replaced. Burned up Head Gasket-Replaced Underlying Engine Problem: Van EATS OIL- Never Addressed, Nor Repaired)

    2/3/09 Honda Odyssey returned for Repairs to Valencia, CA Dealership where purchased. (Oil Below Dipstick. Honda Odyssey is eating 1 qt of oil every week. Solution? An Oil Change. No other problems found. Dealership Reluctant to Look For Problem.)

    2/10/09 Honda Odyssey returned for Repairs to Valencia, CA Dealership where purchased.(Oil Low on Dipstick. Honda Odyssey is eating 1 qt of oil every week. Solution? An Oil Change. No other problems found.Dealership Refuses to Look For Problem.)

    3/2/09 Honda Odyssey returned for Repairs to Valencia, CA Dealership where purchased.(Oil Below Dipstick. Honda Odyssey is eating 1 qt of oil every week. Solution? Needs to be investigated. For $1600We AGREE-- Same Day- Open & Examine Engine.Service Manager reluctant to Provide Rental. **THE SAME RENTAL I’VE NOW DRIVEN FOR OVER 1 MONTH.**)

    3/7/09 NO NEWS. No Contact. HUH??? We Contact Dealership. Investigator investigated on 3/05/09? FINDINGS BY 3/10/09.

    3/16/09 NO NEWS. No Contact regarding Investigators Findings. HUH?? We Contact Dealership. Short Engine Block and Pistons to be repaired.

    4/1/09 NO NEWS. No Contact……..

    Short Engine block finally repaired. Van returned 5-6 weeks later in May 2009.
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