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Dodge Caravan Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • I'm new to this board here ... found it while researching vehicles.

    Wife & I have twins on the way (in addition to our 3-yr old) so we need to bite the bullet and get a minivan. Thinking of getting a Caravan or a T&C (aren't they the exact same vehicle?). Money is real tight, so if anyone has an EC code or friends code for 2008, then I would reeeeeealy appreciate it. .... I'll even put you on my Christmas card list!! ;)

    I know not to put my personal e-mail addy on here & I know that everyone gets a carspace e-mail addy with an account, but how in the world do I get to this carspace e-mail account? I sent myself an e-mail to my carspace account from my personal account, but it didn't go through... it gave me something like a "permanent delivery error" message. ... Also, where do you go to send an e-mail to another member? ... I've looked all over this site and don't see anything. Any help to clear up this confusion would be great! :confuse:
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    Also, where do you go to send an e-mail to another member?

    Hi. You can access your Carspace mailbox by going to the My Carspace link near the top left of this page.

    The reason you couldn't send email to your carspace box is because I believe they are set to block email from outside sources by default. I guess it keeps spam down. I think you can change that in your personal settings.
  • We are looking to purchase a 2008 sxt. The dealers have been giving us unreasonable prices. It would be great to have a correct price for the van. We are looking for the SXT. I know there are lots of packages. Can anyone explain them. We just want a van with2nd row windows, sliding doors. dual climate control. Just the important things. Any advice or codes would be appreciated. We will be purchasing this weekend. You can email us at mt.mc@live.com
    Thanks so much!!
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    I know there are lots of packages. Can anyone explain them.

    You can read more about the various package options at the link below.

    2008 Grand Caravan
  • mthompxxmthompxx Posts: 6
    Hi, I just leased a grand caravan yesterday under the employee discount program. My Wife's Uncle works for Chrysler. The salesman gave me the discount without any control number. I signed the lease, and I have had the van for over 24 hours now. I got a hold of the uncle, and he gave me the control number. Come to find out, nieces are not eligible for the discount. The sales man said I need to get a number now, and I should get a hold of someone who works for Chrysler to get one.

    my question is that since I already signed the lease for this amount, isn't it all said and done now. Or do I still need to get a number to keep my van at this price. I would think that if it was submitted without the control number, and I signed the lease I should be in the clear now, and not have to pay the extra 1600 price difference. Any advice I can get would be great. Thank you.
    Matt.
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    I would think that if it was submitted without the control number, and I signed the lease I should be in the clear now, and not have to pay the extra 1600 price difference.

    It looks like the dealer calculated the price based on you telling him that you could get the employee discount through a relative. Listed below are the only people who can qualify for that.

    All Chrysler active full-time and part-time Employees/Retirees. Immediate family members including spouse, same-sex domestic partners,* parents, parents-in-law, stepparents, sons/daughters, sons/daughters-in-law, stepchildren, brothers/sisters, brothers/sisters-in-law, half brothers/sisters, grandchildren and grandparents.

    I have a friend who bought a minivan last fall and the dealer gave him the employee discount before he actually had a number. I didn't even know he'd bought it until he called later that evening and asked me for an EC control number. Fortunately, that program was still active and I still had a number left to give him. He had to take it back to the dealer the next business day and process the paperwork for the discount.

    In your case, you might try asking your wife's uncle for a Friends discount. The price is usually $300-$400 more than the employee discount, based on personal observation, but it's still a lot less than MSRP - around 1% below invoice, in addition to any rebates or other price incentives. You do not have to be related in any way to a Chrysler employee to use a Friends discount.

    To everyone else, I'm all out of discount numbers for 2008 - sorry.
  • mthompxxmthompxx Posts: 6
    Did he already have the Van and the Paperwork signed then? Should the dealer wait for the control number before printing out the paperwork, and signing, then taking the van home? It seems that if they don't wait for the 100% guarentee it is theire fault, and the consumer shouldn't be help Liable after that.
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    Did he already have the Van and the Paperwork signed then?

