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insuring a daily driver classic

spike13spike13 Posts: 3
edited March 8 in Dodge
I'm considering buying a classic car - 1969 Charger. While I have other newer cars, I'd still like to take this one out sometimes to regular places or to work. My insurance company will only insure the depreciated value - in other words - not nearly what it's worth. Classic car insurers won't cover it if you drive it to the store or to work, even if you only do that occasionally.

How are other folks covering their rides? Do you just take the risk?

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,515
    I've only taken my old car to work a couple times since I retired it from daily use several years ago - I've just risked it.

    Now I insure it through Hagerty, I assume their 'pleasure use' type of driving includes stopping by the store etc.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,422
    Why won't your insurance company insure it if you get an appraisal? Maybe your sense of value is too high and that's the problem. I know that many mainline insurance companies insure classic vehicles for their full value, but most require an appraisal to do that.

    If your insurance company is REALLY saying they don't want any classic car business ever, then I'd switch to a mainline company that will accommodate your new AND old cars.

    As for the classic car insurers, yes, you must have a garage, you must have another car to drive, and you must limit your miles to under 2,500 a year, for club events, tours and "exercise" (perhaps that's a loop hole?).

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  • drive it on the insurance, they'll never know. If something was too happen just say you were takin it out for a spin they cant do anything. Just dont go speeding around getting tickets or your screwed
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,852
    Like Fintail, I have classic car insurance with Hagerty. They're online... http://www.hagerty.com . I have three cars insured with them: a 1957 DeSoto Firedome, a 1967 Pontiac Catalina convertible, and a 1976 Pontiac Grand LeMans coupe. I think my policy is about $178 per year, total.

    One thing that Hagerty does that's cool is they only hit you up with liability once, no matter how many cars you own. Whereas with most companies, you pay liability on each car you own, and then collision/comprehensive on top of that, I guess Hagerty figures you can only drive (and wreck) one at a time!

    Hagerty is also pretty generous with their usage. Basically, as long as it's not your main source of transportation that you're driving back and forth to work/school all the time, you'll be fine. And driving your car to work every once in awhile on a nice sunny day, they're not going to care about that. Heck, maybe you have a friend at work that wants to see your car, or something! They also don't have a mileage limit.

    Most of the big insurance companies, like Allstate, Nationwide, etc, aren't really set up for classic car policies. They'll let you insure it as a regular vehicle, but you'll pay through the nose and their coverage would be pretty bad.

    I used to be insured with Allstate, and they actually did have some kind of limited use policy you could get, which saved you a little money. I had a 1969 Bonneville that rarely ran, and I had it on that policy. I think it was like $100 per year, but was liability-only.

    Anyway, check out Hagerty, and see what they can do for you.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,422
    Thanks for the info andre. There doesn't seem to be an actual mileage NUMBER, but they do say:

    "Usage. Hagerty provides coverage for vehicles that are used on an occasional basis -- e.g. club functions, exhibitions, organized meets, tours and limited pleasure driving."

    I think the key word is "occasional"--so daily use or regular use for the same function would probably violate the policy.

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  • I called Hagerty and a few other classic car insurers - they all said the same thing - it's not insured if you take it to work.

    While I don't want to drive it all the time, I do want to drive it other than on sunday drives -- isn't that part of the fun?

    State Farm said they might be able to do coverage with an appraisal, so I'm waiting to hear back from them. I'll post back what my results were with them.
  • 0patience0patience Posts: 1,542
    I'm not certain what State Farm's policy is now, but 15 years ago, I had my 67 Camaro covered by them.
    It was insured for it's market value with an appraisal and was covered for "limited" mileage. Seems to me, it was up to 3000 miles a year.
  • how can they prove how many miles you drove on it anyway....for instance my 1968 mini cooper...i have no ideah wat the miles are on it...
    Is there a way they can prove it at all...
  • I have my eye on a 67 mustang but I can find insurance for it!
    well not any that restricts how many miles I can drive. What insurance companies are good?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,422
    If you don't want a mileage restriction you'll have to go with a "mainline" insurance company. Most of these mainline companies (they are not classic car specialists) will only write you a Stated Value policy, which means they will pay you UP TO the stated value you both agree upon. So there's that loophole.

    The classic car insurers, while they do have restrictions (must be garaged, limits on mileage, must not be your only car), offer an AGREED UPON value policy, which means that you'll get a check for whatever value has been agreed upon, no questions.
    (presuming you follow their rules).

    Some mainline insurance companies might ask you for an appraisal, and this is probably a very good idea for you to agree to do that.

    Here's a JD Power study of insurance companies. As you can see, there are very few standouts.

    Insurance Company Ratings by JD Power

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,515
    From horror stories I have heard, it is not advisable to drive a classic of any significant value as a daily driver insured through a mainstream company, as you will be offered a pittance if anything ever happens. If it is a common 67 Mustang, this shouldn't be a worry, but if a huge sum is invested in it, always keep in mind the risk of getting a fraction of what you think the car is worth should it be written off.

    The classic insurers are much easier to work with, from what I understand - but you have restrictions as was stated. I have a policy with Hagerty, which requires the car to be garaged and not to be the primary vehicle...I think they give me 2500 miles a year, and an annual premium of $100 with an agreed value of $5000. It seems pretty fair to me.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,422
    Well if he doesn't want mileage restrictions, he has very little choice.

    Here's a list...maybe one of these doesn't have a mileage restriction:

    Insurance Providers
    • American Collectors Insurance Inc.
    498 Kings Highway N, P.O. Box 8343
    Cherry Hill, NJ 08034
    800-360-2277, 856-779-7212
    www.AmericanCollectors.com

    • American Hobbyist Ins. Agency
    2501 SE Aviation Way
    Stuart, FL 34996
    800-395-4835, 772-287-9363
    www.AmericanHobbyist.com

    • Condon & Skelly
    121 E. Kings Highway, Suite 203
    Maple Shade, NJ 08052
    800-257-9496
    www.condonskelly.com

    • Great American Insurance
    Classic Collectors Program
    P.O. Box 429569
    Cincinnati, OH 45242-9569
    800-252-5233
    www.classiccollectors.com

    • Grundy Worldwide
    P.O. Box 1957
    Horsham, PA 19044
    800-338-4005
    www.grundy.com

    • Hagerty Classic Insurance
    P.O. Box 87
    Traverse City, MI 49685
    800-922-405
    www.hagerty.com

    • J.C. Taylor Antique Automobile Ins. Agency
    320 South 69th St.
    Upper Darby, PA 19082
    800-345-8290, 610-853-1300
    www.jctaylor.com

    • Sneed Insurance
    PO Box 34698
    Memphis, TN 38184-0698
    800-619-7827
    www.sneedinsurance.com

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  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    The higher the riskyness, the higher the premium - as it should be.

    Will the Stang be for go or show? If show, Hagerty. If go, Any domestice carrier will take it for the reasonable applicant, but with photos if not an appraisal.

    In both cases driver's license history is very critical.
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