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2008 Toyota Sequoia



  • hdfatboyhdfatboy Posts: 324
    "I hate to burst your bubble but there is already an Option Package E. MSRP $2323.00"

    What was I thinking......I should've known....

    Remind me again how that supposed quote from P.T. Barnum goes......?
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Looks like you are in the dreaded Southeast Toyota distributors region or Gulf States. These two are privately owned and Toyota Motor sales USA basically sells their vehicles to them and they do whatever they want to them. Enkei alloy wheels, Toyoguard, paint schemes, Extra mile packages (worthless) etc, etc, that's how you get the bloated MSRPs. I put a link on there so you would confiure a Platinum Sequoia from Toyota not the privately owned distributors. It comes out to less the 59k unless you want to add the "fluffl".
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    Thanks for the laugh...I just had a vision of Clark W. Griswold driving his wood paneled wagon which led to a vision of Christie Brinkley jumping into the pool. Thanks for the smiles! :)
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    The listing I posted was from a Mid-Atlantic dealer. Is some of the extra 2-3K "fluff"? Sure...probably, but it is still a 62K sticker for a Sequoia Platinum.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Tell me which post I said the smart key was a luxury feature and I'll eat my words. When I said Toyota owners are not looking for these features I didn't qualify my statement with this: Toyota queries current owners and asks what features they would like to see on future vehicles. They did this with the previous gen Avalon hence some features were new to Toyota in the current gen Avalon. Same thing with previous gen Sequoia owners. The smart key is simply a trickle down feature from Toyotas sold overseas. Even the lowly Yaris is available with smart key in Japan.

    Considering the truck has only been out not more than a month I would say sales are brisk. I sold the first Platinum to hit the dealership and others have sold a few also along with a couple of limiteds and SR5'S. Production has ramped up and I believe we have 7 sitting on the lot right now, one Platinum, 2 limiteds and 4 SR5's. Interesting to see three of the SR5'S have leather interior and a few other options and they are running around 44k.

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    I just "BUILT" a Yukon Denali 4x4 "luxury" suv comparably equipped to the Platinum Sequoia. MSRP: $57.165.00 link title The Denali does not offer laser cruise, a fold flat second or third row seat, heated and cooled front passenger seats, center row heated seats, driver selectable suspension, standard 20 inch alloys, etc. Towing capacity is less than Sequoia even though the Denali has about 6lb-ft of torque and 1 less horsepower. Sequoia is better looking too. ;)
    Now we'll compare the QX ..STAY TUNED!
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Here's something similar, they don't offer laser cruise, third row is not leather? No heated and cooled front seats, anyway, less horspower and torque than Sequoia, less towing capacity than Sequoia, less vehicle than Sequoia. MSRP $52,110. I couldn't find the nav system anywhere, and the LE package, moonroof package. LE 2 package had no description of what's included.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Here's the Armada..uh I mean the QX similar to Sequoia but still lacking. link title MSRP $59,015.00 very close to Sequoia but no cigar. Dated design, Sequoia new design.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Now let's look at the Expedition MSRP $54,135.00. Third row vinyl seats?? Less horsepower and torque, less towing capacity although it's the one closest to Sequoia. I noticed most of the domestics have power adjustable pedals, Must be so the wives can drive the vehicles. No self respecting man would drive one of those.
  • I stopped by the Lexus dealer and drove the LX 570. It is a pretty good vehicle. The sequoia is much more spacious and the ride is equally good. However the fit and finish is much better in the sequoia.

    The dealer would not sell the vehicle at anything less than full price (83K) and hence I decided to stick with my platinum. It is 28k less and has the same drive train and more space. The LX is a lot prettier!
  • eagle34eagle34 Posts: 22
    Nice call mack. QX is still 3000 cheaper and has many more features. Keep trying you'll eventually find another 62000 vehicle with a 1500 dashboard and seats. My son's 4runner sport is nicer than that Sequoia for half the price. Didn't even need the "applique enhancement option package" to gussy it up for the unsuspecting public.
  • keg97keg97 Posts: 189
    You listed several features and said that Toyota buyers don't want those features. Yet Toyota offers some of those features on vehicles w/MSRP's half of the Sequoia. That makes no sense. Ck back on pg 48 or so.

    I like your comparisons....have you even driven or been in any of these vehicles recently? Can you make objective observations about the leather quality, other materials in the competition v. the Sequoia? We all know that numbers don't tell the entire story.

    My comments to you have been primarly b/c you make very generalized comments that many of us here shopping these vehicles dispute. That is why I made the reference about rose-colored Toyota sales glasses. It is one thing to believe in your product. It is an entirely different thing to blindly believe that your product is worlds better than other VERY comparable products or even refuse to asknowledge who that competition is.

    You probably would not like customers like my wife and I b/c we would challenge general comments that you make here. Challenge may be a bad choice of words, but we like for sales folks to point out the differences in their product vs. somebody elses. But we also want the points to be as objective as possible bc we'll follow through on the observations and confirm them with our own eyes. Once credibility is is very difficult to gain it again.

