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2008 Toyota Sequoia

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  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    So true! I know that this is what my wife is looking for- the tough guy but classy look, both inside and out.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    I'm curious, what's the source of your information.
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    We should know sales within the next few days, but even that is going to be difficult to tell b/c the marketing types are going to put their spin (positive or negative) on it. Those sales folks are really the only ones who know how sales are going, since model availability for the new redesign is so fluid and different for each market.

    Interestingly, I just got an email today from my Infiniti dealer that Infiniti dropped their special APR a percent to 1.9 over 3 yrs or 2.9 over 5. I don't know what their rebate is. That will likely be very telling...whether Toyota puts any special APR/lease packages on the Sequoia.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    oK, Keg,.There you go again. Let me repeat this. :)
    Toyota doesn't care what Infiniti does. They do care what GM, Ford and Chrysler do as far as incentives go. Sales have been slow this month but it's typical for January. February things pick up a bit then it just let's loose in March.
    :shades:
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    Mack...please tell me where I said anything about Toyota caring what Infiniti is doing. Perhaps you misread what I wrote. ;)

    Interestingly, I just got an email today from my Infiniti dealer that Infiniti dropped their special APR a percent to 1.9 over 3 yrs or 2.9 over 5. I don't know what their rebate is. That will likely be very telling...whether Toyota puts any special APR/lease packages on the Sequoia

    Did you misread this? Is this what you are particularly commenting on?

    That will likely be very telling...whether Toyota puts any special APR/lease packages on the Sequoia

    My intent for this sentence was to simply state that whether Toyota put any incentives on the Sequoia would likely show whether sales of the Sequoia were meeting/missing expectations.
  • You at least got a better deal than I did from my Dealership. They were charging me $1,800.00 for the 6year/100,000 mile.
    The retail on the 7year/100,000 mile 0 deductible would be $1,850.00 so your Dealership sold it to you at a $655.00 discount which isn't too bad.
    Troy Dietrich can save you about $200.00 more if you want to go through the trouble of canceling your current warranty. (You have to cancel within 30 days of purchase to get a 100% refund)
    You can contact Troy at: TDietrich@toyotaofgreenfield.com and he can give you the particulars.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    "That will likely be very telling...whether Toyota puts any special APR/lease packages on the Sequoia"

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  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Unless an alarming amount of unsold vehicles has built up in the pipeline, would you expect Toyota to offer any incentives at this point? Why would they? The few vehicles that everyone here seems to be seeing on dealer lots seems to be an indication that the "supply chain" is no where close to overstocked. The way the industry measures this is by calculating the number of days inventory of unsold units there are in the supply chain (that includes assembled units that have not left the factory yet all the way to units that the dealers may have deposits on but the final transaction has not taken place, divided by the project daily unit sales). No doubt they are closely watching what their competitors are doing, but unless excess inventories start to build up, I would not expect to see incentives so soon. On the other hand, none of us really know what's actually happening saleswise versus their plans. No doubt their product planners are closely watching. It could be that the pipeline is not full because they are building less Sequoias than originally planned because they aren't seeing the sales they originally projected. And it's likely they have adjusted their sales plans downward over the past year while they have watched full size SUV sales plummet due to the economic news and gas prices.
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    "I'm curious, what's the source of your information."

    http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6543162/the-general-forum/toyota-tundra-diesel-c- - onfirmed/index.html

