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Honda Accord (2008-2012) Maintenance and Repair

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  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Yep, again. I tried a different brand of windshield fluid, and the smell was terrible. Went back to what I was using before. The new stuff was supposed to clean bugs better, but I couldn't take the smell of it.
  • I had my 2008 Accord rear brakes replaced @ 28K miles for $280, including resurface rotor. It is premature worn and uneven. Two pads wear to 2-3 mm, but the other two have 6-7 mm left. There is a web site that have 630 complaints about 2008 Accord rear brakes (2009 Accord have a lot too):
    http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/2008/brakes/premature_brake_wear.shtml-
    There are no other make/model/year that have close to that many complaints. Go to the site if you have not done so.
    There is a class action law suit pending:
    http://www.girardgibbs.com/
    Search the site for 2008 Honda Accord.
    Keep your recept, I expect Honda will fix the problem if enough voices are heard.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Honda has come up with a fix for the 8th generation Accord brake pads. I heard this from a Honda tech. (on another forum) Something about springs on the pad backing, to pull the pads away from the rotor. Check with your local dealership.

    The new part number for the rear pad set is 43022-TA0-A51, which replaces the original pad set 43022-TA0-A00.
  • I checked my receipt. It does show part # H43022-TA0-A51.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I checked my receipt. It does show part # H43022-TA0-A51.

    So the dealership didn't tell you about the pads being changed/different? :confuse: Doesn't sound like an honest dealership, to me. :( I guess, as long as the new pads are an improvement, it's not a big deal.
  • At 17,000 miles my '08 Accord V6 developed a "chirp" in the vicinity of the main drive belt. It turned out to be the timing belt and there is a Service Bulletin on the problem. They are replacing the timing belt and water pump under warranty. So, watch out for "chirps"...fairly subtle.
  • I have a 2008 Honda Accord LX automatic and have over 50K miles on it. Sometimes when its parked for a long period of time (overnight, etc.) and then I start the car, there is a click/tap sound. Sometimes the sounds occurs and sometimes it doesn't. There have been a couple times where the sound has been harsh, like a really hard click/tap. I wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this and what could be the problem, if there is any. Any feedback would be appreciated.
  • joednajoedna Posts: 5
    Same here, I have an LX Coupe (2008) and have experienced the same noise...always after my car has been setting overnight, get into the car and try to start, a hard, sometimes crashing sound, like I broke some gears or something, my wife has heard it and was startled! I am just wondering if it has to do with leaving the air conditioner in the "on" position...noticed that air was on the last time I experienced the sound. Any one else?
  • I've been following all of the discussions about the rear brake pads wearing out quickly but I haven't seen anyone say anything about the size of the rear brakes. Have you looked at your rear brakes? Have you compared them to the front ones? It looks like the rear brakes should be on a Civic, not an Accord. They're so small it's no wonder the pads are wearing out quickly.
    To me, it's like the designers and the engineers weren't on the same page. The engineers decided that the Accord's rear brakes were going to do more of the braking than the front, which is not typical. But the designers kept the old school of thought and made the front brakes the large beefy ones and the rear brakes small. They should have either reversed it or made the rear brakes the same size as the front.
    And I think that the rotors are too thin for a car this heavy. The rotors on my '96 Camry feel about twice as thick as the Accords. My wife's '98 Saturn had thin rotors like the Accord's and she was constantly having warping problems.
    I've got 20k on my 2008 Accord right now and I'll probably have to change the rear pads at the next tire rotation. There's still plenty of pad on the front. Oh, and my right rear rotor is warped slightly.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I agree. Since EBD uses more rear brake, the rear disk should be vented (like the front disks), and be larger. This will cost Honda to redesign the rear callipers, but it could save them a few lost customers. Honda has come up with a new rear pad (with spring clips attached, to pull the pads away from the disk). Has anyone had these new pads installed on their car?
  • I don't have personal experience with the four cyl, but I have seen this post, that talks about a TSB regarding a possibly bad VTC actuator:
    TSB