    He had the van; not sure about the paperwork.

    I've heard from sales people that they have a much better chance of closing a sale if they can put the customer in a vehicle, even if it means coming back the next day to arrange the financing or whatever.

    I've read stories on these forums where the financing wasn't always approved and the potential buyer had to return the vehicle.
  • mthompxxmthompxx Posts: 6
    See, i have all the paperwork. the lease statement, the approval. The van is in my name, plates are transferred and insurance is on it. Everything is 100% done, except for the control number. I just don't see how they could come back to me if they were the ones to let it go without getting the control number verification.
  • A similiar thing happend to me a few years ago with a Chrysler's employee discount. They called and said i couldn't use the number i gave them. I just called the dealer back and asked if they wanted me to return their "used" durango, cause i was not paying any more. They found a way to work it out and just asked me to use the word Excellent alot when i got the phone survey.
  • Just bought my DC SXT today using the friends discount. I didn't have a number, I just saw the "Friends" price on the invoice and told the dealer I'd take it for that and they agreed. So you don't need a friends number to get the discount...just state that's the price you want...and I avoided the $75 program fee. (I probably could have haggled for a few hundred more I feel I got a fair deal):

    Here's the breakdown:
    DC SXT, L pkg w/dual screen DVD: MSRP $31,335
    Friends discount -$2,585
    Cash back -$2,000
    Loyalty rebate -$750

    Cost before TTL $26,000

    Wonder how others are doing....please post your results!
  • xenuxenu Posts: 4
    Ok, i hate to beg, but i really need a control number. I have a deal ready for tomorow for a t&c and the guy
    who was supposed to get me a number has not returned my emails. I dont know if they will give me the deal without the number, but i would rather have it. Please help!
  • mssoozmssooz Posts: 1
    My hubby and I and our expanding family are getting ready to purchase a 2008 T & C Limited any minute now. We've been given a F & F discount code. Another friend has asked a Chrysler employee to sign us up for the Employee Discount. He has my information and I'm waiting on the email but now I see that the Employee Discount has been discontinued. Darn the luck. So I guess I'm expecting 1% below invoice. Can you please confirm that the dealer will show me the invoice and the PP (preferred pricing) will be listed in plain old black and white for me? I understand that I can take a $1500 rebate instead of great financing (check around -- you can get great financing at a local credit union). I called the rebate center and found out about an additional $1000 rebate if you already own a Chrysler product. I asked the rep how you prove that you own a Chrysler product if you don't drive it there. She said that you have to provide the last 8 digits of a VIN and that they might ask you to show a registration or something. Well, until very recently, I owned a Jeep and I have a large file of service records, extended warranty information, etc. on it and could easily provide the last 8 digits of a VIN to save an additional $1,000. But if they're going to grill me and force me to sign over the rights to my next born, I'm not going to push the issue of trying to save an additional $1,000. Can anyone tell me based on their real life recent buying experience, what you had to provide in order to get the $1,000 rebate for owning a Chrysler product? Also, I'm pricing the new van with the M package and a moonroof. I'm told that the L package is cheaper and that I can get a moonroof with that, but the www.chrysler.com website won't let me. Any answers to any of my questions would be greatly appreciated. Personal email is mssooz@swbell.net
    Suzi
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    Can you please confirm that the dealer will show me the invoice and the PP (preferred pricing) will be listed in plain old black and white for me?

    Yes, the PP (Friends) price will be shown right on the invoice. There's no dollar sign next to it but the numbers are not in code or anything. If you have a Friends discount number with you they must show you the invoice if you ask.

    Other than TTL (in some states) the only thing the dealer can add to that price is up to $75 for a documentation fee. Also, dealer add-ons, such as aftermarket tinted glass or stripes, would be an additional fee. Run out the door if they start talking about things like dealer prep or marketing fees.

