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Honda Odyssey Tires/Wheels

lyle44lyle44 Posts: 3
This is a great van,however,BEWARE, the run flat tires on the touring package, are michelin pax.I have 27,000 miles on then and they are worn out.both honda and michelin say that's all you can expect from those tires,and will do nothing about it.they are warr. for 30,000 miles...the tires are $180.00,then a gel pack $15.00 and $40.00 labor.. special equip and special trained personel,who may not be there, as in my case.I went 2 miles on a flat to a dealer,a nail, however the sidewall was split by the time i got there,no repair had to get a new tire.so much for the 55mph and 100 miles.not all michelin dealers are equip. to handle these tires,so you may wait a few days for a replacement,honda does not put in a spare..a $1000.00 every two years for a set tires..I have had these tires rotated,and I'm 63 and don't do turns on two wheels.
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  • Bought a new 2007. The road is kinda bumpy. The info says 35 psi for the front tires and 32 for the rear. I have never put that much air in tires. I tried adjusting the front to 30 psi and 28 in the rear. The tire pressure low light stayed on continuiosly.Is there any way to run lower pressure in tires for a smoother ride?
  • We just purchased an 07 EX-L. When test driving this vehicle we drove it down a smooth blacktop road. I notice a night and day difference from a smooth blacktop to a concrete poured road or grainy blacktoped road. This vehicle gets very loud on anything but a smooth surface. I was wondering if anyone has found that by putting a different tire on this van if it helps? It just seems to me that the Michelin tires that come on this van are a loud tire and maybe there is a quieter tire out there.
  • Bridgestones are loud too on the Oydyssey. I saw some spray on underproofing at Wally-World, I think I will try that.
  • Funny thing, people over in the Accord forum are complaining about the "loud" Michelins MMXs on their '08's. CRV owners are complaining about the noisy Bridgestone Duelers.

    It's the car not the tires. Every year consumer reports slams Honda for road noise in every one of their cars. The Odyssey is no exception. Honda wants their buyers to feel connected with the road...I call it being cheap. You never hear people complaining about road noise in their Toyotas, Nissans, & even Hyundais.

    Let me know how your sprayproofing project works out. I don't think it is going to stick to the plastic wheel well liners. I remember using that stuff on my old cars that were made of steel.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    that Hondas traditionally have a lot of road-noise, though switching tires helps a little. Somehow the factory tires combined with the lack of sound-deadening material makes for a killer combination of road noise...
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,597
    Is there any way to run lower pressure in tires for a smoother ride?

