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2009-2010 Hyundai Sonata

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  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,047
    My guess is that you were a lot closer than you think(50yds/150ft/about 9 car lengths). I think most midsized cars can go from 60 to 0 in around 120-140 ft. From 45mph the stopping distance would probably me more like 80-100 ft. I certainly am not an expert but this is just from memory reading a lot of consumer report reviews.

    Congrats on your(and your car's)ability to avoid this accident. I know how you feel. I had less than 1400 miles on a new Maxima one time and a delivery guy did
    something similar with worse results than you had. Pretty sickening as I was pretty proud of that car.
  • jim1299jim1299 Posts: 16
    I re-drove that stretch of road today and, while the details are fuzzy (I'd seen the other car sitting stopped before deciding to dart out), I agree it was probably less than 50 yards separation when he pulled out. I decided to be conservative in my estimate (no 'sea story' here!), plus you've got to allow for reaction time getting my foot from the accelerator to the brake. My reflexes are fast, but I'm sure at 45mph my car chewed up another couple of car lengths before I hit the brake pedal. Again, it was close another that both my daughter and I were amazed not to feel an impact, at least of me clipping his tail. I shudder to think what would have happened had I been at the wheel of either my Ford conversion van or Honda Odyssey. Centerpunched sports sedan for sure!
  • jack47jack47 Posts: 312
    What's the difference between the "GLS" and the GLS PZEV"?

    Both have the same MSRP.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    PZEV (partial zero emissions vehicle) is lower emissions, also slightly lower horsespower.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    There is a way to get full iPod integration on the 09 sonata. All it needs is a special cable. The cable uses both the USB and aux in jack. Costs about 75 USD and should work for those iPods with dock connectors. Doesn't work on the shuffle. You should be able to get this cable at the dealer.
  • macakavamacakava Posts: 775
    The Ody would have handled it just as well as it is based on the Accord and drives just as "sporty". I enjoy spirited driving in our Ody and have surprised many other drivers who try to hustle me - something I cannot do in any other minivan. The Ody handles very well and is well connected to the road.

    If I had to centerpunched the sport sedan, I would prefer do it with the Ford conversion as I assumed that it has air bags in addition to seat belts. The Ford is truck based and would have a greater (dent) effect on the sedan a la demolition derby :-0)
  • macakavamacakava Posts: 775
    The Ody would have handled it just as well as it is based on the Accord and drives just as "sporty". I enjoy spirited driving in our Ody and have surprised many other drivers who try to hustle me - something I cannot do in any other minivan. The Ody handles very well and is well connected to the road. I enjoy driving my Sonata as well, but for a minivan the Ody is best for sporty handling.

    If I had to centerpunch the sport sedan, I would prefer do it with the Ford conversion as I assumed that it has air bags in addition to seat belts. The Ford is truck based and would have a greater (dent) effect on the sedan a la demolition derby :-0)
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    I was having my 2003 Sonata LX serviced yesterday at my local Hyundai Dealer and as I always do I walk the lot while waiting. They had about 8 new 2009 Sonata's in and I was blown away by how beautiful two of them were. Both were Limited V6 one Black with Black Leather interior and the other Willow Grey with Grey interior. What a massive improvement this year. I am now drooling with anticipation to replace my 2003 in a year, but can hardly wait. I avoided speaking to any sales people because I knew if they asked me if I wanted to test drive one that I'd be in trouble. I would have went straight home and thought up many reasons to tell my wife why I should buy myself a new vehicle this year. The 2003 seems so bland and boring to me now. I've also been considering the Chevy Malibu, Ford Fusion, and Mercury Milan, but based on looks alone I'd buy the Sonata tomorrow if I could convince my wife that I need a new car this year. I'm giving my current one to my youngest Son next spring just before his 17th birthday.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    By waiting a day you saved $500--rebates are up to $1500 on the 2009 Sonata in most locations, and there's still the $500 loyalty rebate, which you would qualify for :)

    One oddity--I noticed in CA, there's $1500 off the I4s but only $1000 off the V6s. Apparently HMA thinks that in CA, power is more important than fuel economy. :surprise:
  • macakavamacakava Posts: 775
    For just about 2mpg(or even less due to car weight) penalty over the I4, I would spring for the V6, especially with more ponies (249hp) in 2009.

    It is my personal preference - I just enjoy the spirited feeling and the more refined noise of the V6 compared to the I4. During my frequent business trips, I have rented I4 Sonatas and I can see and feel the driving difference in power and engine noise. Was always glad to get back home to my V6 LTD.
  • jack47jack47 Posts: 312
    Local Hyundai dealer is offering 2009 Sonatas at $5,000 off the MSRP. That's MSRP.... not the dealers mark-up price (with a couple of thousands of phony add ons) like some others advertise.