    If you are trading something be sure and do your homework on the value of your old vehicle before you get to the dealer. The salesman that sold me my Sebring last September even said that they couldn't give me as much for my trade as the GM dealer down the road, since I had an employee discount.
  • scoutllscoutll Posts: 40
    I posted this in the Town and country thread before I saw the Caravan one, but here it is.
    I just bought a Grand Caravan SXT with 25L, leather interior group, dual screen video and satellite as the major options. Sticker price was 34,134 including transportation. I ended up paying 25,449.42 after discounts, incentives ect. Another plus, the first three years oil changes are free too (Military Appreciation). I didn't trade in, which made the deal a lot easier to make. I have bought from the dealer before (Minot Chrysler Center in Minot, North Dakota) and have never had an unplesant experiance with them. In over 30 years of buying cars, they are the only dealership where I have always left feeling good about the deal. Just about every other car I have ever bought, I left the dealership feeling "violated" at some level or another.
  • Can anyone pls advise if the published invoices found in the internet is accurate? Is this the same invoice if you pay a few hundred dollars to Edmunds, Autobytel, etc.? Do the dealers have more than 1 invoice? Also, can anyone pls confirm the fees and w/c ones are non-negotiable? I'm in the SF Bay Area (CA) and ready to buy but research may be inaccurate. Looks like invoice postings vary between states and forumers? Is the calculation below correct? Please let me know w/c dealers gave great deals. Read somewhere that there are other discounts - friends/family (1% under invoice), Chrysler mag coupon (750), conquest (500), etc. What’s the difference between Dodge SE vs SE Value (free stow n go $945)? Appreciate your advises/help.
    DODGE SE
    invoice - 19,648
    dest - 770
    20,418
    24H pkg 3,247 vs. Chrysler LX - 2,596
    Ent grp #1 1,866
    25,531
    tax (8.75) 2,,234
    27,765 vs. Chrysler LX - 28,596
    ADD or SUBTRACT FEES
    doc fee ?
    ca emission fee ?
    color adjustment ?
    title/license (dmv registration) ?
    add dealer markup ?
    regional adjustmnt ?
    tire tax ?
    tag transfer ?
    eec file ?
    LESS
    non-negotiable? dlr holdback - 766
    minivan loyalty - 1,000
    cust cashback - 1,500
    FINAL COST - ?
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    I can answer a few of your questions.

    2008 Dodge Grand Caravan SE -
    MSRP: $26,390
    Friends discount: $2,383

    2008 Chrysler Town & Country LX with H Package -
    MSRP: $26,545
    Friends discount: $2,345

    The Friends discount is before any rebates or other price incentives, which can be combined for even greater savings.
  • csteinbecsteinbe Posts: 10
    I just reached a deal on a `08 Caravan SXT. Configured as 25L + PV6 (Orange....)

    MSRP $20,140
    Friends Price: $28,039

    The invoice listed on Edmunds is $27,587 (including the CMA marketing code). The invoice I was shown didn't have the CMA, but did have $404 in other costs (including T02 which was NY - DAA and B02 which is NY - PPA/EB-PF). The price with those ends up being about 30 bucks or so above the Edmunds invoice, which I guess was close enough.

    I was given a money factor of .00170 and residual of 46%. With lease loyalty and a regional marketing discount of $500, I ended up with $4000 in rebates.

    Does the friends price for the 25L SXT with PV6 of $28,039 make sense? Were the lease numbers I was given the current Chrysler ones?

    Thanks all,

    Craig
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    MSRP $20,140
    Friends Price: $28,039


    I think I'd be more inclined to just pay the MSRP on this one. :D

    You probably meant $30,140, since when I looked up an SXT with Sunburst Orange and the 25L package it showed $30,140. Anyway...

    MSRP: $30,140
    Friends discount: $2,815
    Net price: $27,325

    Any rebates or other price incentives would further reduce the net price. Rebates vary by region. You can find out the current ones for your area by calling the Rebate Hot Line at (800) 227-0757.

