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Mercury Sable Problems

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  • drstevenjdrstevenj Posts: 9
    Thanks for your info on the Ford employee and family perk-- when I am in market for new car, will ask my dealer if there are any such coupons available-- actually did ask whether there is going to be a new model in next few years that will be step up from the Sable (but not the AS-- which I didn't like-- felt it was trying too hard to look like a performance car-- just didn't come together for me when took a test drive-- thought if I wanted this, would go up the street and get a BOW 300 series, or a Pas sat-- and did test them-- along with the different models of Volvo, but the Sable seat and adjustable pedals made the decision for me--)and turns out there will be new model similar to new Jaguar I series that will be out next summer in the high 20's to low 30's-- will be something to watch for--

    Regarding your buddy with the Volvo-- I didn't experience major repair expense as long as car was well maintained throughout-- what i really enjoyed was the handling and driving-- the engine just purred-- accelerating from a stop light was like being in a jet-- steady power, no passing gears, great little turbo helped alot, there were very few rattles (even at 175K), no blind spots--could see 360, mirrors well placed, controls were generally right where you wanted them-- it did have a stiff ride at low speeds, but at 85 this car felt like it drove itself-- felt everybit as good as a Mercedes at half the price and a quarter of what it would cost for maintenance-- also bought used Volvo's for about 10k with 80k miles, and sold them with 170k for about 6-7k dollars-- not a bad return-- lastly was unfortunately in a first accident last summer in my 90 volvo wagon-- buck walked right in front of car on two lane-- was doing about 60-- hit brakes-- heard dull thud, deer went flying forward and off to side of road, my front end was dented, the hood was creased, and inside, my soda spilled that was it-- felt terrible about the deer who died, and shaken up, but drove car 40miles to where i live, and left it at dealer for repair-- the reputation about driving in a tank seems credible to me--
    It could be that other cars would also have done well-- the Sable has a good safety rating, and i did get side air bags-- and it is much more comfortable for me to sit in and drive...
    Take care,
    steve
  • drstevenjdrstevenj Posts: 9
    Ooops-- I meant the LS not AS, and BMW not BOW;
  • harmarharmar Posts: 94
    I knew Sable was a great car, but no problems whatsoever? Wow! I'm headed to the dealership Tuesday to "upgrade" mine!
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    After reading some of the posting on this board, it appears people are much happier with the Mercury Sable then the Ford Taurus. I'll be shopping for a car in August/September. I'm especially interested in the Ford employee "Friends plan" and any other incentive Ford is offering at that time. How much over invoice (or under) did everyone pay for their Sable?

    The Sable doesn't seem to have that "rental car stigma" that the Taurus has. Plus it seems to hold up better then the Ford. Any observations?
  • drstevenjdrstevenj Posts: 9
    Today the emission control icon on my 2000 Mercury Sable came on-- one weird little icon in my never to be humble opinion-- sure scored low on my list of immediately recognizable symbols-- so after looking at it for a block, quickly pulling over and getting out my trusty Sables translation manual-- found out what the icon meant (and that, thank goodness, the car was not gonna stick itself in park again-- from my previous posting)--I called the dealer and asked him what would make the emissions control light come on-- C told him that C had not been eating alot spicy foods, and always carry Rolaids-- he said while diet will help some, it was probably a mechanical hang and likely easy to fix--

    Has anyone else had this light come on--and lived to tell about it (C have 24K miles on it)? If no one lived, does anyone know someone who had this problem? What happened? Did diet help extend the quality of life? Maybe it would help if C changed my Firestone tires.....

    Really, if anyone has some info-- i would appreciate it
    Thx
  • drstevenjdrstevenj Posts: 9
    The spell checking changed stuff on my last posting that i didn't OK-- and there wasn't even an icon.... here's the more readable version

    Today the emission control icon on my 2000 Mercury Sable came on-- one weird little icon in my never to be humble opinion-- sure scored low on my list of immediately recognizable symbols-- so after looking at it for a block, quickly pulling over and getting out my trusty Sablese translation manual-- found out what the icon meant (and that, thank goodness, the car was not gonna stick itself in park again-- from my previous posting)--I called the dealer and asked him what would make the emissions control light come on-- I told him that I had not been eating alot spicy foods, and always carry Rolaids-- he said while diet will help some, it was probably a mechanical thang and likely easy to fix--

    Has anyone else had this light come on--and lived to tell about it (I have 24K miles on it)? If no one lived, does anyone know someone who had this problem? What happened? Did diet help extend the quality of life? Maybe it would help if I changed my Firestone tires.....