    Personally I would never run a lower pressure than recommended just for a smoother ride. Low pressure coupled with heat and weight is what caused the Firestone debacle with the Explorer.
  • poocatpoocat Posts: 35
    I just put on a set of 235-65-16 Bridgestone Blizzack WS60 winter tires with steel wheels on my '06 EXL-RES. I have 35 psi air in the tires and find that these tires ride very rough. I am very disappointed in the ride comfort of these tires because you can feel a constant vibration in the steering wheel and through the leather seats. It seems to be coming from the tread design because it doesn't matter if you are going 5 km/h or 100 km/h the vibration feels the same. The tires were balanced when I bought them and don't think that's the problem. The vibration wasn't there until I changed the OEM Michelin LX4's over to the Blizzacks. Our '04 Civic has the Michelin X-Ice tires and they ride like a set of all season tires and we are totally happy with them. I wish that Michelin made the X-Ice in 235-65-16 but they don't. I only have about 100 km on the WS-60 tires, has anybody experienced the same thing?
  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    Unfortunately, I have no experience with these particular tires but did have a similar experience with WinterSports at one point. Turned out that a tire was out of balance. As a reasonably easy test, I would try putting the front tires on the rear and vice-versa. If the problem goes away or changes in intensity, then it's ~probably~ a problem with one tire. If not, then it's probaby the tread design. In the past, I've had "balanced" tires that weren't balanced. Good luck!
  • My Honda dealer told me, at 9,400 miles, that the rear PAX tire tread was very worn and I would have to replace the tires within the next 5,000 to 7,500 miles! Unbelievable. So I went on-line to do a little research on tires (specifically the Odyssey PAX system) and found a message board that led me to a class action lawsuit that was recently filed. I think as many Odyssey owners as possible should know! Go to
    http://www.sfmslaw.com and look at their current cases. You'll find a link to American Honda Motor Company and Michelin North America, Inc. I'm so glad that something is being done about these tires. I didn't want them to begin with, but the touring model didn't offer a choice.
  • miguel4miguel4 Posts: 12
    Both Odyssey and Accord have taken the wrong design directions. I quote a known magazine comentary that communicated that Saturn has already tried the lines on the new Accord. I agree...As for the Odyssey, compare the nice design of the C pillar on the previous model. This may be the best mvan in the market but that's because the Sienna does not have the right suspension. steering, and front grille. The Odyssey still has a bad quality reputation and Honda struggles to deliver the low noise levels down. Listen how the engine noise gets into the cabin from both the driver and the passenger foot wells. The noise levels did not improve with the new model. Also, Honda has failed to improve the transmissions. They still do not match the level of finess and longevity of Toyota and GM. Drive a Honda with over 30K miles and the transmission wines like a coffee maker. The same problem plagues the Accord and some Acuras. I whished someone at Honda is listening and passing on to management because the potential is huge. Not to mention that a quick survey will highlight that Honda chooses color intensities that miss the mark. The benchmark is Chrysler, GM, and Toyota. I have also notice that the paint quality has gone down. Look at the paint finish on the Odyssey. It is now reminiscent of Ford several years back. Look close at the paint finish from the side of the front fenders, doors, side panels, and compare with the mirror finish offered by the competition. Look at Slate green, the odd looking mocha, and silver colors. This days even Ford has decided to apply a better paint finish. Both Accord and Odyssey can pick 5-10 market share points if improvements are made "pronto". Honda, please adapt and respond. Start with the transmissions, then noise levels, while the body shop applies mirror looking finishes.
  • I have tried a couple of different times to remove the rear tire off my 2000 Odyssey. I have removed all 5 lug nuts, but it still won't come off. I see no locking mechanism but there must be one can anyone give me any help on this.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,597
    Your wheel is frozen onto the hub by corrosion.

    THE FOLLOWING SHOULD BE DONE WITH THE VEHICLE ON JACK STANDS

    Remove the lug nuts and hit the back side of the tire with a rubber mallet to break the bond.

    THE FOLLOWING SHOULD BE TRIED AT YOUR OWN RISK

    If the above doesn't work, slightly loosen but do not remove the lug nuts from the wheel studs. Drive up and down your driveway a couple of time and brake hard to break the bond.

    Before replacing the tire, apply some anti-sieze compound (about $5 at the auto parts store) to the back of the wheel and the face of the hub so this won't happen again.
  • I always change my tires at 25000 miles for the past 35 years of driving no matter what tire or what car. Do you think tires last forever?. New tires make a car run like new. What's the big deal???They are really the least expensive insurance you can buy.. plus the pleasure of a newride??? No better deal in town....
  • What king of tires cost $1000. I always use Michelin and they are nowhere near that.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,597
    Run flats - the Michelin PAX tires cost a fortune.
  • What kind of tires are on 08 Touring if you don't get the PAX tires?

    Thanks!
  • Next time I would have the dealer put on wheels and tires from the next model down. The PAX wheels are metric size, 15, or 16 inch tires will not fit.Pax tires also require special equipment and trained personel to change them,who had already gone home the day I went in.We had to wait until the next day to get a tire changed. $281.00 per tire.Warr 30000 miles.If the dealer won't do it,at least get a spare,they don't come with one.
  • darcanddarcand Posts: 3
    I HATE MY PAX SYSTEM.. TIRE WEAR IS TERRIBLE AND I OWN AN ALIGNMENT SHOP.. I'M CHANGING MY WHEELS AND TIRES TO CONVENTIONAL.. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A GOOD RECCOMMENDATION?

    MY QUESTION, IF I USE AFTERMARKET PRESSURE SENSORS, WILL THE CARS COMPUTER SELF CALIBRATE TO THE NEW SENSORS AND WORK WITHOUT THE RUN FLAT TIRES??

    HELP

    THANK YOU IN ADVANCE..

    DAN
  • I'm running Michelins but have to run with 30 psi which is a hard ride. Can you get sensors with different pressure sensors?
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