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Mazda 626 Troubles

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  • rpm9rpm9 Posts: 73
    After thinking long and hard about it, I've decided to go forward and save up the rest of the money to have the AC fixed in my 626. I came up with this conclusion when I asked myself how long I planned on keeping my car: Another 100K miles was my answer, which equates to about another 4-5 years.
  • mark38lmark38l Posts: 10
    My 1998 check engine light came on at about 52,000 miles it stayed lit all the time for about 2 weeks it went out at about 53,100 miles. It has now re-lit itself at about 58,000 miles. Does anyone have any advice. I hate to bring it to the Mazda dealer who know what kind of story they will give me. It a 1998 626 LX with a 5-speed manual and A/I and all the power accories.

    Any advice is appreaited

    Mark
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    But there's a very good reason why that light is there. If you don't trust the dealership, find a worthy independent mechanic, but get those codes pulled. There simply is no "do this and the light will go away" trickery in the age of OBD II.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    If the light is on the mechanic can put on the diagnostic machine and pull a code. It won't tell you everything, but it sure gives a good idea of where to troubleshoot. 3 months after replacing the spark plugwires and distributer, and one month after replacing a timing belt it ran rough. He went in an pulled the codes and found out that it had weak vacuum. Replaced for $25.00 diagnostics and $12.00 for the hose.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Posts: 1,118
    Believe it or not my best mechanics are from referrals of other mechanics. I asked my Mazda dealer if he had someone who recently left to set up his own shop. He recommended Bud, and I've been very happy. Dealerships have new mechanics who get experience and when they have it, they set up their own shops. His repairs are efficient, and accurate.
  • gurnagegurnage Posts: 1
    It never ends. Through countless problems ranging from a blown out transmission to a stuck gear shift to a bad idle (that is yet to be identified by numerous mechanics) to a botched paint job with bad oxidation. I have had it. It's time for a VW or Honda.
  • sugarmagsugarmag Posts: 10
    Just got home from my local Mazda dealer. Noticed my tranny (auto) was hunting gears & jerking yesterday. Then today I'm driving & it won't shift out of 2nd. I'm going 35 mph & I'm @ 5000 rpms!! And whenever I stop, it kicks down roughly & surges. NICE. I drove it straight to the dealer about 1-2 miles away, they tell me it doesn't do it when they drive it, I rode w/ them & it shifted fine but kept running hot. What the heck is going on? They tried to tell me take it home & if it does it again, bring it back. I told them I sure as h**l was not driving it until it was fixed, especially w/ it running hot. I had to take it in when I first bought it b/c it would hunt gears while cruising the hwy, they could never duplicate that either, then it seemed to go away. I told them I don't want to hear this "can't duplicate" crap anymore. I only have 25k on the car. Any ideas? Thanks!
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    I think this might be a cooling-system issue, with the transmission getting bad data from the temp sensor and acting up accordingly. (And, of course, that same cooling system is also expected to keep the tranny fluid below a rolling boil.)

    No sign of the dreaded Malfunction Indicator Lamp?
  • sugarmagsugarmag Posts: 10
    To windowphobe6 - No check engine lights, no temp or oil lights, no nothing. They were at a loss at the dealership, like I said before. They're idiots anyway. It didn't run hot until I drove it w/ the tech. I will suggest your idea to them tommorow. I'm concerned about the tranny though, since I've experienced gear hunting before. The coolant was smoking like crazy when the tech popped my hood and opened the cap after the drive. I just hope it's not major. If they can't get it back to me tommorow I'm going to insist on a loaner.
  • godfather2godfather2 Posts: 13
    Interesting thing happened today. My girlfriend has been two months late on her bill from a local tire company. Apparently, they've made several attempts to try and get the payment from her.

    I guess they finally ran out of patience and showed up at our door to take the tires off the car. I couldn't believe that they could actually do this kind of thing.

    I go to find out that her loan on the tires was a secured loan (backed by the tires themselves). It's sort of like repossessing a set of tires when the loan becomes delinquent. Anyway, she called the manager at the tire store while the repo tireman waited, and luckily, she was able to negotiate arrangements with the manager and so they didn't take her tires off of her 94 626.

    Very strange incident indeed.
  • agt_cooperagt_cooper Posts: 202
    She made a promise to pay for the things she bought, and they agreed to accept her promise, with the security of the tires as collateral should she fail to live up to her end of the bargain.

    She failed, so they took action. How is that strange?

    And how is that related to Mazda 626 Troubles?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,147
    The guy is just telling a story. Back off, man!

    I, for one, found it interesting. Never heard of acquiring tires that way before.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • godfather2godfather2 Posts: 13
    Quit being so tense in life. Perhaps if you relaxed more, you wouldn't be so unlikeable.

    Maybe I should tell you that my girlfriend injured her back and was forced to quit her job and therefore cannot pay her bills. Her back is so injured that the doctor has ordered her to stay home indefinitely.

    Before you start barking at people in this forum, maybe you should get the facts first.
  • godfather2godfather2 Posts: 13
    agt_cooper, my post #570 relates to the "Mazda 626 Troubles" forum because the "trouble" was an attempt to reposses tires on my girlfriend's "94 Mazda 626". This forum is not limited to just bad trannys, failed oxygen sensors, and other random maintenance issues. This forum is about "ALL" Mazda 626 related "TROUBLES".