    Copied here:
    April 11, 2009
    09-010
    Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED
    Engine Rattles at Cold Start-Up
    (Supersedes 09-010, dated February 11, 2009, to revise the information marked by the black bars)
    REVISION SUMMARY
    Under WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION, the
    Symptom Code has changed.
    SYMPTOM
    At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about
    2 seconds.
    PROBABLE CAUSE
    The VTC (variable timing control) actuator is faulty.
    VEHICLES AFFECTED
    2008 Accord L4 2/4-Door – ALL
    2009 Accord L4 2-Door –
    From VIN 1HGCS1...9A000001 thru
    1HGCS1...9A004953
    2009 Accord L4 4-Door –
    From VIN 1HGCP2...9A000001 thru
    1HGCP2...9A029528
    From VIN JHMCP2...9C000001 thru
    JHMCP2...9C010096
    CORRECTIVE ACTION
    Replace the VTC actuator.
    PARTS INFORMATION
    VTC Actuator: P/N 14310-R44-A01, H/C 8665374
    VTC Oil Control Solenoid Valve O-Ring:
    P/N 15832-RAA-A01, H/C 7131873
    Chain Case O-Ring:
    P/N 91302-PNA-004, H/C 6753560
    REQUIRED MATERIALS
    Hondabond HT Liquid Silicone Gasket
    P/N 08718-0004, H/C 8263386
    (One tube repairs two vehicles.)
    WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
    In warranty: The normal warranty applies.
    Operation Number: 110153
    Flat Rate Time: 4.0 hours
    Failed Part: P/N 14310-R44-A01
    H/C 8665374
    Defect Code: 03214
    Symptom Code: 04201
    Template ID: 09-010A
    Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
    expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
    the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
    Office. You must request consideration, and get a
    decision, before starting work.
    DIAGNOSIS
    NOTE: If you’re reading this service bulletin on ISIS
    and your computer has sound, click on the picture to
    hear an example of the engine rattle.
    1. Allow the oil to drain from the VTC system by not
    starting the engine for at least 6 hours.
    2. Start the cold engine, and immediately listen for a
    loud rattle:
    Do you hear a loud rattle that lasts about
    2 seconds?
    Yes - Go to REPAIR
  • I just bought my 2009 Honda Accord 3 days ago. After a horrible experience in purchasing this car (cash buyer, walked out on 2 dealers, lies about credit apps, tried to strong-arm into signing finance app, etc., etc.) my power mirrors worked once and now no longer. Yeah. From Land Rover to this. I've had enough with the automobile industry.

    :lemon:

    I wish Apple would make a car.
  • I can relate to what you're saying but more in the tune of apple. i just bought a new apple and returned it for full refund. hated it. nothing but problems. i've got an 08 accord that has seat problems and honda won't fix it. the gas mileage also sux at 22mpg combined. my previous 04 accord got 27mpg combined and both are v6. i hate the eco part of the motor...lacks performance and lacks gas mileage. other than that, no other problems. will not be buying another honda. thinking about a toyota or nissan now.
  • colloquorcolloquor Posts: 482
    First of all, let me state straight away that this is not a troll post, as I've been monitoring this forum for long time. My wife and I have owned a Honda vehicles since 1978. Civics, Accords, and an even an Element... of course, we've also owned other makes of cars too within that period of time, as we always have a least two cars. We currently have a 2009 Accord LX, and - hold on to your hats - a 2006 Hyundai Elantra GLS. The Elantra is technically my wife's car. And, here is the interesting statistic: the Accord has had several of the aforementioned bugaboos that other folks are mentioning on this forum, but is still a fine car. The Elantra after 32K miles and 4 years of ownership (purchased December 2005) has been perfect - no trips to the dealer for warranty claims, etc. - only regularly scheduled preventive maintenance and oil changes.