    Really, if anyone has some info-- i would appreciate it
    Thx
  • wsmplswsmpls Posts: 1
    I bought a 99 Sable GS with 17,000 miles this past November and it's been fine, except... every now and then the windshield wipers go once by themselves... sometimes after a turn, sometimes for no apparent reason. Anyone heard of this? Also, I often get a very strange smell through the vents when I come to a stop and have the control on "vent". It could be a fuel smell, not sure, but smells like airplane glue or something.
    I've read about fuel smells and advice about keeping the tank full of gas, but haven't tried this yet. Also, someone said their smell didn't happen in winter. I got the car in November and didn't notice the smell until probably April (when winter finally ends in Minnesota). Any advice on this one? Thanks.
    I have an appointment at the dealer on the 23rd, but have little faith in that after what I've read here.
  • inakayinakay Posts: 1
    I have had front and rear brakes replaced on my 1999 Sable. I have also had adjustments. Each time the care drives okay, but within a week or two it reverts back to shaking upon braking. It feels like it is coming from the rear. Has anyone else experienced this and what did you do?
  • sail1sail1 Posts: 1
    It is the ABS braking operating. You should be able to feel the pulsation in your brake pedal.
  • I have a 1998 Sable LS w/the Duratec V6 and 32,000 miles on it. I have the auto temp control, and tonite I had it set on 70 degrees. It was a relatively cool night, so it was not blowing that much. The temperature gauge was at its usual spot. However, when I turned the car off the fan stayed on--and wouldn't shut off! The fan staying on had happened to me a few times before, but only on very hot days when I had the A/C blowing hard. Even these times it only stayed on for a minute. As I write this post my car is sitting outside blowing air out of the front grill! The temp. gauge has long since dropped to Cold, and I can see no reason for the fan to still be on. Fortunately I purchased the vehicles used about two months ago, and it came with a 90 warranty, per Massachusetts Lemon Law. Assuming the car will start, I will be bringing it sraight to my dealer tommorrow morning. Has anyone experienced this problem? Any response would be greatly appreciated!
  • sable2001sable2001 Posts: 3
    Bought a new 2001 LS Premium last December, but held onto the '93 because I didn't think I'd get my money's worth on the trade-in. The 93 has been extremely reliable throughout the years, having gone through about a 6 year period of having to do *nothing* but replace the brakes, tires, and oil from wear and tear (oh, and all those &#* recall notices!). It is a shame that I am faced with the time-bomb issue of the head gaskets (I have 81K miles on the car), since this has the 3.8L engine. So far so good, but I feel like a patient who has been diagnosed with a bad heart that can go at any time.

    Anyway, the 93 has been great through the years up to a couple of months ago when it started leaking oil very slightly in my driveway (and everywhere else for that matter). I finally made an appointment a week ahead of time and just then a significant clunking noise appeared in the forward part of the car. I read some posts hear about clunks, but the source/cause seemed to be all over the place in people's experiences.

    The diagnosis? My oil pan was rusted (I live in the brutal/salty wintry northeast). The mechanic (non-dealer) said he has seen a number of taurus/sable oil pans rust out. And the clunk was from a stabilizer bar that had come loose. He welded it back. The total cost was $380 and the car is fine again.
  • I just ordered a 2002 Sable LS Premium Sedan with 5-passenger seating w/Floor Shift/Floor Console, and the upgraded Audio group with the 6 CD changer.

    Does anyone know if the CD changer will be located in the trunk, or the floor console ?
  • The 6 disc CD player on the 2001 is located under the center console/arm rest. It's pretty convenient. The only minor complaint I have about the setup is that there is only space to fit in 3 CD cases under the console instead of all 6, so you either have to bring all/some of the cases into the house, or leave them floating around the car out in the open (I guess you could also get yourself a CD carrying bag, but we're too cheap).