    Or do you not understand that?

    Oh, and by the way, FYI: As stated in post #570, my girlfriend did make financial arrangements with the manager and I have volunteered to make her payments for her.
  • rpm9rpm9 Posts: 73
    I completely 100% agree with your post stating that this forum is for any and all troubles regarding the Mazda 626.

    Here's my latest story: I went to a professional sunroof company and had my sunroof problem diagnosed because it was intermittently working and not working. After checking the switches, they determined that they were 90% sure that it was a bad motor and that it needed to be replaced.

    I called the Mazda dealer and a brand new sunroof motor for a 94 626 was $364. Ouch!!! I said no way to that so I opted to go to the wrecking yard and was able to find a motor on a 96 626 for just $65 (and guaranteed to work or my money back).

    This coming Tuesday (6/19) is my appointment to get the wrecking yard part installed by the sunroof company. I will update ya'll on the end result of this risk I'm taking.
  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    This is one case where it's probably advisable to bypass the dealer anyway, since they have a tendency to quote four-digit figures for most sunroof repairs and they probably don't do enough of them to get really good at them.

    The vast majority of parts I've gotten from, um, recyclers over the years have worked just fine.
  • godfather2godfather2 Posts: 13
    The more I read about these 626's, the more I realize that perhaps these cars really aren't that reliable.

    I went out to go in my girlfriend's 626 this morning and the factory alarm suddenly went off after unlocking the driver's side door. The horn kept going until I was able to call the dealer to get instructions in how to turn it off. The solution was to turn the key of the driver's side lock cylinder two times which caused the horn to finally cease honking. What a relief! I'm sure the neighbors weren't too appreciative.

    So here's my question: Anyone out there ever experience this same similar problem and what did you do to fix it? Apparently, I was told by the dealer that the alarm cannot just simply be disconnected without possibly causing other electrical problems and that my options are either to replace a possibly defective alarm switch inside the door or repair something in the computer module.

    It seems to me that Mazda really designed the alarm system very poorly if one can't just simply disconnect it if they please. Heck, in actuality, Mazda has made some bad designs overall with the 626's and it's no wonder more people buy Hondas and Toyotas.

    I think I'm going to persuade my girlfriend to sell her 94 626. Out of all the cars I've ever had a relationship with, her 626 has definitely been the most problematic of all of them. It has been nothing but one problem after another and without a doubt, the biggest money pit of a car I've ever witnessed in my life.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,147
    sorry to hear about your distaste for the Mazda. You really can't make blanket statements like that, though. There are plenty of people who many trouble free years out of their 626 (i'm one of them). In my opinion, the biggest reason why more people buy Toyotas and Hondas is because they are more in fashion. My sister has more problems with her 2 year old Civic than I've had with my 3 year old 626. She would have been better off with a Protege, but she sees so many more Civics around, the Civic just seems like the better choice.

    There are certain things the mazda stands out for. I test drove the Camry/Accord before getting my 626. Why did I pick the Mazda? Main reason was that I found it handled MUCH better than the others. It also helped a great deal that the salesman didn't feel like he was dealing out a solid gold car, unlike the Toyota and Honda salesfolks.

    Hey. get what ya like. Sell the car if ya want and the next owner will have a car with several of the bugs already worked out. :)

    P.S. It IS 7 years old. They can't last forever. My Toyota was right around 7 years old when it blew a head gasket and the exhaust fell off for the umpteenth time. Made it to about 9 years before I decided to pawn it off on someone else.

    Good luck.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • windowphobe6windowphobe6 Posts: 765
    This particular alarm system is generally unobtrusive - I drove my '93 for two months before I realized I had it - but shutting it down is highly unintuitive, as I found out when I set off the darn thing one day in the office parking lot.

    The '93-'95 models were probably the least-reliable of any of the twenty-odd years of 626, though still about average compared with the rest of the vehicles of that vintage; the '94, with CD4E version 1.0, is arguably the worst of the lot, and the only one which draws the wrath of Consumer Reports. I didn't have quite so many issues with my own '93. However, if my correspondence is at all representative, when a fourth-generation 626 goes bad, it's often as not really, really bad.
  • rpm9rpm9 Posts: 73
    I have to agree a little bit with godfather2 because I have spent over $3400 on my 94 626 in the last five months. I guess you might say I'm a little obsessive-compulsive with my seven year old 626. (Luckily, my family is sporting me the financial help with my OCB problem).

    In addition, I still have to replace my power moonroof motor (with a used one) that will cost me $115 parts and labor. And to top it all off, I am planning on investing another $365 parts and labor to replace the worn-out high pressure switch on my air conditioner compressor.

    This car has definitely been the most expensive car I have ever owned, but I'm only doing it because I am planning on filing bankruptcy real soon, and therefore, will probably need to keep this car for another five or so years before I can get financed at a decent interest rate. And of course, let's not forget to mention that I truly love the way it handles and the V6 5-speed is sure fun to drive. (Thank goodness I didn't get the automatic!)

    But will I ever buy another Mazda again? Probably not. I believe that the "other" Japanese manufacturers build much better quality cars; especially now that Ford Motor Company owns a one-third stake of Mazda. What a shame for Mazda. It's going to "zoom-zoom-zoom" its way into earning the same reputation as the B-leaguers of domestic car makers...

    BTW, I hope your girlfriend heals soon Godfather2.
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