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2008 Toyota Sequoia

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  • aybe you should drop $50+K on the Yukon Hybrid and tell us how you like replacing all those batteries in 50,000miles after the warranty expires.

    Fatboy, All GM Vehicles now come with a 100,000 mile warranty
  • toddhmtoddhm Posts: 35
    A lot of manufacturers seem reluctant to put HIDs/Xenons on their trucks and SUVs. My guess is that because trucks and SUVs sit higher than cars, the HIDs have the potential to blind oncoming car drivers, possibly causing accidents and creating a liability issue for the manufactuers who do not want to be sued.
  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    According to Edmunds, here's the GM warranty on the Tahoe/Yukon hybrid:

    Basic: 3 yr. / 36,000 mi.
    Drivetrain: 5 yr. / 100,000 mi.
    Hybrid Component: 8 yr. / 100,000 mi.
    Roadside: 5 yr. / 100,000 mi.
    Rust: 6 yr. / 100,000 mi.

    It'll be curious to see if GM categorizes the batteries as part of the Basic, Drivetrain or Hybrid coverage. The normal starting battery is covered as part of the Basic warranty and even then you only get a pro-rated value for the remaining life of the battery. My guess is that the batteries themselves will be under the Basic coverage while the actual electric "booster" motor on the tranny is covered under the drivetrain or hybrid warranty.

    I can just the hear conversation with the dealership at 50K miles now..."Hybrid owner: my fuel economy is down and I think the batteries aren't holding their full charge...I want my batteries replaced under the warranty....Dealer: I'm sorry sir, but the batteries are operating properly...it must be the way you're operating the vehicle...you're accelerating too hard".

    Either way, what do you think the resale value is going to be based on the second owner having to pony up thousands of $ for the replacement batteries?

    I see GM (and other car makers) making as much off replacement battery sales as they do off the original sale of a hybrid vehicle. Of course the primary owners of hybrid vehicles are going to be left holding the bag as the resale value plummets to a number that reflects the used value of the vehicle minus the replacement cost of a new set of batteries.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    The Sequoia is based on the Tundra, hence the same dashboard layout.
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    Right-understand that, but there is still the issue of trying to sell a 60K SUV with a 25K truck interior in it. My point was just that if the LC interior was in the 60K Sequoia Platinum edition (instead of the lipstick on the pig 25K Tundra dash), we'd be definitely purchasing a Sequoia.
  • The MSRP was 73k and he was willing to sell at 65k. The MSRP of the platinum was 59600 and he was willing to sell at 55k
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    We also sell 45k Tundras and no one complains about the same dash. ;)
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    Two thoughts there....
    First- there is a sizeable jump in price from 45K to 55/60K for a loaded Platinum. You're changing your comparison group from Nissan/Ford/Chevy to Cadillac/Denali/Infiniti/Mercedes. Big difference there.

    Second- The Tundra is a truck and while I'm sure there are people who buy them "just to have", there are less families buying Tundras as the family station wagon as families buying a Seqouia as their family station wagon. Different uses bring different expectations.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    Does anyone know what the Toyota Electronic Modulated Suspension (H-TEMS) is on the Platimum? Does that include the rear air suspension? My reason for asking is that I plan to do some very heavy towing. What's the maximum allowable tongue weight (assuming a weight distributing hitch)? Has anyone here done any heavy towing with an '08 Sequoia yet? Thanks in advance for your help.
  • The Sequoia is generations ahead of the Escalade in terms of engine technology and drive train. The Toyota will also be far superior to the Escalade in terms of reliability and refinement.

    Yes the Escalade has a nicer dash and is defnitely a better looking car

    Ultimately your choice will depend on what your preferences. I would rather prefer a car that has the qualities of the Sequoia.
  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    "Does anyone know what the Toyota Electronic Modulated Suspension (H-TEMS) is on the Platimum? Does that include the rear air suspension? My reason for asking is that I plan to do some very heavy towing. What's the maximum allowable tongue weight (assuming a weight distributing hitch)? Has anyone here done any heavy towing with an '08 Sequoia yet? Thanks in advance for your help."