    Where did you get the Friends price that you listed? Did you see it printed on the actual invoice at the dealer?

    Also, I don't know a thing about any lease numbers. The prices I listed were copied from website that gives a general idea of what a buyer can expect to pay for a similar vehicle. As always, the actual invoice is the official word.
  • csteinbecsteinbe Posts: 10
    Yes, $30,140 is the MSRP, sorry about the typo there. I saw what appeared to be an invoice, or at least a printout of an invoice from a dealer locate system. There were what appeared to be some regional charges tacked on (gas, and NY-DAA and NY PPA/EP-PF lines). Those add ons varied depending on which dealer the van was obtained from, so I'm guessing they were regional delivery fees.

    The dealer is getting the vehicle from another, so I might stop by and ask to review all of the paperwork before trade-in day. I understand there is an acknowledgement form to sign, so that should explain the details.

    I didn't think there was room to wiggle with this program, and I'd be very disappointed if the dealer was playing games.

    Thanks for looking at the prices.
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    Thanks for looking at the prices.

    Here's how to tell if you're getting the right price on the new minivan. First, ask to see the actual invoice. Next, look on the sheet for a "PP" (Preferred Pricing) code. That's the same as the Friends price.

    The only thing they can add to that price is up to $75 for a documentation fee. Also, TTL is paid at the dealership in some states. However, there are no marketing fees, transfer fees or any other fees that can be added. The delivery charge that you see on the window sticker is already included in the Friends price. Dealer add-ons, such as aftermarket tinted glass or stripes would be an extra cost.

    Do your homework on your trade-in value. When I bought my Sebring last year using an employee discount the salesman said he could not match what I would get for my trade at a GM or Ford dealership because he wasn't making any money on the sale. Expect a very low offer.

    As I started to stand up to go down the road to see what the Saturn dealer had to say they suddenly were willing to negotiate a bit on my trade. I ended up getting around twice the amount for it they had originally offered. :confuse:
  • csteinbecsteinbe Posts: 10
    I finished my deal today and wanted to follow up.

    The end result was I live in an area with no Chrysler employee presence and the dealer didn't have a clue on how to deal with the friends program. I went in as soon as the van showed up from the dealer they swapped with so I could see the invoice. When I saw the actual PP price ($27780, as tedebear said), I explained the program again, the saleperson checked it out, and down the price went.

    At closing time I almost had to beg them to make me sign the Friends program form, and even had to point out that they didn't charge me the $75 fee (they ended up not bothering with the fee, and ended up finally getting the right friends form after first giving the employee purchase program form to sign).

    I also asked the salesperson to go into DealerConnect and check all possible incentives that were available. He found a $750 minivan loyalty incentive that seems to be out there and nobody knew about. I got the idea to ask because I found this via searching on Google:

    http://carolinadodgedealers.com/images/Our%20Time%20Magazine%20Promo.pdf

    Go figure.

    So, final numbers:

    2008 Grand Caravan SXT, 25L in Sunburst Orange

    MSRP: $30,140
    Friends Price: $27780
    Customer Cash: $2500
    Lease Cash: $1000
    Regional Incentive: $500
    Minivan Loyalty: $750

    Final price: $23,030
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    Wow, I'd say you got one heck of a good deal.

    I'm surprised that the dealer didn't know much about the Friends program - it's a rather popular discount. And you don't have to live in an area with Chrysler employees. You just have to know someone who knows someone who has a friend who works for Chrysler, etc.

    The employee is supposed to get a control number for you and then you take that to the dealer. They apparently waived the employee participation part of the procedure.

    Anyway, you saved over $7,000 off the MSRP after all rebates and incentives. Not bad.
  • snoopy71snoopy71 Posts: 32
    I posted this inquiry a few months ago when I wasn't 100% sure that we were getting a GC or a T&C, so I'll ask again...