    VW and Mercedes have a wealth of experience with clean diesels. And both are having one heck of a time getting their diesels to meet the Tier 2 Bin 5 standards. VW's date for reintroducing their diesels has been delayed several times. IMHO, I don't think Toyota can get a clean diesel here in time for the 2009 model year.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Thanks Nedzel, excellent info.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    What is the advantage of a diesel over a gas engine? Isn't diesel more expensive? doesn't diesel induce engine knock? Someone please tell me. I'm serious.
    Mack
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Significantly more fuel efficent (easily offsets the higher cost per gallon), much more torque at lower engine speeds (great for towing applications and normal driving) although less peak horsepower. Diesels "knock" by design (well, sort of), although modern diesel engines are generally much quieter in passenger car applications than just a few years ago. There is no spark plug. The fuel is injected at very high pressure into the cylinder which is already into the compression cycle, and the fuel ignites immediately as it is injected. Also, diesels have a reputation for much longer engine lives than gasoline engines. And there have been huge advances in emission control and visible (soot) pollution.
  • toddhmtoddhm Posts: 35
    Well put Shark. Also, diesel engines generally require less maintenance than gasoline engines and can go longer between oil changes.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    It's been well publicized that we will see many more diesel cars and light trucks offered here in the next few years. Right now they are far more prevelant in Europe versus here due to the high fuel costs there. When many Americans think of diesel cars they think of the noisy, dirty diesels from 10-20 years ago. That has changed so dramatically, and it's expected that many people will embrace diesels over the next few years like never before, especially because they have been radically improved and due to the rapid raise in fuel costs. One of my co-workers recently bought one of the new Mercedes Blue-Tec diesels...inside the car it's just about as quiet as the gasoline version of the same car.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Ok, thanks. I knew about the torque advantage but not the other things. I have had plenty of customers asking about a diesel Sequoia and Tundra. And I also noticed that anytime we get a Ford diesel in as trade it sells in less than a week.
    Mack
  • What are the chances of Toyota redoing (or at least tweaking) the interior of the Sequioa in the 2009 model year? Does anyone have any information support or contrary to this?
  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    I recently had an interesting diesel vs gas engine experience. Over the recent Christmas holiday my family and I went on a vacation to Costa Rica with another family. We had a total of 8 "kids" (15-23yrs old) and 4 adults and figured we'd need 2 rental cars for the vacation. We decided to get a dodge caravan gas/automatic and a Toyota 12 passenger diesel 5sp manual van http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hiace (Believe it or not you can actually get versions that handle 15 passengers) The Toyota had a 18.5 gal tank and the Caravan had a 20.5 gal tank. We wanted to have 2 vehicles for traveling long distances as well as a single vehicle that could take us all on local trips for dinner or the beach.

    I didn't take any real measurements so all of these remarks are simple observations.

    We both left the main city of San Jose to travel to Quepos with full tanks. Its about 120 miles but we probably did about 150 including a few sides trips. The distance took about 4 hrs due to mountain roads that are very poorly paved. By the time we got to Quepos, the Caravan was well under half full and the Toyota diesel had barely moved off of full. I figured it was just a bad gauge and would watch it closely.

    We ended up using the Toyota for almost all of our local driving, so it was driving all kinds of mtn roads for over a week. Most of the time it had all 12 of us on-board. (as an aside it was actually very comfortable for 12 with lots of luggage space to spare).The Caravan barely got used while we were in Quepos. I have no idea how many miles we traveled but I can tell you I never filled the diesel tank for the entire trip until just before I dropped the Toyota back at the airport and even then it still had a 1/4 tank to go. The dodge caravan needed to be filled 3 times during the same time and the Toyota was driven far more miles, maybe even 2x the miles.

    The toyota believe it or not was the vehicle that everyone fought over because they wanted to drive it. Torque and the 5sp made it a blast to drive. It just didn't have much guts as the rpms rose, but from a standstill it felt like a tractor even with a full load. There were actually alot of these Toyota HiAce's driven as cabs and limos that were supercharged (factory) versions of my rental.

    After that trip I have been really convinced on diesels but I don't think manufacturers are going to be successful anytime soon in meeting the particulate standards in the US. The stds are far higher in the US than they are in Europe or for that matter the rest of the world.

    I thought everyone might find this comparison of interest given the discussion on the diesel Sequoia. As an aside, Costa Rica was a real blast, Canopy zip line trips, whitewater rafting on rivers with crocodiles, horseback trips into the jungle, sunset sailing, fishing for Sailfish and Marlin (we caught a 90lb sail and 350lb marlin) and time at the beach. It was a great trip and the Toyota made it fun even when we were just driving around.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    I've never seen any vehicle manufacturer make a significant interior change as quickly as the second year of a model run other than colors. On the other hand (assuming your big concern is the dashboard design) 2009 will be more than the second year for the dashboard design in the Tundra. Given that the Sequoia shares the Tundra dash (at least that's what I've read on this forum) and the trucks are made on the same assembly line, I would guess that the Sequoia dash will change when the Tundra changes.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Maybe, but I've yet to see Toyota change a dashboard through a model's run. Only change I've seen was when the 4runner was introduced in 2003 and it had the ugly gray cladding on the fenders. There was an outroar of complaints from Toyota owners that in mid year they changed to the color keyed cladding on all models.
    :shades:
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Hdfatboy, I had a similar experience with a 12 passenger Fiat Ducato diesel van in Italy a year ago. The fuel mileage was impressive considering we drove on many steep mountain roads, and flat out on the Autostrada. And that's good given that the fuel price worked out to between $6 and $7 per gallon as I recall.