    The sound system itself is excellent. In addition to the 6 CD's, there is also a tape deck in the dash console and the radio of course. The six speaker system really makes a difference in sound. I'm currently enjoying driving around listening to Nick Drake (anyone ever see that Volkswagen commercial a year or so ago?).
  • cfiore1cfiore1 Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 sable wagon, love the car but I'm afraid of potential problems. @ 27,000 miles my rotors were gone? @ 30,000 miles I found an oil leak in my front seal and a spot of rust starting at a seam around the rear tail gate. I'm also wondering if the "backfire recall" applied to my wagon. the dealer told me no, I heard otherwise. anyone with any help please let me know. thank you cfiore
  • I just purchased a program 2000 Sable LS Premium with the 4V Duratec 3.0. The car has 20K miles. Having just gotten it home from the dealer, of course I love it. I will certainly follow these posts, and post any wins or losses with the car as I progress.
    Right now, it looks like the best thing to do is find out what the dealer has done (or not done) in the way of recalls, and what they say is available...
  • normie1normie1 Posts: 2
    I purchased a new Mercury Sable Premium Wagon two months ago. In the last couple of days we have had torrential rain from the tropical depression passing near Florida. On Friday evening I got in the front passenger seat and found my feet in almost an inch of water. We wet-vacuumed it almost dry and today found almost as much water. The door and window were properly closed and the windshield appears not to be leaking. Has anyone had any similar experiences? I am going to the dealer tomorrow, but wanted to know if this is a common problem with this car.
  • mykem1mykem1 Posts: 29
    But I actually own a Ford product that runs. Have had my 2000 GS Wagon for a year now and am over the 10,000 mile hurdle.

    Quiet. Refined. Not even a click or a squeak. I can't believe it myself. Never owned a Ford that didn't gobble parts or transmissions. Promised I would never buy another, but this one was the safest in its class (important for the kiddies) and the only one with the nostalgic pop-up rear seat (which, like when I was a kid, my kids fight over and love).

    I do keep looking over my shoulder and peering under the hood. I have the base, no frills 3.o liter, and I don't beat on it (the kids do).

    We will see, we will see. Still smilin for now!
  • As per my previous post, I bought a used 2000 Sable Sedan with 20K miles. I have added 1000 miles this last week and have not seen any of the problems described in earlier posts...
    No wandering, even in gusty winds.
    Very quiet on the freeway (I'm on my cell phone, so I would certainly notice)
    First three tanks of gas with a 3.0 liter have produced 30, 29, and 27mpg (a/c running constantly on the last one)
    Very smooth and crisp acceleration (I used to have a 1.9 liter Tracer, so anything is a step up!)
    One concern is that my dealer ran an "Oasis" report that documents all service work in the last 18 months provided by authorized dealers, and it states there are no recalls for this automobile. Previous posts led me to believe there should be a couple.
    Another problem was that, as a used car, I was only given one key - didn't think THAT would be a big deal. I was wrong - programmable keys are 29.00 each, along with a labor charge of 38.50 to program them. Spent 108.00 for two keys - ouch!
    Other than that, I am a happy camper so far. Feel free to e-mail for further details if you desire.
  • mykem1mykem1 Posts: 29
    I bought mine new and get the notices right as they come out. You have one for the adjustable brake/gas pedal (something about it locking if I remember correctly or wearing a wire). The other is for the stupid headlamp switch (apparently, it can fall off - wow). I still haven't had the switch replaced, but i did get the brake pedal thing installed.

    You should be able to check with a dealer to see if your car has had these recal items done.

    My wife still loves ours. That pop-up rear seat makes it for her (kids love it too). You do get comfort over handling, but it doesn't do too bad for a wagon. Most problems on this car are with the "other" V6. If you have the GS, chances are you don't have it. I researched carefully before I bought, and stayed away from the bigger V6 everyone was complaining about.

    Wish I got your MPG! I drive 70MPH and have yet to get more than 27 or 28MPG on the highway. It has gotten as low as 18 in town. But, I do step on the gas, and so does my wife. When we are on the highway, we are loaded down with kids, bags, and a 120lb German Shepard (so I guess that figures into it).

