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Honda Accord VCM

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  • whampa65whampa65 Posts: 36
    I have owned my EX-L (V6) (2008) for over 2 years now and I can honestly say I've never noticed the VCM. I haven't had any problems with the car at all. Too say the engine is unreliable is ridiculous and I've never heard that besides certain people that complain about the VCM. I'm confident that I will have many years of happy motoring with my Honda. My wife has a 2003 Civic with 80,000 miles and she's never done anything too it besides routine maintenance.
  • Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad you're happy with your Honda with the VCM engine. I think you misread, I never suggested that the engine wasn't reliable. I was stating that I HOPE with the VCM it doesn't become a reliability issue. All the reviews on edmunds and consumer downgraded the rating of the Honda's with the VCM is what I was stating, but I hope it's not an issue as I'm sure it will not be. I had a Honda Civic in early 90's had for over 5 years and had 120k miles and it was still running. So I'm aware of their history, However, VCM is a newer technology for them as well.
  • dpmeersmandpmeersman Posts: 273
    Since the initial release of the Gen 8 VCM Sedan we've seen many pro's and con's posted here. In the past week I've spent more time in my Accord than I've spent in any car I've previously owned. On some days there were 5 hour stretches without a stop. I'm 5'5" and 165 pounds. Yeah, to many Micro Brews and a lot of hours in front of a computer can put the weight on. During these long days behind the wheel I found the seats comfortable and the lumbar support works for me and is correctly located. The ever present road noise was not a problem and didn't irritate me over long stretches as I feared it might. I really found the visibility to be better than I've experienced in other cars.
    VCM activity was ever present as was the inability of the ANC to completely mask it. Despite this, it never became annoying to the point that it detracted from the driving experience. As Grad pointed out in a recent post, you shouldn't be surprised if in mixed driving you see a return of 22 MPG's, this is on the sticker for mixed driving, and after many years the EPA seemed to have developed a formula that truly relates to actual experience. On that subject I consumed 108 gallons which translates to 29.7 MPG, also on on the sticker for hwy MPG's. Criss crossing the Appalachian's a few times probably worked against my overall economy, which reached a best 33 MPG's on one tank. I'm sure that in some scenarios this vehicle could return 35 MPG's, lack of wind and flatter terrain would work towards that possibility.
    This isn't a luxury sedan nor a sport sedan, but a family sedan. After putting more miles behind me in one week then I have ever done in my previous 30+ years of driving, my personal opinion is it's a pretty damn fine one at that.
  • blue_boyblue_boy Posts: 52
    Sounds like pretty level headed report. We still can't feel the vcm in ours though so I don't know how aggravating that is for some people.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    I have yet to feel this in any V-6 Accord I've driven and I have yet to have a customer mention it. None of the other salespeople have either.

    I don't doubt some people are feeling something but it's news to us.
  • hackattack5hackattack5 Posts: 315
    I am not sure what your point is supposed to mean? I know you always defend the VCM and tell the person with the "gripe" That there is no problem matter of fact I did a search and typed in isellhondas. You have hundreds of posts about the VCM. Here is one of your posts from 2 years ago (post 527)

    "Until I happened to stumble into this forum, I had NEVER ONCE heard anyone spek of this...Not once!"

    Now that kind of sounds like post 2328 don't you think? Yep you stumbled onto 2300 posts most of which are complaints but you are still shocked to hear that anyone has a "gripe" :sick:
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    Did I say I was "shocked"?

    ALL I have ever said is I haven't heard of this problem nor have the others I work with.

    I have driven quite a few V-6 Accords and I can't detect what others have complained about even after two years.

    I never have said there wasn't a problem. It's just that you would think I would have heard other complaints besides this forum?

    And, count my posts. I don't think it's "hundreds".
  • For someone to go back through two years worth of posts of an individual Car space user is to say the least, obsessive and clearly indicates that one has too much time on their hands.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    I must need a hobby.
  • blue_boyblue_boy Posts: 52
    I suspect he is just having a hard time relating to the problem since he has never encountered it. I haven't either but I'm just familiar with one of them. I think people on the forum on both sides of the question are frustrated because there is no common ground.

    Seems like each side has never encountered the other sides observation! I do think that is really strange and don't understand how that could happen.

    Is there anyone who has encountered both behaviors. If so, please speak up! Please!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    Yeah, that's it.

    I keep thinking one of these days I'll be driving a V-6 Accord or be riding in one and experience this.

    Then I'll say..." So THAT'S what they are talking about!"
  • wayne21wayne21 Posts: 221
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, that's it. I keep thinking one of these days I'll be driving a V-6 Accord or be riding in one and experience this. Then I'll say..." So THAT'S what they are talking about!"

    I test drove four different V6 accords with VCM and I can say that I felt the VCM off/on in each of them. Not something I want to "get used to". Neither of the two salesman had ever heard of the VCM issue, but when I discussed this with one of the service managers (I was at two different dealerships) he said they all do it and that it is just a characteristic of VCM.
  • blue_boyblue_boy Posts: 52
    Well, it's not characteristic of all of them. 2009 exl v6 sedan.
  • wayne21wayne21 Posts: 221
    Those were his words, not mine. My son's girfriend has a 2010 V6 accord and she says she can feel the VCM on hers, but doesn't care because she likes the car (and the heated seats).

    My brother owns a chevy pickup that has GMs version of VCM (I didn't know they did this from chevy pickups). He says it's either in 8 cyl or 4 cyl mode. He can feel it changing, but it doesn't bother him and he would buy another truck with that feature. So I think it's just a matter of taste/tolerance. As for me, I wouldn't buy one. I think honda should have gone the 6 speed transmission route instead of VCM, but it's not my decision.
  • blue_boyblue_boy Posts: 52
    Since ours doesn't have the problem, I don't know whether it would bother me/us or not.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    There is a difference between a "problem" and what is "normal"operation.

    What bothers one person may not even be noticed (or cared about) by the masses?
  • blue_boyblue_boy Posts: 52
    My point is: whether it is normal operation or not (can't tell with 1 sample) I can't tell when vcm kicks in and when it doesn't. Neither can my wife nor my son. Nada. No vibration, no surge, no noise, no indication of any sort other than seeing the ECO light on/off. I know some people have a behavior that is different from mine. Don't know if it is a "problem" or not - just different.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    edited March 2010
    What brought me to this forum was a comment from a customer a couple of years ago.

    " I was going to buy a V-6 but I better buy a 4 cylinder because of all of the VCM problems"

    I had no idea what he was talking about.

    " Oh, yeah, don't you know, it's all over the internet"

    It is?

    So, I came here and started reading.

    I then asked the other salespeople if they had heard any complaints. I asked our Service Advisors and the head service guy from Honda when he visited our store.

    Blank looks.

    So I took a V-6 out and I tried everything to feel or hear anything...nothing.

    Then I came here and basically got blasted by a couple of people who seem think I'm trying to make light of something that bothers them a lot.

    I'm not. I just have yet to experience it myslef or have anyone else complain about this.
  • blue_boyblue_boy Posts: 52
    It really is strange. I had always considered myself very sensitive to auto sounds, vibrations, steering, braking, handling, etc.

    Maybe it's a case of the princess and the pea? Who knows? I've already spent too much time on it. Guess I'll just let this dog lie from now on.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    Yeah, me too.

    I'm glad you're happy with your Accord!
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