    You might be surprised how soon we will see more diesels here. The manufacturers are figuring out how to meet the emissions standards, even in states like CA. BMW recently announced that it will be selling 50 state legal 3 series, 5 series, and X5's here. I beleive I also read that the Mercedes BlueTec will be 50 state legal in 2009 if it's not already in 2008.
  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    "BMW recently announced that it will be selling 50 state legal 3 series, 5 series, and X5's here. I beleive I also read that the Mercedes BlueTec will be 50 state legal in 2009 if it's not already in 2008."

    Unfortunately all I ever read is about how so&so manufacturer is going to have some new diesel technology sometime in the future. In the interim, VW drops its auto diesel. Are there any diesels available today in the US as a 2008 car model other than the E class MB? (Not an SUV or truck as they have a different standard.)
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    I stand corrected. The 3 series and X5 diesels will be available in all 50 states this fall, but the 5 series diesel has not been announced for North America yet. Also Subaru has announced a diesel Forester for the 2009 model year.
  • Three days ago I noticed that Toyota had redesigned their web site. When I click on the "build your Sequoia" (Arizona region 85002) they were listing Options A-J. Today they list Options A-G but with both sets of options the Moonroof is not listed. At first I thought that this must be a mistake and would be added, now I am begining to wonder?

    Although I have ordered a Sequoia without a Moonroof I was just wondering if the deletion of this option is on purpose?
  • I noticed that nothing has been posted for 2 days- very unusual. Is this site up and running?
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    We've discussed every conceivable topic. There's nothing left to discuss. The forum is complete :)
  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    Looks like Toyota finally updated their website to include the interior colors for the 08 Sequoia. They now show the Red Rock interior for the Platinum model. Interesting that the interior pictures show the dash without the red rock dash panels that have been shown in many of the interior pictures on the net.

    I wonder if they've dropped the accent panels from the dash or if the website simply doesn't depict the red rock platinum dash accurately.

    Has anyone taken deliver on a red rock platinum and did the dash have the lower knee panels the same color as the seat leather?

    http://www.toyota.com/byt/pub/setStartOptions.do?seriesCategory=13&zipHolder=&mo- delId=&zipEditInputTextField=&zipCode=08833#interior
  • Looks like Toyota finally updated their website to include the interior colors for the 08 Sequoia. They now show the Red Rock interior for the Platinum model. Interesting that the interior pictures show the dash without the red rock dash panels that have been shown in many of the interior pictures on the net.

    I wonder if they've dropped the accent panels from the dash or if the website simply doesn't depict the red rock platinum dash accurately.

    Has anyone taken deliver on a red rock platinum and did the dash have the lower knee panels the same color as the seat leather?


    Would be huge (positive) in my book if they replace the lower dash panels with black panels. There was clearly a visible mismatch. I saw a Platinum (Silver/RR) on the local dealer lot and it looked like the lower panels had been painted with cans of spray paint. This is probably why the plastic trim around the seats is black in color. Had they been the same color as the leather (as in the tan and grey interior), the mismatch would be even more evident. I was even contemplating ordering the black lower panels from the tundra and replacing the RR panels as a measure of last resort.

    On an unrelated note, I test drove a Platinum with the tan interior and wood dash and was pleasantly surprised to see that the wood actually looks really nice with the tan. Given the size of the silver part of the dash, I figured the molded wood dash would looked garish....but surprisingly, it wasn't. In fact, the silver trim around the speed/tach etc. showing through the wood dash actually looked like the chrome trim rings seen around instrumentation in other vehicles.

    Can someone please comment on the difference in ride quality between the 18" wheels and the 20"s. I drove two separate vehicles on two separate occassions (a couple of weeks apart) and felt that the ride quality on the 18"s was markedly better. I also felt like I could feel a noticable vibration when riding on the 20s, similar to what one would feel when the tires are out of balance.
  • We test drove a platinum with the 20s originally and when we ordered our vehicle(08 Limited), they tried to push the 20s on us, but we specifically opted for the 18s due to what we thought was a better ride. We have now had over vehicle for just over 2 weeks and love it-the ride is very smooth. Good luck,
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    JD, how was the ride with the 20's? Was there a noticeable difference versus the 18's?
  • ">Take a look at the pictures below (especially the side view) and you'll see the mismatch I'm referring to. Now imagine for a minute is the glove compartment door and drivers side lower dash panel were both black.
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