    Thanks for the heads up on the keys! I will be very careful with mine from now on!
  • I enjoy my car very much, BUT recently it developed a VERY STRANGE problem. First the radio cut off BUT when I put it in park it intermittently worked. If I removed it from park it went off. NOW when I place it in drive the power steering seem to cut off with the radio, BUT when I put the car in park the power steering seems to come on along with the radio sometimes.

    The car has only 36,600 miles and I take excellent care of it.

    HELP

    ANY SUGGESTION? Hfishbein@cfl.rr.com
  • You have a short somewhere. I am no electrical whiz, but I would bet a large chunk of cash on it. Take a look at your fuse diagram in your owner's manual and see if those items are on the same fuse (doubt it, but check). If it is not in the fuse, you have a wiring harness somewhere that is shorting out.

    DId you recently wash the engine bay? Sometimes those high-pressure sprayers can get water into junction boxes and wiring harnesses - causing intermittent problesm like you describe.
  • Had the head gasket fail on my 94 sable last summer. Engine was replace under the extended warranty. Last week the head gasket failed again also taking out the engine. The new engine was only covered for 12 months/ 12,000 miles. The engine was 13 months old. Does anyone know why the original engine was covered for 7 years and this new one is only warranted for 1 year. Also has anyone had any luck fighting Ford about this.
  • smmsmmsmmsmm Posts: 8
    My '97 Sable Wagon just had the "Service Engine Soon" light come on. Does anyone know of a do-it-yourself way to determine the cause of this ? I am in the process of trying to sell the car and only last month my mechanic "changed some sensor" due to the fact that the "check engine" light had come on........ Any help greatly appreciated.....thanks
  • alcanalcan Posts: 2,550
    Your vehicle is OBD-II compliant and a scan tool will be required to retrieve the stored diagnostic trouble code relating to the system/circuit fault which set the check engine light. Btw, a common cause is a loose gas cap.
  • Just received my new factory order 2002 Mercury Sable LS Premium.... White/Medium Graphite Leather Bucket, 3.0L 4V V-6 Duratec, MoonRoof, 5 Passenger Seating, Secure Group and Mach Audio/6-CD Changer.

    If there are any questions about this model, just let me know. So far everything works great, I love this car !

    Matthew
  • lou30lou30 Posts: 1
    I am now considering the purchase of the 2001 or 2002 Sable with the 4 valve V6 engine. I currently own a '96(first year of newer body styling) with the 2 valve v6. Although my engine has been 'ultra'-reliable, I once rented a Sable with the 4v engine and the extra power was a blast. However, since the other engine is heavier, I perceived a little more "nose-dive" in braking and cornering. Was it me, or is this the case? Also, I have read about reliability concerns with the 4V engine. Are these unfounded?
  • mrl11777mrl11777 Posts: 154
    ... and I have been very happy with it. The car is very fast, and it has been very reliable so far (41,000 miles). I think that your fears of "nose dive" are unfounded. I have 2 Taurii, one with each engine, and I think that they handle comparably. In fact, the 24valve is probably a lighter engine (aluminum heads).

    As far as handling goes, the best thing that I did was to replace the crappy General tires that came on the car with Michelin Pilots. The car sticks to the road like glue in all conditions. My 2000 Taurus wagon came with Continental tires as OE, which are pretty good.
  • is an aluminum motor. My '96 Sable has over 100k and the only repair was the A/C clutch. Apparently the magnets wore out. IIRC, the repair was about $300, including the clutch. This is my 4th Sable. The last one had the 3.8L motor with no head gasket problem and 175k!
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Posts: 872
    A friend of mine has a '93 Sable, the charging system light came on, took it in and had the system checked out. Guy said it checked out ok, but the car was aging and the alt. might have a regulator going bad, so he had it replaced. Light went out for a few weeks then came back on, so he replaced the battery, even with the new battery the light stayed on. Has anyone else had this problem? What to check next.
  • freckfreck Posts: 1
    I have a 1998 Sable with a pretty stange problem.
    I cannot get the car out of park when the temperature is cold - say below 35 degrees or so.
    The car starts okay but will not shift out of park until the engine warms up a little. I don't have the problem if I leave the car in neutral with the emergency brake on (instead of "Park"). Any ideas on what could be causing this?
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