    By July I expect it will be up to $6,000-6,500 off.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,047
    That's good info and appears to be the lowest I've seen on a 2009. But....I really wish everyone when posting would give the actual location rather than just stating "local Hyundai dealer". It seems like it would be just as easy and is certainly within the criteria for the forum.
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    I haven't seen anything here on rebates for the 2009. Where does it say anything about them and how much?
  • mtnman1mtnman1 Westerville, OhioPosts: 383
    Sorry backy. I saw just a short time ago that where they offeing the 1500. Thanks.
  • justntime2justntime2 Posts: 3
    O.K...so I read the manual about 4 times going over IPOD integration. It states you need "the power cable exclusive for an i-pod in order to operate the buttons on the audio system" Huh? Is it me or does this sound the least bit confusing to anyone else? Anyone have any idea where I can get this cable?
  • lmaxicklmaxick Posts: 46
    I am amazed that Hyundai on the west coast has not heard about the thunking problem until today when I called and gave the the whole story. I gave them the web site to check all the complaints about this problem, the fellow I spoke with was very interested since I told him my local dealer refused to do business with because of the my uncomplimentary e-mails regarding the "SERVICE MANAGER" who had told me (among other errors) that my Sonata did have an emergency release for the gas cap, and believe me other things that he should have known about the vehicle. Anyway he found quite interesting that a dealer has refused to do any work on my car. An investigation is under way into the Thunking and the dealer problem. I went so far as to tell him even his factory reps are denying that problem exists. SO hang tight everyone and I will let you know the outcome.
    Lmaxick@aol.com if you have any comments for me, good or bad.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    www.hyundaiusa.com, and click on the Special Offers link and when there plug in your state.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    I just bought myself a 2009 Sonata GLS Auto with Preferred Package myself. It was 16.6k + TTL, which was by far the best deal in northern cali that I could find. That's only about $4.1k off msrp, but still pretty good imho.
    I used to own a 2003 Elantra and this is a massive upgrade in almost every area. Also not hearing any thunking like some people have mentioned in older models.

    Likes:
    5 Speed Auto w/ Shiftronic
    168hp PZEV Engine
    Steering Wheel Audio with Controls in Logical Places(I drove a rented 2008 Cobalt Sport and the audio controls were stupidly placed...mute was accidentally hit like 10 times)
    USB Audio!
    International Language Friendly CD/Mp3 Head Unit(It Displays Japanese characters. a first for any radio I've seen, including my friend's top of the line civic with nav)
    Having ESC/Traction
    Awesome and Sensible Interior
    Best Mpg in class(only a few mpg worse than a civic)
    Very enjoyable nighttime lighting
    Comfortable Seats

    Dislikes:
    All involve upgrading to a better package, but not worth the price :)
    No Alloy
    No Fog Lights
    No Telescopic Steering Wheel

    It's certainly possible I'll find more issues as I spend more time with it, but she's near perfect so far. I think the difference in cost between the 2008 and 2009 for me was about $1600, well worth the price. I can't imagine going to that old and moldy 2008 interior, let alone the weaker engine and 4 speed auto. Also the resale values will always be better on an improved model with a later year number.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Has someone seen it in action? What are some specific examples of things that can be done via speech recognition?
  • justntime2justntime2 Posts: 3
    Hi Whee!

    Also a proud owner of a new GLS with preffered package. Any luck getting your USB audio working with an IPOD? What kind of cable are you using?

    Thanks!
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Nope! I do have a small ipod, but I'm not going to bother with that. What I mean by usb audio is putting in an actual usb stick, 16gb to be exact. No need for any extra music. Supposedly you need a specific cable for ipod connections. My dealer said any proper ipod cable should work, but I don't think he knew much about it. I might try if I'm really bored.
  • mervay2mervay2 Posts: 20
    I have a ipod nano. The cable that came with it to charge it and connect via usb to a computer works just fine with my 2009 GLS. It detects the music folders and starts playing.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Does anyone know if the mudflaps on the 2009 Sonata are identical to the 2008 version?
  • mike91326mike91326 SoCalPosts: 245
    It's the USB cable that comes with your iPOD.
  • jim1299jim1299 Posts: 16
    According to the service dept. at my local dealership, no one in Hyundai has said officially, so one dealership tried and found they don't fit properly. My local guys said that, as of three weeks ago, they had few maintenance parts for the new '09 Sonatas, but could order replacement parts for accident repairs (cheery thought).

    I guess parts and knowledge will trickle into the dealerships over the next few months.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    No. There is a special cable you need to buy from Hyundai if you want to be able to control the iPod with the stereo controls. It simultaneously plugs into both the USB and the AUX port.

    http://www.hyundai-forums.com/index.php?s=6c3eb36519487302ce7f5c6b5a02d454&act=A- ttach&type=post&id=7001
    .
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    Ya I had the same problem, asked a part's guy in a dealer and they said no information until probably next month. That's sad that it doesn't fit. :( I guess we'll just have to wait for the new accessories to come out first.
  • moocow1moocow1 Posts: 230
    I finally tested my ipod for fun and the standard ipod to usb cable worked perfectly for me. The only issue I've noticed is that I can't make the radio stay on displaying titles. It always goes back to filename display for ipod and mp3 cds. Does anyone know how to make it stay on song title?
  • lmaxicklmaxick Posts: 46
    I had called corporate here on the west coast to find out if they were aware of the thunking problem. I told them about this web site and gave them the address of it. Then I copied all the thunking articles published on this web site. After that I e-mailed corporate to advive them of our problerm, and had some choice words about my local dealer not wanting to do business with me because of the uncomplimentary e-mails I had sent them. When I called corporate I got a hold of what sounded like a young man, who listened intently to my story, gave me a case number etc and siad he will get on it ASAP, I sent him all the stuff I printed from the web site. This morning he gave me a call to let me know that in fact they are working on it,and as yet he did not receive my package and was looking forward to receiving.it. Now I don't know if this wll do us any good, but at least they are aprised of the problem and seem to be following through, just thought I'd bring you all up to date from this end of the country.
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