    The 2wd Platinum (with H-TEMS) has a tow rating of 9100lbs and the 4wd version has a rating of 8800lbs. Generally you would want between 10 & 15% of the towed vehicle's weight on the tongue of the trailer. http://www.etrailer.com/faq_trailertowtips.aspx

    There is no such thing as a vehicle tongue weight rating as its a function of the overall vehicle's payload rating and how much load is in the vehicle versus on the tongue. To be on the conservative side, you would generally not want your vehicles load plus the tongue weight to exceed the vehicle's payload rating. In the case of the 2wd Platinum that would be 1330 lbs.
  • I have a 2007 Tundra, and although there isnt a specific VSC off button, you can still shut it down completely. You first, push the traction control button off, then right after that, hold it again for about 5 seconds. The VSC off light should appear right next to the traction control light. This procedure must be done when when the car is stopped.
  • fshifshi Posts: 57
    it is a joke that you mention prius and tahoe in the same post, does anyone cross shop these two? I care green, but not to the extreme to sacrifice capability. Tahoe is the best compromise as I see it.

    As you mention MB, did we talk in tahoe's forum before? hehe, old friend.
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 380
    I was hoping that the factory towing hitch would be labeled with two maximum tongue weights...one for a weight carrying hitch, and the other for a weight distributing hitch, and/or there would be a mention of this in someone's owners manual. Has anyone seen anything like this?

    Does anyone know what the H-TEMS system on the Platinum is? And can you still get the rear air suspension with it?

    Also, does anyone know why the tow rating is so different for an SR5 versus Limited versus Platimum? The brochure indicates that the total vehicle weight is not that much different between them. With the 5.7 engine the SR5 is rated at 9600, but the Limited and Platimum are rating at only 9100 and 8800 respectively.
  • I have been told that even though there is an option for 20" wheels on the the 2008 Toyota Sequoia Limited, that in my region it is not available from Toyota as of yet. I live in CT. My dealership took the order, but I have been told this from other dealerships. I have been waiting for the vehicle for about 5 weeks. Does anyone know if this statement is true?
  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    The referemce to the Prius was definitely a joke.... just making the point that buying a vehicle primarily because it has the right image is a little ridiculous IMO. However I recognize that many people buy their vehicles to give their neighbors the right "image" and in fact the car companies sell their products based on image.

    Just not my approach to buying a vehicle, but I guess it works for others. Image is alot less important to me than it seems to be for others (or then it was to me when I was younger). I'm more interested in the features and benefits and do they meet my needs or wants.

    I don't think I've ever been on the Tahoe forum, although it is possible.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    It's never been a comparison between Mercedes, Escalade,Infiniti, etc., that's what we have Lexus for. The Sequoia was always meant to be a competitor to the Ford Expedition, Chevy Tahoe/Suburban which it has beat my a mile. It's certain folks that always compare Toyota to luxury or semi luxury vehicles and we end up with Toyota being a better value overall.
    :shades:
  • Has anyone been successful with XM radio via the factory JBL system (i.e. not aftermarket) with an '08 Sequoia? There is a $469 Tuner & antenna option (RX6), but I have yet to hear of anyone with XM radio in the new Sequoia.
  • samcemsamcem Posts: 5
    This morning I hit 375 miles on my new Sequoia and the check engine light went on! I have a service appointment tomorrow and I hope it is something simple.
    :sick:
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    I respectfully disagree on both accounts.

    Lexus has no comparable vehicle to the Sequoia. In fact, I think that I've seen Toyota marketing attempt to make the link btwn the Platinum being "Lexus-like".

    While there are obviously many ways to draw the parameters for a comparison group, many of us use the price. Making that assumption, the comparison group for a Sequoia Platinum is the Mercedes, Escalade, QX56, Navigator, etc. Value is then measured in many different manners as well, and Toyota has some advantages and some distinct disadvantages. Those have been well documented in these threads.
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