    Again-nothing wrong with being proud and confident in your products, but there is a fine line btwn knowing the competition and feeling the need to knock everybody else's product to hide the Sequoia's faults.

    Quick for a previous SUV. We were going in to close the deal on one and my wife, on the way over to the dealership, asked to go see something else first. I was ticked since we had made up our minds, but did the right thing and took her there. But first I wanted to let our salesperson know why we would not be in to sign the paperwork. He was great...he did not attempt to talk us out of going to the other dealership. After we came back the next day to close the original deal, I asked him why he did not attempt to hassle/pressure us into coming in. His simple answer...."I knew what you guys wanted and that you would not want the ________. I knew that our ________ was the best SUV for you guys". Quiet confidence....I liked it then and like it now.
  • trebor129trebor129 Posts: 176
    "The Yukon Hybrid starts at just under $53K and goes up to just over $56K. The MB GL320 CDI starts at just over $53K and goes up to $77K. For under $54K MSRP you could have a high quality, highly efficient, tow vehicle with plenty of interior space and far greater resale value than a Yukon Hybrid. "

    Mercedes stripped it and sells the needed features as options. The Yukon has more standard features. The reality of it is that you can get the Yukon with nav/DVD/leader/hitch for $56K MSRP whereas the Mercedes would be $73K MSRP. That is $17K difference. In reality it may be more as the GMC will be discounted more.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,944
    I would like to see an EPA test on a hybrid at 1000 miles and again at 60000 miles.

    If you'd trust an owner instead, you can follow the real world mpg discussion for the Prius (or whatever hybrid).

    For example, over 65k and over 47 mpg:

    kdhspyder, "Toyota Prius MPG-Real World Numbers" #488, 14 Jan 2008 8:55 am

    Need help navigating? - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Well keg, I don't know what else to say. I do believe in my products and know the competition quite well and have driven their products. Call me a Toyota homer but I know quality, dependability, and reliability. And Toyota has those three in the bag. I'm not putting the others down just pointing out their shortcomings and our advantages. I could post more advantages that are not listed in the brochures or online but it would be pointless. Enjoy your SUV. And I would win you over as a customer. I like challenges and I know my stuff, after I had shown you the Sequoia and driven it I would dare you to check out the competition and if you found something better to buy it.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    No. It's not 3k cheaper. I compared MSRP TO MSRP. Not dealer inflated mark up. The 4runner doesn't compare to the Sequoia. Two different animals.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    I just looke back at my posts and I never said it. You are actually the one that did. To wit:
    "I can't believe that you would really say that "Toyota owners don't want luxury features". :P
  • I love Toyotas and prefer not to say bad things about other products. However the QX is one of the most troble prone vehicles that is sold in the US. Go back a couple of years and Forbes, Consumer Reports among others had reported it to be one of the least reliable vehicles. THe main problem is that it is has too many gadgets and they break down.

    Again, even the CEO of Nissan Carlos Ghosn said last month that he is thinking of stopping the production/development of Titan Trucks because they are not selling many vehicles. Given these statements why would you want to buy a QX 56.
  • amheck1amheck1 Posts: 44
    I heard a radio ad for one of the local dealers saying they are doubling all manufacturer incentives. I knew there was nothing on the 2008 Sequoia's but I emailed anyway, just to see what they said. Here's the reply.

    "At this point there aren't [any incentives]. The vehicle has been completely redesigned. I drive one as a demo and it is a winner. We currently have two in stock with an order of six more due in within a week to ten days. Most dealers are selling them at or above MSRP. I would be willing to give you a slight discount on one if you're interested. Let me know."

    Funny, cause I've talked to another dealer who will go $500 over invoice.

  • eagle34eagle34 Posts: 22
    Consumer reports needs to stick to ranking curling irons and microwaves. They rated the Tundra very low too. I've been driving trucks since 1984 and can honestly say the Tundra is the best so far. I don't put alot of stock in publications like that. I would much rather read forums like this to gather my info before a purchase. The QX does have documented issues but they are for the most part limited to 04-05. This is my wife's vehicle and quality of routine service down the road is important to her as well as a longer factory warranty. We eagerly awaited the arrival of the Sequoia and when the dealer finally got one we were very disappointed with the interior quality. So much so she did not even care to drive it. I know the powertrain is awesome but at the end of the day I just couldn't justify hopping in a 60k Sequoia everyday and thinking, yep just like my truck. As far as Nissan stopping production, I could really care less if they stopped tomorrow. Wouldn't be good for resale I guess but putting my wife in a vehicle she can't stand is not good either. This vehicle will be depreciated through my business so resale has never been a concern of mine anyway. If you're buying a vehicle based on resale value you should probably take a closer look at your financial goals. Buy what makes you happy and that's what we did.
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