    Wife & I have twins on the way (in addition to our 3-yr old) so we need to bite the bullet and get a minivan. We're going to get a Caravan or a T&C sometime in June. Money will be real tight since wife will be quitting work to stay home, hence us going down to one income, so if anyone has a friends code for 2008, then I would reeeeeeally appreciate it. .... I'll even put you on my Christmas card list!! ;)

    e-mail me here at carspace and let me know....
  • danaclingdanacling Posts: 9
    "I ended up paying 25,449.42 ..." by scoutll

    scoutll, how did you do it? I have been searching far and wide trying to get that exact same configuration for that price, talked to many different dealers, cash in hand, and nobody has yet to come down to that price.
    Do you think you could contact the salesman and see if he would give me a similar(or exact deal) knowing I would be travelling from Houston, Texas where I live to pick it up? (And remind him the only reason I would do this is because I found your post, otherwise I never would have known they even existed as I have never even been close to North Dakota before?) Am I crazy for thinking this since gas prices and travel now are extremely expensive?
  • scoutllscoutll Posts: 40
    Their webpage is www.minotchrysler.com and the salesman was Terry K. I'd like to say it was due to my outstanding negotiating prowess, but honestly, it was a combination of timing, incentives and just plain the right vehicle at the right time.
    Mine had been in stock on the showroom floor for a couple months and they were willing to deal. The longer one sits on the lot, the lower they go. Folks around here don't seem to like leather that much, so the ones with leather go last. When I bought the GC, I had the choice between it and a T&C Signature that was pretty much identical for a little more. The only real difference was the Dodge has automatic climate control and the Chrysler didn't, but had remote start. It had also been sitting on the lot for a couple months.

    If you go to the web page you will see that the prices for the vehicles in stock are pretty good to start with. Not a big inventory like you may be used to in Houston, only about 25 mini's any given time and they only sell a a hundred or so vehicles a month (population of the entire quarter of the state where Minot is, is only about 75,000 or so).. As you will see when you go on the page, right now they have a SXT with the 25L package with a 29000 > sticker listed for 23999, Uunfortunately, no dual DVD on that one though, but they have several with DVD's with 31,000 or so window stickers starting at 25-26000. They have a better selection of T&C right now, a couple of 33-34000 signatures for around 28000. As far as the gas prices go, it may be expensivew..., but what a good way to break it in, huh?
  • danaclingdanacling Posts: 9
    Thanks scoutll,
    I am going to look at their webpage right now. Oh, it would be a GREAT way to break it in ;-) , your'e right! Not to mention, I have always dreamed of visiting places like North Dakota, what a great way to justify it.
    Down here in Houston, that's about right, about 20-25 minivans on average at the dealer. The only difference is there are many dealerships around here. I was hoping competition would help me find one I could afford, but I hate being cornered in the salesman's office. I try to do my communication through phone and emails, maybe that's why I'm getting nowhere.
    From what I've seen around here, you got a really awesome deal!!!
    I have to ask though, why don't many people around there like leather? I thought hotter climates like Houston would like leather less.
  • scoutllscoutll Posts: 40
    REALLY COLD when it's -40. The heated seats help a lot, but most prople don't think of that.
  • tammigirltammigirl Posts: 1
    Now that we're at the end of May I'm wondering what loyalty programs or other rebates/incentives are still in place. We're pretty much decided on another Grand Caravan. We qualify for supplier pricing. The lady who gave me the control number for supplier pricing today told me we still qualify for any rebates and incentives. She knew of the $2500 rebate and another $500 rebate which goes to or through June 2nd. She said another special starts then, but she didn't know what it was.

    Does anyone know what that June 2nd special is? Or if there is a loyalty discount/rebate? (We currently own two Grand Caravans,) I don't want to miss out on anything.

    Thanks in advance for your help. :)
  • tedebeartedebear Posts: 832
    To check current rebates you can visit the Dodge website and click on Shopping Tools > Current Incentives.

    Either that or call the Rebate Hotline at (800) 227-0757. You might try them both and see if you get the same information.
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