    After owning a Honda for 32 years, the experience with Hyundai has been an eye opener for us. Plus, the dealer has been excellent. Obviously, this is only one statistical sample and we still love our Accord, but Honda and Toyota need to keep an eye on their rear view mirrors!
  • Yes, a little more refinement and a Genesis may be just the thing.
    This is my third Accord (1993,1995,2008), mother has a 1999. The '99 v6 needed a cracked cyl head replaced at about 80k mi - never was overheated, either. Now at 108K.

    Never had power mirrors fail, but should be easy enough to fix, as they are not intermittently broken :) . Have the shimmy/shake in the 08 ex-lv6 navi though. It will most likely stay that way, too.

    Have owned a new car every three or fewer years. From rain water leaks (three) to incompetent dealers (basically every car that had something difficult to diagnose and fix, was still that way when traded in for a different make).
  • Currently I have over 55k miles on my accord and still have the original Dunlop 16" tires. I know that Accords are known to have a more road noise than average. I wanted to know if these tires are known to cause even more road noise. I have noticed that at times the road noise is really bad and it makes me wonder if these tires cause more road noise.

    For those who have these tires, your feedback/opinion would be highly appreciated. I am really thinking about getting new tires even though I can still go another 10k miles with these tires. Thanks.
  • my 08 accord came with michelin tires and they were very noisy. i got tired of the noise and the poor performance of that tire model so i changed to a different model of michelin and although the performance and ride got alot better, the noise is still somewhat higher that i've noticed in gm cars. this will be my last accord due to poor gas mileage, poor performance, and poor seating ergonomics.
  • gyushergyusher Posts: 67
    this will be my last accord due to poor gas mileage, poor performance, and poor seating ergonomics.

    I'm a little dissapointed with my 08 EX-L coupe 4cyl as well. . . 15K now, rear brakes at 5mm, all 4 tires are 8mm, 23mpg lifetime avg with about 60/40 hwy/city plus my butt will go to sleep on a fairly long ride. . .

    What I am not dissapointed with is the power this 4 banger has. . . It just keeps running stronger where even on a dry road when you floor it in a lower gear the traction light flickers around 6,000rpm. . . Runs out of steam around 80 but pulls much harder than expected. . . much harder. . . Kinda makes the 23mpg a little easier to swallow. . .
  • rcummelinrcummelin Posts: 176
    Replacing your tires may reduce the road noise, but be sure to thoroughly research your tire choices before you buy. Some tires are much noisier than others, and while some start out quiet, they get noisier as they wear.

    An alternative: Use some Dynamat (or equivalent) under the rear seat, under the carpets, and in the trunk. Google Dynamat and you will discover it is an EXCELLENT sound/noise insulator, made specifically for automotive applications. I bought a pile of it to quiet down our excessively noist 2006 Element, where it worked pretty well. Our new (less than a week old) 2010 Accord EX-L V6 Sedan was really noisy, mostly road/tire noise. I had about 1/3-1/2 of the Dynamat left in the box, and yesterday pulled out the rear seat bottom and the trunk stuff in the Accord and proceeded to stick Dynamat everywhere I could. One thing I noticed is that Honda has done a horrible job of insulating, IMHO. A few blobs of some wierd foamy stuff globbed on here & there. Still lots and lots of exposed sheet metal (which generates/amplifies the noise). Today, the car was noticeably quieter when we took it out. However, I ran out of Dynamat, so if it's still noisy on the freeway, I will likely have to buy more and get creative about where I stick it. This isn't rocket science, but it is costly, time consuming and requires the ability to contort yourself into a variety of uncomfortable positions as you install it.

    Good luck! ;)
  • berriberri Posts: 4,007
    I think you may be on to something. I've found Honda's to be noisy cars and tiring to drive long distance. I don't think any tire alone can overcome that design shortfall by itself. Unfortunately, my two Honda's also have a lot of noise emanating from the glass and window/door seals, besides underneath. Its just a trade off you have to make if you like the car and its handling. Unfortunately, it seems to me that Honda may be losing some of that bullet proof mechanical reputation as well after you read all the blogs on recent problems from tranny's to A/C to engines - very sad.
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